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'Died suddenly' posts twist tragedies to push vaccine lies
AP, WXYZ Detroit ^ | February, 4th, 2023 | ALI SWENSON and ANGELO FICHERA

Posted on 02/06/2023 7:09:00 AM PST by David Chase

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To: VideoDoctor

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Now you hate rescue workers?
Now First Responders are on your poo list?

Think about this convo when you press the magical numbers 911 because youā€™re in dire straits.

Because one day you will or if ya canā€™t, someone will for you. šŸ¤·šŸ»


161 posted on 02/09/2023 3:17:46 AM PST by David Chase
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To: AndyTheBear

I donā€™t recall speaking about Athletes at all.

I was speaking in general. But apparently you are bored or obsessed or both and demand to have a debate as you add twist and turns into the conversation.

Only a totally bias blinded person would keep raging when someone says we need data, reliable data to determine what exactly has happened.

Dudes on SubStack and Twitter are not what any reasonable person would call accurate data.

Now go ahead and reply with something else I never said or brought up.

Do carry on.


162 posted on 02/09/2023 3:24:41 AM PST by David Chase
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To: David Chase
Oh, geez David. You presented a piece about people talking about sudden deaths as if it were BS, and then you present your personal commentary which I'll provide:

It is true that when the facts come out that someone who died young or ā€œsuddenlyā€ wasnā€™t even vaccinated and/or died from known medical issues the Vax Death Group is so quiet, and not even embarrassed.

Withholding excitement from another assumed Vax death would be classy.

As Iā€™ve said before, throughout my career as a Paramedic for Detroit Fire/EMS, sadly Iā€™ve pumped on the chest of people of All ages and pushed drugs and defibrillated for various reasons trauma/medical.

Does lead readers of your post to conclude that you have respect & admiration for these "vaccines", and nothing but utter disdain for those who question if the death had something to do with the "vaccines".

Furthermore, you carried on about VAERS when I reference it to provide the death count it contains, accusing me of being a sucker for believing it. Of course, that was a ridiculous accusation on your part since I was arguing that we had been lied to about these "vaccines" even from the medical industry. I even pointed out that it was fraught with inaccuracy & that it was woefully underreporting adverse events, confirmed by a Harvard study, right from the beginning.

So what exactly was the point of your post , if it wasn't what, according to you now, I so grossly misinterpreted it as? Because you sure as heck offered no words of agreement when I stated that adverse events were real, numerous, and included deaths, and that it becomes a natural reaction that people question the death of someone under 10 years of age who dies suddenly, before even reading a whole article to find out the child had medical issues all along. Sadly, many articles do not even bring up those facts, so even if someone reads the article & afterwards leaves that same questioning remark, you mock those people as well.

Besides that, even if the child had existing medical issues, it still doesn't rule out that fact that the "vaccines" may have pushed the child over the edge, robbing her of who knows how many years of life.

No brother David, it was your choice to post this article that chose to be critical of those who question "vaccine" deaths and paint them as some sort of uncaring lunatic for doing so.

Just in case you are totally unaware, as you appear to be, the press has created a reputation, and rightfully so, of gaslighting the public, and people have had enough of it and are fighting back. You can either assist the the press with their gaslighting, as you did here, or you can join the people who are tired of it and are demanding honest, not biased, reporting from them.

Your choice David. I hope you choose better than you did this time.

163 posted on 02/09/2023 5:15:14 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: Robert DeLong

ā€œSuckerā€ā€¦ā€¦..I donā€™t even use that word.

You are stuck in a whirlpool and canā€™t come out of it.

Robert DeLong et al.:
The CDC lies and are guilty of helping Big Pharma and killing people.

Robert DeLong et al.:
The Self Reporting VAERS website thatā€™s exclusively run by the CDC is accurate.

Iā€™m pointing that out.

Thatā€™s why I keep saying we need good accurate data.

Apparently you and others are against real data. I wonder why.

Indeed, you double down that all deaths are a result of the Vax.

You either think or believe cardiac problems never existed before Dec. 2020.

Do you think Myocarditis is a new thing and never occurred before?
A condition thatā€™s easily treated with anti inflammatories from home.

When present with historical stats from pre 2020ā€¦ā€¦.the defense of your theories are, ā€œYeah but thereā€™s more this year.ā€
Ignoring the fact that from year to year sometimes thereā€™s more or less incidents of various diseases and illness.

The most interesting, even an amusing claimed ā€œvax reactionā€ was Bellā€™s Palsy.

Again, most of the rabid anti Vaxxers that never got vaccinated nor ever will and donā€™t have 2 minutes of medical training actually thought that was New Disease.

They had no idea that around 48,000 cases of Bellā€™s Palsy occur normally every year, pre Covid 19. In fact, the cases in 2021 were LOWER THAN AVERAGE.

Why did they not know this? Because they never looked for it.
Although you and others claim to be some kind of super researchers, that data, those stats were never cited. Why?

Oh, I had Bellā€™s Palsy in the Fall of 2018. Must have been the Vax, eh?

I donā€™t know if youā€™re afraid or dismayed to be wrong or if youā€™re truly hypnotized by the likes of Kirsch or Peters. Which is why you fight and debate this non stop at every thread that you can.

I donā€™t understand why putting Covid away is something not desired.
But letting Covid and the Vax continue to rule over your lives instead.
Much like the Left. Some there donā€™t want Covid to die, for different reasons than you, but still something in common.

By saying to hold on until the dead are cold and autopsied.
By pointing out the disgust of using dead children to advance a narrative even before any information is known.
You see that as ā€œRespect and Admirationā€ for the Covid vaccine???

Wow, no wonder you canā€™t even stumble over real facts.

Respect for the dead, and the families, and most of all the parents of children that died.

What did your brain translate that into?
Iā€™m pro nuclear war now too?


164 posted on 02/09/2023 6:44:18 AM PST by David Chase
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To: David Chase
ā€œSuckerā€ā€¦ā€¦..I donā€™t even use that word.

Well, good for you, but that was your intent even if that was not the exact word you used. You are really grabbing for straws.

Robert DeLong et al.: The CDC lies and are guilty of helping Big Pharma and killing people.

Yeah, though I 'm not sure that is an exact quote or a paraphrase, and your point?

Robert DeLong et al.: The Self Reporting VAERS website thatā€™s exclusively run by the CDC is accurate.

Now I know that is not what I said at all. It is a creation of the CDC, and it is under the CDC's control. They don't make the entries, and never implied that they did. I most certainly did not say anything that you have attributed to me as being what I said. I have trashed VAERS right from the beginning. I made no insinuations that it was anything more than a worthless tool. In my ;later posts to you, I even emphasized that I mention VAERS only to point out to you that even VAERS lists 31,000 deaths. I also stated in that same response that I believe that number to be extremely low, and that the actual numbers are much higher.

That's it, you are a bold-faced liar & I won't carry on a conversation with someone who lies.

Looking back, I see that I wasn't the only one debating you regarding this article you posted. I'll give you the benefit of doubt that you are confusing me with someone else, but you still had the temerity to say these statements were made by me when they were not.

End of conversation David.

165 posted on 02/09/2023 7:11:57 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: Robert DeLong

June 2014.

https://www.newyorker.com/tech/annals-of-technology/death-on-the-basketball-court


166 posted on 02/09/2023 7:17:13 AM PST by David Chase
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To: David Chase
David, I already admitted that there were these deaths before the "vaccines" were introduced, but I also stated that the current numbers are much higher, and that there is no disputing that fact.

So, your lame attempt here is just more obfuscation being perpetrated by you. Furthermore, I said that these deaths were caused by underlying medical issues that remained hidden until these athletes exerted more physical demands upon themselves than they would normally do otherwise.

The difference in numbers between pre "vaccine" deaths & post "vaccine" deaths, are the "vaccines", which have been confirmed that the "vaccines" do cause heart damage.

Quit with your cover attempts for "vaccines". If you are doing this for Trump, it's not necessary. He has nothing to do with these "vaccine" issues. The professional medical community are responsible, because they failed to do what was needed, examine the documents of their trials. They are as corrupt as the rest.

Now grow up and quit playing these childish games you continue to play.

I will not respond to any further communication from you.

167 posted on 02/09/2023 7:54:04 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: David Chase
Sir, my very first post you responded to started as:

Heart issues from the jab are indeed not the cause of every death of a young person or athlete.

I introduced the context of young athletic people dying 16 or 17 times more than before. You responded apparently ignoring this context talking about maybe its due to inactivity etc. The fact that you ignored the context does not mean the context is gone.

Evidence does not cease to exist nor does its change its nature simply because you have not acknowledged the evidence nor some part of its nature. Objecting to a conclusion by ignoring essential parts of a train of reasoning is fallacious.

If you don't want to argue with me quit making such bad objections and hold your peace. Do not put it on me when you make very silly objections to what I say and I get a bit short with you.

168 posted on 02/09/2023 8:06:15 AM PST by AndyTheBear
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To: David Chase
Let me add an addendum to my previous response, and that is, how do we know the the mRNA "vaccines" were the only "vaccines" that are responsible for the deaths pf athletes.

They have been administering Flu "vaccines" for many years now. If you listen to Dr. Judy Mikovits, she has been saying that these Flu vaccines are also tainted and dangerous, and that this is due to Tony Fauci. Fauci was all about making money, he could care less about people at all. The man needs to be brought up on charges of crimes against humanity. He's is guilty of that, and it goes way back to the AIDS drugs he helped create which were actually killing the victims, not helping them.

169 posted on 02/09/2023 8:22:38 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: David Chase
Let me add an addendum to my previous response, and that is, how do we know the the mRNA "vaccines" were the only "vaccines" that are responsible for the deaths pf athletes.

For years they have been administering Flu "vaccines" for many years now. If you listen to Dr. Judy Mikovits, she has been saying that these Flu vaccines are also tainted and dangerous, and that this is due to Tony Fauci. Fauci was all about making money, he could care less about people at all.

It goes all the way back to the AIDS drugs he created for AIDS victims that were killing these people, not helping them at all.

170 posted on 02/09/2023 8:24:25 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: David Chase

I was in the Dr’s office yesterday for anemia and low blood platelet count. The Dr suggested an iron infusion and also asked what I thought about a blood transfusion. I told her that I didn’t want one if I can’t know whether the donor had been vaccinated or not. Her reaction was that of someone who was entirely too familiar with that answer i.e., she gets that answer a lot. There is a THERE here, folks, and the government is pressuring the medical community and their agencies to cover it up.


171 posted on 02/09/2023 8:32:03 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: David Chase
JUST IN: Rand Paul Directly Confronts Top Biden Official On Funding Virus Studies In China
172 posted on 02/09/2023 1:32:15 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: David Chase
Now you hate rescue workers?

Now First Responders are on your poo list?

For God sake Chase... go plague someone else with your inane BULL$HIT!

You're very much like a "lost dog at the fairgrounds."

173 posted on 02/10/2023 11:09:27 AM PST by VideoDoctor
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To: David Chase

I been on this little blue ball more than six decades so far. Iā€™m here to tell you that the amount of cancer deaths, blood clots, sudden heart attacks and all around immunity has CHANGED and we can all see it. Say what you want about any individual case and itā€™s particulars, you will not gaslight me into denying what I see with my own eyes. Keep trying thoughā€¦. Since you seem so heavily invested.


174 posted on 02/10/2023 11:33:41 AM PST by ez ("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton)
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To: VideoDoctor

You should apologize.

First responders donā€™t care who or what you are. Theyā€™ll come to rescue you.
Iā€™d come to rescue if you need it.

Say youā€™re sorry.


175 posted on 02/10/2023 5:08:17 PM PST by David Chase
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