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A Republican Spending Problem Will the House be willing to cut programs that benefit G.O.P. voters?
New York Times ^ | March 27, 2023 | David Leonhardt

Posted on 03/27/2023 7:38:36 AM PDT by Reily

As congressional Republicans prepare for a budget showdown later this year with President Biden, they say that they will insist on large cuts to federal spending. So far, though, they have left out some pretty important details: what those cuts might be. Republicans have been more willing to talk about what they won’t cut. Party leaders have promised not to touch Medicare and Social Security. Republicans generally oppose reductions in military spending and veterans’ benefits. And neither party can do anything about interest payments on the debt that the government has already accumulated. Combined, these categories make up almost two-thirds of federal government spending.

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KEYWORDS: economy; medicare; politics; socialsecurity
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Saw this in the NYT today. Interesting discussion about how today's Republicans in Congress are more likely to represent older, less affluent constituents back home who rely on Federal social support networks (such as Medicaid and food stamps) than are their Democrat colleagues in the House. If you won't touch the third-rail of Social Security and Medicare, and want to boost spending on the military and IC, and have no control over interest payments on the debt (~66% of the total budget), and your constituents now rely on social service programs, then what will the Republicans propose cutting?
1 posted on 03/27/2023 7:38:36 AM PDT by Reily
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To: Reily

Department of Education
Department of Energy
FBI

Opportunities for savings.


2 posted on 03/27/2023 7:41:35 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (“You want it one way, but it's the other way”)
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To: Reily
A Republican Spending Problem Will the House be willing to cut programs that benefit G.O.P. voters?

At some point they will not have a choice.


3 posted on 03/27/2023 7:43:21 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (ui)
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Department of Education Department of Energy FBI

Performative and about politics, not economics. Won't make the debt needle twitch.

4 posted on 03/27/2023 7:45:52 AM PDT by semimojo
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Ukraine Funding
NATO Funding
UN Funding
Any and all foreign spending
Department of Education
Any "Department of" Alphabet agencies
Congressional pay
Congressional benefits

I could keep going. Seems to me there is plenty to cut.

5 posted on 03/27/2023 7:51:40 AM PDT by dware (Americans prefer peaceful slavery over dangerous freedom)
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And the way the media is, the Republicans will be attacked for any proposals to cut any government spending.

If they propose to cut back the SNAP food stamp program , then the narrative will be that Republicans want children to starve.

If they wanted to cut back section 8 rental subsidies, then they will say Donald Trump and Republicans want people to be homeless.

If they want to cut back federal aid to education, then the charge will be the Republicans do not want to support education, and want to cut extracurricular activities in schools Etc.

Just saying any Republican efforts to try to trim back federal spending, will be said to be in attack on poor people ,minorities, kids in school, etc.


6 posted on 03/27/2023 7:53:57 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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Hell, the Dung Beetles cut programs that “benefit G.O.P. voters” all the time. They still continue to get elected.


7 posted on 03/27/2023 7:58:13 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer ("Gun violence" ISN'T the problem idiots. People violence is the problem. Embrace the suck!)
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To: Reily
The best way to get things right is to raise more revenue and hold spending at current levels. Income taxes don't work because the higher the effective rate the less revenue is collected. So the only tax that is fair and has benefits to the working class is an import tariff. I would start with a 20% import tariff that goes directly to fund SS and MC.
8 posted on 03/27/2023 7:58:47 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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Taxpayers money going to:
NPR and any news source taking tax money.
Frivolous research grants
Closing research labs in foreign countries
Housing and feeding illegal aliens
Closing down the department of education
Firing anyone in a government bureaucracy that’s makes laws and regulations that our congress doesn’t vote on.
Cleaning out the FBI hierarchy.
Cleaning out the IRS hierarchy.
Cleaning out the EPA and the CDC and giving the power back to the states.


9 posted on 03/27/2023 8:00:28 AM PDT by lucky american (Progressives are attacking our rights and y'all will sit there and take it.)
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I hate to agree with anything the New York Times says, but this is the way it’s going to go:

Biden: Here’s my bloated budget.
GOP House: We reject all of your wild spending!

Biden: There’s plenty of pork in it for you.
GOP House: Deal! Just let us complain a little first.

Same as it ever was…as we drive right off the cliff.


10 posted on 03/27/2023 8:07:02 AM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Indeed 100% on the spot.


11 posted on 03/27/2023 8:14:08 AM PDT by Vaduz (....)
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I would propose cutting democrats. Otherwise, you fall into their trap. The democrat Senate and Biden are not going to allow any cuts.


12 posted on 03/27/2023 8:20:27 AM PDT by dforest (All of America has derailed.)
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There are lots of areas they can cut. DOJ/FBI/ATF/, DOE, IRS, etc... Even the DOD could easily see cuts in none personnel and weapons spending. The DOD has a lot of programs that are eligible for cuts. They always argue that their programs only cost a million dollars per year a drop in the bucket in a hundreds of billion dollar budgets. Cuts have to start somewhere.

. Cuts were made in the last VA budget. They were indirect cuts. It was done by revamping war time policies on disabilities. You had 20 something year old military members (no combat at all, some not even finishing initial enlistment), getting high percentage VA ratings for disability. The system was built for war time so all you needed was a good representative or attorney and you get disability cash from the VA for life. That is not to say some did not deserve it, but they were in the minority. By changing the guidelines, people still rated free treatment/medication for life, but not cash for every issue.

The problem with this is they cut costs but then spend the money elsewhere vice removing it from the budget. A good example are base access stickers. By eliminating the cost of the stickers and the civilian employees issuing the stickers, across the services the DOD save millions, they just spent it elsewhere vice removing that amount from the budgets. If you cut the budgets of all the federal three letter agencies you will be surprised at how well they continue to do their jobs with less money.

I would fight for a 10% across the board cut for ALL federal agencies. It can be done without degrading the services the agencies provide.

13 posted on 03/27/2023 8:22:09 AM PDT by OldGoatCPO (No Caitiff Choir of Angels will sing for me. )
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The New York Times whores for democrats... anything they write is designed to damage Republicans and kiss the butts of democrats.


14 posted on 03/27/2023 8:23:55 AM PDT by GOPJ (When Morning Joe's sycophants say "My Democracy" it sounds like Gollum saying "my precious")
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To: ClearCase_guy

insignificant savings


15 posted on 03/27/2023 8:29:08 AM PDT by Reily (!!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

insignificant savings with have-to-pay & SS\Medicare 66% of the budget


16 posted on 03/27/2023 8:31:55 AM PDT by Reily (!!)
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To: lucky american

insignificant savings with have-to-pay interest on debt & SS\Medicare 66% of the budget!


17 posted on 03/27/2023 8:34:48 AM PDT by Reily (!!)
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1% actual CUT (not decrease in the increase) across the board, per year, combined with MAGA to grow the economy.
Eliminate non-constitutional goobermint appendages-
Return most taxing, and direct powers to The States, where it belongs.
Stop the endless wars and Bushies Nation Building. Get out of other folks business.

Follow Silent Cal - he did it.

The mess didn’t happen in one year, and it won’t be solved in one year.


18 posted on 03/27/2023 8:43:49 AM PDT by Macoozie (Handcuffs and Orange Jumpsuits)
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End 90% of government control and programs and this will actually help ALL hard working voters!


19 posted on 03/27/2023 8:46:20 AM PDT by mikelets456
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To: Reily; All
Thank you for referencing that article Reily. Please note that the following critique is directed at NYT and GOP and not at you.

"A Republican Spending Problem Will the House be willing to cut programs that benefit G.O.P. voters?"


FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument

NYT is either clueless, or probably blatantly ignoring, that Congress cannot constitutionally justify most of the taxes that it makes people pay, most federal domestic policy based on state powers and state revenues that the corrupt, post-17th Amendment ratification feds steal from the states.

"Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States." —Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

In fact, the congressional record shows that Rep. John Bingham, the main author of Section 1 of the 14th Amendment, had clarified that the drafters of the Constitution had trusted the states, not the feds, with the care of the people.

”Simply this, that the care of the property, the liberty, and the life of the citizen, under the solemn sanction of an oath imposed by your Constitution, is in the States and not in the federal government [emphases added]. I have sought to effect no change in that respect in the Constitution of the country.” —John Bingham, Congressional. Globe. 1866, page 1292 (see top half of third column)

Patriots, the bottom line is this imo. What is your threshold of “pain” for peacefully stopping unconstitutionally big state and federal governments controlled by bully, constitutionally undefined political parties, from oppressing the people under their boots?

The inevitable remedy for ongoing, post-17A ratification, corrupt political party treason (imo)...

All MAGA patriots need to wake up their RINO federal and state lawmakers by making the following clear to them.

If they don’t publicly support either a resolution, or a Constitutional Convention, to effectively "secede" ALL the states from the unconstitutionally big federal government by amending the Constitution to repeal the 16th (direct taxes) and 17th (popular voting for federal senators) Amendments (16&17A), doing so before the primary elections in 2024, that YOU will primary them.

If the proposed amendment was limited strictly to repealing 16&17A, relatively little or ideally no discussion would be needed before ratification of the amendment imo.

With 16&17A out of the way, my hope is that Trump 47 becomes the FIRST president of a truly constitutionally limited power federal government.

In the meanwhile, I'm not holding my breath for significant MAGA legislation to appear in the first 100 days of new term for what may still prove to be another RINO-controlled House.

In other words, primarying RINOs in 2022 was just for practice. Trump will hopefully do another round of primarying for 2024 elections.

20 posted on 03/27/2023 8:50:36 AM PDT by Amendment10
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