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We used to have steam-powered cars. What happened to them — and will they come back?
FreeThink ^ | April 9, 2023 | By Matt Benoit

Posted on 04/10/2023 10:56:50 AM PDT by Red Badger

Steam cars hit the U.S. market in the 1890s but were largely extinct by the 1930s. Will technology bring them back?

Credit: Huw Williams (Huwmanbeing) / Wikipedia / Public Domain

Imagine going out to your garage or driveway to get into your car. But instead of keys to get it started, you’ll be using matches or a blowtorch, because your car has a pilot light. For those who owned steam-powered automobiles in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, this was a daily reality. Before Henry Ford’s Model T revolutionized the affordability of internal combustion engines for Americans, steam-powered vehicles had their day in the sun.

These cars, though inconvenient by modern standards, produced less pollution than their gas-driven counterparts, set world land speed records, and were owned by the likes of Howard Hughes. So what happened to them?

The golden age of steam cars Steam engines work by means of external combustion, meaning fuel is combusted outside the engine to heat water and create steam, which is then transferred to the engine’s pistons, which move rods and cranks that transfer power to axles and wheels. Jay Leno, the late night comedian and famous car enthusiast who owns a 1925 Doble E-20 Steam Car once owned by Howard Hughes, said steam power so efficiently produced torque that it was referred to as “the hand of God.”

By the time commercially available steam cars hit U.S. markets in the 1890s, the world was already well-acquainted with steam engines: They propelled powerful locomotives and passenger boats across the globe.

From around 1900 until shortly after World War I, steam was a popular choice of automobile. Steam cars were less dangerous than gasoline engines that required strenuous hand-cranking to start and had further range than early electric cars. They were also very low-emission compared to early internal combustion engines, more reliable, and often quieter. American manufacturers were plentiful: Locomobile, Baldwin, Stanley, White, and Doble, among others.

The steam car also had sheer speed: many early Stanley models could travel 75 mph (121 kph), and some could go much faster.

In January 1906, a Stanley-built steam car showed up on the sandy beaches of Ormond Beach, Florida. Driven by Fred Marriott, the two-cylinder, 50-horsepower vehicle set a world land speed record of 127.66 mph (205 kph) over a one-mile (1.6-km) course. Despite having less horsepower, the car’s time was at least a full second quicker than any of the gas-powered record attempts for the same distance.

Running out of steam Steam cars had their drawbacks, though. Drivers had to have a fair amount of attention on steam pressures and other gauges that diverted their attention from the simple act of driving. The dependence on boilers (and the water inside them) made the cars quite heavy, and the entire process of starting one (lighting a pilot and waiting 20 to 30 minutes to properly create steam for motion) wasn’t very convenient.

The 1899 Baldwin Steamer, for instance, took 20 minutes to get started, and its boiler needed refilling about every 20 miles. The boiler was also located under the driver’s seat, creating potentially dangerous issues if improperly maintained. As the 1920s roared along, steam cars saw some technological advancements, resulting in shortened starting times and less complexity on the driver’s part.

But as time progressed, the cost-effectiveness and convenience of gas spelled the end of commercial steam cars. Assembly line production of modern cars made gas-powered vehicles cheaper, and electric starters made hand cranking a thing of the past.

Steam car companies either adapted or died. Locomobile switched to internal combustion, as did White. Stanley went out of business in 1924, while Doble ceased production by 1931 after stock fraud allegations badly damaged its namesake’s reputation.

Picking up steam? The April 1957 issue of Road & Track asked the question: Is steam coming back? On its cover that month was the Paxton Phoenix, a rear-engine coupe prototype for which several engine packages were considered. One of them was a Doble-designed steam engine that was even tested on a dynamometer. While it was hoped this car might revive the steam dream, the project was abandoned due to cost concerns in 1954, and the car never saw production.

During the 1950s and 1960s, an engine company occasionally offered steam engine conversions for production cars, and interest was also piqued in the 1970s due to air pollution increases and energy crises. The California Highway Patrol even investigated using steam-powered patrol cars in 1969. That same year, General Motors revealed two experimental steam cars based off a converted Chevrolet Chevelle and Pontiac Grand Prix, but they were just that: experiments.

Bill Lear, the man who founded LearJet, also dabbled with both street and race cars utilizing a steam turbine in the late 1960s, but nothing much came of it. In the end, no commercial car or engine manufacturer has produced steam-driven vehicles for the general public since they fell out of favor around a century ago.

In 2008, Popular Science covered the tinkering exploits of Florida boat engineer and inventor Harry Schoell, who proposed a reinvented steam engine called “The Cyclone Green Revolution Engine.”

Schoell’s engine uses superheated steam, which makes it behave more like a liquid, helping it convert about 20% more energy into torque compared to an internal combustion engine. Despite interest from lawn mower companies and others, the engine doesn’t appear to have been considered for any legitimate road-driven purposes.

One area where steam-drive still has novelty, however, is in the breaking of world land speed records. On August 25, 2009, the 1906 steam car speed record was officially broken by the British-built Inspiration — a 25-foot-long, 12-boiler vehicle that weighs three metric tons and looks kind of like the Batmobile.

Made from a combination of carbon fiber, aluminum, and steel, the car ran an average speed of 139.843 mph (225 kph) at Edwards Air Force Base in California’s Mojave Desert. On its second run (records require the average of two runs over one mile), it reached a top speed of 151 mph (243 kph).

Today, most steam cars can be found in the collections of car collectors like Leno, or in museums like Tacoma, Washington’s LeMay Museum. They are reminders of a different time in American automotive history. Only time and technology will tell if their vogue is ever revived.



TOPICS: Business/Economy; History; Outdoors; Travel
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To: Yo-Yo

He should convert it to natural gas.............


21 posted on 04/10/2023 11:14:35 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger

No.


22 posted on 04/10/2023 11:14:59 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Red Badger

Yeah, let’s operate on live steam. Great idea! What could possibly go wrong?


23 posted on 04/10/2023 11:15:08 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: 4yearlurker

That was probably producer gas, which is a viable way to use many fuels. Unlike furnace combustion of wood, coal etc a producer gas system uses smaller amounts of airflow and thus produces less smoke while ash is more easily capured, not going up the flue (which actually runs through the engine for its fuel).


24 posted on 04/10/2023 11:15:34 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Red Badger
Big Rug put them out of business.


25 posted on 04/10/2023 11:15:56 AM PDT by x
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To: MeganC

And poop in he streets. Leftists won’t tolerate that.


26 posted on 04/10/2023 11:16:44 AM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: Red Badger

Flash boiler apparently was the best. It was by Doble. I’m sure it had its downfalls.

I would love to have steam. It isseriously powerful. But it is hard to get steam up. Hence why steam is basically only used for huge plants that are best to run constantly. Locomotives had to be up and running almost constantly and hence required more maintenance.

So now, steam is still awesome for running power plants. Those you don’t need to stop as we’d rather have continuous power in our networks. So itis good ROI

Cars are a big challenge because we don’t want them running all the time. And steam head takes to long to build. Not instantaneous like ICE or a charged EV


27 posted on 04/10/2023 11:17:21 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMV.)
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To: Organic Panic

And the subtle fragrance of dead fish wafting on the summer breeze...........


28 posted on 04/10/2023 11:18:08 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger

No. Orville was all about corn, in high school. This guy was all about weed. One winter, his basement flooded, and all of the pot seeds in his shag carpeting sprouted. The ‘70s were great.


29 posted on 04/10/2023 11:18:53 AM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: gundog

“And poop in he streets. Leftists won’t tolerate that.”

I disagree. Poop in the streets is common in San Francisco.


30 posted on 04/10/2023 11:18:53 AM PDT by CFIIIMEIATP737
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To: AnalogReigns
We still rely on steam engines....in a turbine form, to push our nuclear ships and subs. If their systems could be miniaturized....

They can. They still have the problem of taking time to build up a head of steam. (That expression actually means something).

We use gas turbine engines to power ships, airplanes, and tanks. They take a little longer to start than piston engines, but the difference isn't nearly as great.

31 posted on 04/10/2023 11:19:22 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Red Badger
This happened to them...

The internal combustion engine... As long as you tune it up every now and change the oil on a regular basis... It will last forever!

32 posted on 04/10/2023 11:20:32 AM PDT by jerod (Nazi's were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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To: DesertRhino
Yeah, let’s operate on live steam. Great idea! What could possibly go wrong?

Yeah, let's operate on a flimsy tank of highly flammable liquid hydrocarbon. Great idea! What could possibly go wrong?

33 posted on 04/10/2023 11:20:37 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Red Badger
I would point out that steam powered vehicles require an additional change of state to produce the expanding steam for motive power reducing efficiency.

Gasoline, diesel, or flammable gas powered internal combustion engines are far more efficient.

34 posted on 04/10/2023 11:21:41 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: lee martell

No that was ICE. Know that thing on the engine called crankshaft? Guess why. You turned that yourself. Usually the front of the car but wherever the engine was.

Kettering’s ignition changed that so electricity turned the crankshaft.


35 posted on 04/10/2023 11:22:15 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMV.)
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To: Red Badger

My dad professionally restored high end cars. He had a Doble steam car in the shop for awhile. The car belonged to Bill Harrah and dad was doing some paint and bodywork on it. I remember it being a very large and beautiful car.


36 posted on 04/10/2023 11:22:23 AM PDT by wjcsux (On 3/14/1883 Karl Marx gave humanity his best gift, he died. )
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To: Red Badger

Beautiful cars!

From a time long past....


37 posted on 04/10/2023 11:23:08 AM PDT by saleman
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To: gundog

How did he explain that to his mom?.............🤔


38 posted on 04/10/2023 11:23:57 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: gundog
Back in HS, a friend used to wonder about the possibility of a microwave heat/steam engine combination.

It would almost certainly be more efficient just to use the electricity used to create the microwave energy to drive the wheels. Was he going to use batteries to power the microwave? If he was going to use the steam to power a generator and to drive the vehicle, he would have a problem patenting it, since U.S. law does not allow patent protection for perpetual motion machines.

39 posted on 04/10/2023 11:24:14 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit.)
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To: joshua c

Depends. I don’t know what the cars used. Fuel is anything that can heat up water to change state. Anything.


40 posted on 04/10/2023 11:24:17 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMV.)
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