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Is this true? I've always done the opposite.
1 posted on 12/24/2022 4:20:36 PM PST by vespa300
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Sitting in a frosty vehicle is hard on me. So I’m warming it up and the environment and vehicle are just going to have to suck it up.


2 posted on 12/24/2022 4:23:01 PM PST by BipolarBob (The party never stops until someone calls the cops.)
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About 30 seconds until you hear the idle drop to normal. Then you’re good to go.


3 posted on 12/24/2022 4:23:19 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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Just use the remote start from inside the house.

(This does remind me that we sprung for the $95 engine block heater option in our F150. Hadn’t even thought of that.)


5 posted on 12/24/2022 4:25:27 PM PST by moovova ("The NEXT election is the most important election of our lifetimes!“ LOL...)
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The auto service company notes that idling your engine could damage it while minimizing the car's fuel efficiency, which is harmful to the environment due to fumes emitted from the engine that pollutes the air.

This is the real story. Don't let your car warm up because you'll pollute the air!

6 posted on 12/24/2022 4:26:11 PM PST by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024)
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Pfffft... no detail on what is supposedly damaged on the engine. This is total nonsense. The only thing the article mentions, several times, is pollution. So yeah, basically a eco-climate change propaganda piece disguised as harming your engine. Tell me, how exactly is a modern engine harmed by idling it to warm up?


10 posted on 12/24/2022 4:28:43 PM PST by Obadiah (Died suddenly: Obediently following the science to the grave.)
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I idle the car for at least 30-40 seconds to get the oil circulating, then I take it easy for the first mile or two until there’s some warm air coming from the heater.


12 posted on 12/24/2022 4:29:45 PM PST by HartleyMBaldwin
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Dang!
Been driving for 80 years the wrong way...


15 posted on 12/24/2022 4:31:47 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is the next Sam Adams when we so desperatly need him)
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..."which is harmful to the environment due to fumes emitted from the engine that pollutes the air"
18 posted on 12/24/2022 4:33:09 PM PST by granite (The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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oh well, it does then...


20 posted on 12/24/2022 4:34:01 PM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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I once had an old Ford LTD with a blue light on the instrument panel and the operator was not supposed to drive other than very gently until it went out.


21 posted on 12/24/2022 4:34:21 PM PST by Truth29
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I learned that years ago in Alaska. My husband doesn’t believe me.


23 posted on 12/24/2022 4:35:51 PM PST by MayflowerMadam
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This article is BS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It is never good to stress the engine before the oil warms up and the engine is being lubricated properly. When the engine is idling with no load then those stresses are at their minimum. This has been a known fact since the invention of the internal combustion engine. Now a bunch of know nothings with a political agenda are trying to redefine the known laws of science. It also not a good idea to drive around with ICE and frost on your windows. Scraping the windows damages the glass and does not clear them well. Modern ice scrapers break the first time you use them anyways. Cold drivers are also more likely to make mistakes as they shiver.


27 posted on 12/24/2022 4:37:09 PM PST by Revel
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That’s BS.
And just part of the “environmental concern” BS agenda at that.
Actually, once the engine starts and runs for a couple of minutes, it will actually heat up faster by driving it. Don’t hammer it when it’s cold, just drive it as one normally would.
But to let it warm up by sitting there doesn’t harm the engine. These pukes put that garbage out there to hide their “environmental concerns”....screw em...and oh, FJB too..


29 posted on 12/24/2022 4:38:17 PM PST by lgjhn23 ("On the 8th day, Satan created the progressive liberal to destroy all the good that God created...")
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There’s nothing damaged by a slow warming of the engine. Rapidly changing the temperature is where differences in the coefficient of thermal expansion may result in damage, say between aluminum heads on a cast iron block, Stainless steel bearings in aluminum casting housings, etc. Going slow in that expansion reduces stress on the material interfaces. If you get rapid thermal expansion combined with reaction forces introduced by vehicle operation of acceleration/deceleration, hills, turns, etc, you increase the probability of damage. How hard you drive the vehicle of course increases/decreases that probability.


33 posted on 12/24/2022 4:40:49 PM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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i’ll bet we can find thousands of OLD articles telling us to warm up the car first....


34 posted on 12/24/2022 4:40:59 PM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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“Firestone Complete Auto Care explains on its website that cars with modern fuel injection systems can be driven by simply starting the engine without the car warming up.”

Sounds like Firestone is still thinking they make Firestone 500 tires - the ones that they didn’t bother gluing the tread on.

Anyway, the purpose of warming up the engine gently has nothing to do with the carburetor (which, Firestone implies here, but they, to their credit, know that cars don’t have carburetors anymore) - but rather that the oil is VERY THINK and needs some time to get into its usual spots in the engine, to prevent melting of the bearings.


35 posted on 12/24/2022 4:41:14 PM PST by BobL
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let the engine warm up a few seconds before driving

That's not good advice at any time. Give it a minute or so at least. In the winter we've always let the car warm up before driving.

36 posted on 12/24/2022 4:42:56 PM PST by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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The damage is done when you put a load on the engine before the oil has warmed up enough to properly lubricate the main journal and connecting rod bearings.

Start the car, then clean off the windows. When the car drops from fast idle, or the temp needle moves off the low peg, take off.


38 posted on 12/24/2022 4:43:49 PM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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>> Several auto experts believe this may not be conducive to preserving the engine

Some say...

BS story


39 posted on 12/24/2022 4:43:51 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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I don't give a schit if it's polluting the air by idling my car.

Every commercial engine I ever operated had a minimum oil temperature requirement before putting a load on the engine. In other words, you have to leave them idling until they're sufficiently warm before operating them. That is done for longevity purposes. Now firestone is saying the exact opposite but offering no justification for it at all. I'll stick with what engine manufacturers say, not some climate change propaganda piece.

42 posted on 12/24/2022 4:46:47 PM PST by GaryCrow
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