Something like Newton's Cradle:
Posted on 02/23/2023 11:11:30 PM PST by kjam22
Prayers please. Barefoot and in shorts….. I went out to pickup in the garage to retrieve my I pad . Decided to get handgun also….out of the console between seats. Leaned in and got them. Leaning back out and dropped the gun. Landed on the concrete in garage. One in the chamber, not cocked, on safety, and in a holster. It discharged into my left leg about half way between ankle and knee. Broke both bones. I mean completely. Did not hit an artery.
Gun was a 90’s model Springfield 45. It is a P9 series, double/single action, but chambered in 45 caliber. Im in hospital. Suppose to do surgery tomorrow.
So I can cross shooting myself with my own 45 off my bucket list.
Yeah, it hurt bad. Legion of police showed up when wife called 911. Rough ambulance ride to the hospital. I dont recommend this.
Appreciate all prayers. Thank you
Omigosh! I will say prayers for your swift recovery and offer up my total sympathy for the horrible accident that occurred to you.
As someone pointed out up above, the P9 is based on a gun that had the usual modern feature of having a firing pin block - a linkage that holds the pin immobile unless the weapon is cocked with the safety off. It’s surprisingly complex to do one of these right sometimes - this safety system was troublesome and unreliable in the parent design and apparently Springfield decided to remove the system entirely.
If you don’t have a firing pin block, what happens on an uncocked gun with an exposed hammer is that it hits the ground hammer first. The uncocked hammer is in contact with the back of the firing pin. The energy of the hammer’s collision with the ground is transmitted to the firing pin, which flies forward. That hits the primer and sometimes it’s enough to set the cartridge off.
The 1911 isn’t immune to this problem as the original design does not allow the safety to be engaged with the hammer down and it had no other firing pin safety. Colt introduced the ‘Series 80’ design that added a firing pin safety - which changed the trigger feel of the design - and most of the industry has followed suit. The ‘Series 70’ and earlier designs without a firing pin safety are still offered but they are increasingly relegated to specialist uses in terms of market share.
Obviously not in your head.
Almost went XD, liked DA/SA, but ended up going Sig stiker. Wonder how it would do if I dropped it.
Sig recently had some drop safe problems of their own on their brand new striker-fired P320 design: https://www.concealedcarry.com/firearms-ownership/is-the-sig-sauer-p320-handgun-safe-to-carry-or-can-it-fire-on-its-own/
I went with the XD in .45 as a modernization transition from my old Browning High Powers - while the back of the firing pin sticks out of the slide as a cocking indicator, it’s got a beefy firing pin block that means you can use the back of the firing pin as a hammer and it won’t care - or discharge.
Prayers but mostly thankful. While painful, it could have been much worse. Count your blessings and I bet one day you will have quite the story to share with grandkids.
In fact, had I been the responding 911 Paramedic, I would have given ya at least 150-micrograms of Fentanyl [provided that ya'll got no opioid / opiate allergies]
to get that pain under control Before You would even get lifted off the ground
and onto the stretcher.
Most 911 EMS pain treatment protocols state that the pain must be managed/ reduced by analgesic administration
before moving the patient by any mechanical methods.
Something like Newton's Cradle:
Yup. It could be said that poor OP got shot by Sir Isaac Newton, the deadliest SOB in space. :P
We need tougher ipad laws.
Praying!
Or has been shown to be a bad design/bad adaptation of the design - Springfield never recalled the P9. The early P9s literally are just Witnesses with the firing pin safety removed. They didn’t just leave it there; in fact with later P9 production, they doubled down and even removed the provisions to fit the firing pin safety system back to the gun. See the last post in this thread: https://czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=29342.0
It’s never a bad idea to periodically review current knowledge about equipment your life depends upon for problems, issues or urgent service needs, be it a pistol, a rifle, personal protective gear like jackets and helmets or anything else. As life has gotten more complex, it’s become increasingly obvious that you should take nothing for granted and regularly check for updates.
So, it was YOU! YOU were the kid flush with all the jokes right after I had my appendix out!
I have only one thing to say to you:
Thanks. You kept me in stitches.
You got it.
Prayers up for an EXCELLENT surgery and recovery.
[And here you thought ammo was pricey BEFORE you fired it.]
Oh man, that sucks! Prayers up for your speedy recovery.
Ah, yeah.
That’s a fair point on pricyness.
May that headache be kept to a minimum.
Prayers for your recovery kjam22.
Prayers up.
Your mention of the police tell me that you don’t live in Texas. smile.
May you get good results in the surgery and recover quickly.
May your wife not be that hard on you for the accident.
This pistol looks like a CZ75 clone which I thought had high marks. Thanks for the details.
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