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The Most Violent Medieval Inventions You Won't Believe Existed Fight Book
YouTube ^ | November 6, 2021 | Absolute History

Posted on 12/21/2022 8:03:30 AM PST by SunkenCiv

[snip] In 1459, a book was written that contained images so bizarre that even 500 years later their meaning is still shrouded in mystery. It depicts improbable medieval siege engines and machines of war. Figures an extraordinary apparatus and blood-thirsty jewels. Why was this manuscript written, and who could have unlocked its full potential? This book will reveal the secrets of a medieval age far more advanced than future generations could ever imagine. [/snip]
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0:29in 1459 a book was written that contained images so bizarre
0:34that even 500 years later their meaning is still shrouded in mystery
0:40it depicts improbable medieval siege engines and machines of war figures and extraordinary apparatus and
0:47bloodthirsty jewels but key information is missing from the manuscript
0:53and the author is displayed cryptically holding a broken chain why was this manuscript ever written
1:00and who could have unlocked its full potential this book will reveal the secrets of a
1:05medieval age far more advanced than future generations would ever imagine
1:13[Music]
1:25deep in the vaults of the royal library in denmark is a book over 500 years old
1:32its time-worn leather cover bears one simple inscription talhoffer
1:38the mysterious fightmaster of the middle ages this enigmatic book is written in
1:44swabian an ancient german dialect and contains 300 colour pages of images and
1:49text offering an astounding account of life in the middle ages
1:54[Music] this is talhoffer's actual 1459
2:00manuscript beautifully executed with colors as fresh as if it were painted yesterday and there's talhoffer himself
2:06in the center dictating to his scribe the coded imagery and text within this
2:12manuscript has the potential to dispel the very beliefs the modern world has about the medieval age
2:19was combat and warfare technology really as primitive as we imagined did knights act as chivalrously as depicted in
2:26victorian times and was the population as unsophisticated as history suggests
2:32this is an incredibly important document because it tells us so much about this mysterious world it's really a kind of
2:39box of secrets that we can open for the first time the royal library in
2:45denmark have allowed the manuscript to be filmed and a team of experts from around the world will investigate the
2:52mysterious images and text within by using cutting-edge computer graphics and attempting unorthodox fighting
2:58techniques it's actually making me sick to my stomach decoding the book's puzzling designs
3:04and constructing its enigmatic machines underwater now the team will test the
3:10methods and technologies in the manuscript and attempt to establish just how authentic talhoffer's depiction
3:18of the medieval age really was
3:24talhoff's fight book has laid dormant in copenhagen's royal library for over 200
3:29years but 500 years after it was written the manuscript has reemerged in the
3:35public eye with martial arts students worldwide seeking its medieval fighting
3:40techniques one fight master who has dedicated his life to learning the fighting stars of
3:46the middle ages is john clements clements is one of the world's leading
3:51experts in the field of medieval martial arts we know very little about talhoffer as a
3:56man about his life so he's a mystery in that regard but we do know he's a master
4:01of the art of arms that he's a knight that he is a teacher and instructor of
4:07nightly fighting arts talhafer has dedicated nearly half the
4:13manuscript to medieval combat and within these pages are numerous plates
4:19focusing on the violent and mysterious world of judicial jewels
4:26they are clearly identifiable by the marked area the combatants were forced to fight in
4:32many of the images in this manuscript are concerned with fighting in the judicial duel now the
4:38judicial duel was a curious institution when somebody had accused somebody of
4:44something and there were no witnesses there was no evidence then trial by combat was the way you found out who was
4:52telling the truth on the eighth plate of his fight book talhoffer describes why a person will be
4:59called forth for judicial battle murder treason heresy disloyalty
5:07betrayal falsehood or using a maiden or lady
5:13those that broke these laws would often be forced to face each other in judicial combat
5:20[Music]
5:31illustrated in talhoffer's manuscript is a bloody portrayal of the medieval population locked in these lawful
5:38battles violently dispatching their opponents with a deadly array of weaponry
5:43including one traditionally designed for defense that had been modified to kill
5:50aaron pineberg knows all too well the advantages of a shield against an enemy
5:56i'm a swat officer in appleton wisconsin i carry a ballistic shield in front of me as my primary duties
6:03that shield and this shield share a lot of common traits in that it can interfere with your vision with your
6:09ability to see your enemy if you can't see your enemy you can't kill him so it's important that when you use a
6:15shield you understand that there are times when you give up that protection or that defensive capability to see your
6:21opponent [ __ ] this huge spiked shield or pavus from
6:27talhoffer's manuscript is believed to have its origins in the 12th century where shields were regarded as an
6:34acceptable weapon in dueling for the common non-noble classes its cruel spikes and sight-like hooks
6:41are used to devastating effect in talhoffer's manuscript and john and aaron will test whether the shields
6:47could really be used as the fightmasters claimed we're going to try these weapons out
6:53we're going to see how they move how they perform how the plates from tauhoffer hold up to
6:59physically reconstructing it and applying what we know of the fighting arts that he displays
7:10to ensure any chance of victory in a judicial shield battle two techniques outlined in talhoffer's
7:16manuscript hooking with the shield to expose the opponent and planting the base firmly in
7:21the ground to create a more effective barrier would have to be utilized i can see how
7:28that's what you'd be doing and look at how quickly they lock up yeah i saw that i thought i can lock and pull
7:36planting that shield and then working around it using it as a barrier between me and the enemy is incredibly fast you
7:43see the holes because the holes are created between the two junction of the shields such was the shield's effectiveness as
7:50an offensive weapon that a sword was not even required to dispatch an enemy and leave the judicial
7:57ring victorious i can say we clearly could see that the
8:03the techniques from talhoffer's manuscript absolutely apply under the over the displacing the warding the
8:11hooking the thrusting all the footwork all the motions they're all there this is a vicious ugly type of fighting
8:17and i have a lot more respect for it although unusual to see combatants
8:23fighting merely with shields it's not the strangest image in talhoffer's manuscript
8:29another set of plates involving judicial fighting redefines the battle of the sexes
8:36contained within this section of the manuscript is a fight between a man and a woman it's a type of duel a
8:44dispute that has to be settled by combat to the death it's the first appearance of man woman
8:50dueling in a fight book this image of a woman battling a man is a far cry from
8:57the image of the medieval woman uninvolved in the violent world of men
9:03medieval women were much more powerful than they've been given credit for and especially through the 14th century they
9:10gained more power and were able to run businesses and things like that and it was only the renaissance when things
9:18started to go wrong and women were seen as more passive and
9:24inactive the evidence in the manuscript suggests
9:29that in some cases women were even able to fight a man in a judicial duel
9:35this is a really really difficult image to decipher because certainly what you do have at this time are very strong
9:42women i mean women are left to run castles while their men are fighting it's laid out as if this is something
9:47that did happen but you wonder what the kind of legal reason for that would have been
9:52a man and a woman might be forced to fight like this because of any number of disputes it might involve property it
9:58might involve inheritance it might involve accusations this is a ritual combat it's a
10:04semi-religious affair and they know that only one of them can emerge
10:09alive even more disturbing than judicial battles often being fought to the death
10:15is that some interpretations of the text imply that the combatants may have even been husband and wife
10:22a recreation of the duel could provide valuable insight into why the couple was forced to fight in such a bizarre manner
10:30it would be interesting to reconstruct one of these judicial combats as a living archaeological experiment to
10:37understand something about the physical components of the fighting actions and the techniques and also something of the
10:43mental and emotional component of the combatants [Music]
10:49the hole and the weapon fulfilled multiple functions firstly they balanced out the fighting
10:54inequality between the sexes and secondly just like the judicial shields
11:00the weapons were deemed suitable for commoners they gave her a heavy rock
11:06inside of her veil to use it like it's a flail it's not a manly weapon it's not a war weapon
11:13it's not a self-defense tool but they're clearly saying here you can use this it's going to be lethal
11:19bash is scaling bethany hughes will test the
11:24effectiveness of a rock in a veil against the skull of a sheep when you're up close with all this gear
11:31you realize this was certainly not play fighting i mean this thing is heavy in my hands
11:36and i imagine just one of these is going to be a killing blow [Music]
11:53that is actually sickening because if you can imagine that would have been a real man's head he would never have survived a blow like
12:00that so if tauhoffer was depicting reality rather than just some theory then this would have caused a huge amount of
12:07suffering in the medieval world this 1542 image of a judicial duel
12:14between two nights suggests that such violent justice was part of the medieval world
12:20and in 1228 there is even a case in switzerland of a woman defeating a man in the same
12:27violent manner as depicted in talhoffer's manuscript
12:33[Music] the garments worn by the combatants
12:38which they were literally sewn into ensured that they could not conceal anything that could be used in the fight
12:50it was also possible they were made of leather and treated with oil to be made slippery so non-fatal grappling moves
12:57would be ineffective and only a decisive killing blow would end the ritualized combat
13:05first off i'm sewn into this garment i'm buried it basically halfway up in a hole i i'm not going anywhere i'm literally
13:12figuratively stuck here i feel absolutely demeaned
13:20the reach advantage i thought would be to the woman or to the person outside the hole but in actuality i'm not having
13:26a problem it's kind of like a strike for a strike almost i'm learning that it's hard to strike
13:32the head at the same time as be aware of the club you have to be very fast on your feet to
13:39do both but with a little practice i think it would be okay
13:45and practice was exactly what combatants could get this is a type of combat that these
13:52participants would have entered knowing when they're going to fight how they're going to fight and who
13:58they're going to fight weeks in advance that has to affect their psyche and it has to affect their training
14:04[Music] a closer examination of the manuscript reveals that talhoffer wasn't just
14:11depicting a generic image of the jewels each plate contains specific moves
14:16that with specialized training could be used to defeat their opponent
14:21i'm dumping her on her head and i'm bringing this club down right after her and i'm gonna probably crush her or stab
14:28her there's nothing she can do from here it is possible that talhoffer included
14:33these specific images in his fight book to train the combatants and earn an income
14:41it is recorded that he had the responsibility of being judge in judicial duels
14:46a perfect vantage point to learn the most effective death dealing techniques
14:53combatants could learn these methods from talhoffer most likely for a fee to ensure victory in the eyes of both
15:00the law and god
15:06the conclusions that we can reach tentatively about this kind of duel it's let us understand it's brutal it's
15:13set up to cause a decisive outcome this is the world they lived in a violent age a violent world
15:21but talhah's vision so beyond the restricting circle of the judicial duel
15:28not satisfied with merely recounting in bloody detail his field of expertise
15:33he turned his attention to the machines born of war
15:44the 16th plate of talhoffer's manuscript depicts a siege engine used extensively
15:49throughout the medieval period this is a great trebuchet where one may throw stones and break
15:56cities and forts talhoffer was a fightmaster not an
16:03engineer so why would he include siege engines in his manuscript
16:09and where did he get the designs for these machines of war
16:14challuva is not the only secret war book we have in the medieval period in europe
16:20when you look at all the manuscripts you can see different machines copied in in all the manuscripts
16:28these images in talhoffer's fight book have been taken from conrad kaiser's 1405 belly fortis
16:35and peter vemming thinks he knows why talhoffer included them within his manuscript
16:40i see them more like a cv or something this writer engineer wants us to present his
16:48work to a king or whatever to get a job simply as that
16:56siege engines could tip the power balance and would be vital for warring factions attacking castles and fortified
17:03towns that covered the medieval landscape the machine from talhoffer's manuscript
17:09could provide the key to ensuring victory in this war-torn land
17:14it was in effect a medieval arms catalogue [Music]
17:20talhoffer lived in what was called the holy roman empire which makes it sound like it's one consolidated block but
17:26actually these were warring tribes boring kingdoms where everybody was at each other's throats the whole time
17:33unlike the original roman empire where you had one centralized military force everybody had to fight for themselves
17:40and in these battle-scarred lands men who claimed knowledge of the mightiest of siege engines
17:46would more likely be in demand from wealthy and powerful patrons this is a manuscript that's been very
17:52deeply researched it must have been incredibly expensive to produce and talhoffer you imagine must have expected
17:59some kind of financial kickback from all of his work talhoffer didn't stop with merely
18:05claiming knowledge of common siege engines the fightmaster's ambitions saw him present even bolder designs in his arms
18:12catalog and no machine was too radical for his visionary mind
18:19so many exciting machines in this book and this one is one of the more
18:25ambitious of the designs
18:30the swabian text above the image when translated reads one shall make two wagons of this form
18:37as viewed from below from there within the wagons folk combat those outside
18:44they fight with the guns and the lances the lorrication is all around them
18:51in two dimensions the machine is difficult to comprehend but once it is fully realized in three
18:57dimensions its mystery is revealed
19:08[Music] the design and telhoff's manuscript is almost unbelievably depicting an armored
19:15tank the reference to lorrication in the text is a term describing plated armor
19:22but how could such a heavy protected vehicle ever be moved it's a tank it's possibly the first tank
19:30we have to interpret things you can see how this comes off the page here well the text tells us that there are two
19:36carriages that it's pushed by horses so there are horses in here harnessed up so
19:42it's going that way this is a machine designed to go into
19:48the enemy but what's it do when it gets there well look it's got one two three four five cannon on each side this is
19:551459 but gunpowder has been around a while these cannon are drawn with such
20:00detail you can see the touch hole on each of them
20:08driven by a team of horses and mounted with cannons such a war machine seems improbable in
20:14medieval times did this tank really exist and how vital was the heavy armor protecting it
20:27a replica of a medieval cannon similar to the design in talhoffer's manual has been built by historical
20:34experts in denmark by 1459 cast iron had been invented in
20:40the west but it was only really used for cannonballs and they couldn't yet bore and drill through a solid block so they
20:48made it in the same way they made buckets and barrels they made it with staves single slats of iron that are
20:56held together by hoops just like they are on a barrel and that is why it's called the barrel of a gun
21:04[Music] by 1459 cannon technology was available that
21:12would allow multiple firing of the weapons from within the safety of the tank a technology that is the distant
21:18ancestor seen on today's modern battlefield by around 1450 they had developed the
21:24breach loading cannon that meant you could put the cannonball or the hail shot in at the breach end and the secret
21:31to that technology was this the breech pot in here you pre-prepared you poured
21:38your gun powder in there and that was sealed with a wooden tamper
21:49the breech loading technology could allow a gun crew to fire two or three rounds a minute
21:55but how much damage could these medieval cannons really deliver
22:01that's good
22:08look at this look at this it's just smashed through these boards it's made a great big hole
22:16here we go look there it's gone right through that in a musky shape oh it's this could have been a
22:23paper screen so one thing that tells me is our tank
22:28would have to be an armored vehicle if you're going to take that vehicle into the enemy which the horse is behind and
22:34the wedge in front look like you are then you must be armored because the enemy have got cannon just like that
22:50[Music] it's hard to imagine such a sophisticated machine in the medieval
22:56age an age perceived as containing only primitive technology
23:01but other historical sources besides talhoffen depict medieval tanks
23:06suggesting that they were more than just the fightmaster's imaginative fancy
23:15but not all objects in talhoffer's manual have such evidence to support them
23:20alongside the tank is an object even more difficult to comprehend
23:26[Music] we always get very excited about inventions of greece and egypt and rome
23:33but actually this book is packed with incredibly ingenious inventions um one
23:39of my favorites is is a very weird thing that looks like something out of a sci-fi movie
23:45and we think it's called the crayfish this rig is called a crayfish it
23:51conducts itself upon four speeding wheels it shears front and behind if one
23:56kindles munitions then it shoots stones before it steel buckshot is a hail where
24:01with one smite's load the foes historical reproduction expert richard
24:07windley will attempt to decode the image of the crayfish and bring it to life
24:13talhoffer's crayfish is one of the most puzzling and enigmatic designs in his book
24:19he tells us that it was made of iron so that's helpful and that it runs on four speeding wheels and there's some kind of
24:24munitions inside it and frustratingly he says you make this rig as big or small as you want which really doesn't shed
24:31too much light on it so really it's trying to work out what it could have been and more importantly how it could
24:36have been deployed so bearing in mind all the various clues that we've got from the drawing i've
24:42produced a design which incorporates as many of these elements as possible
24:49from the designs and talhoffer's manuscript richard will build the model to get a true sense of the object's capabilities
24:58[Music] here for possibly the first time in 500 years
25:04talhoffer's crayfish is revealed
25:11[Music]
25:18it's got all the main features that we get in the telhofa illustration we've got the big spikes at the front
25:23we've got the cutting scimitar blades here and also the extensions on the wheel which will cut and maim if
25:30anyone gets in the way [Music]
25:36richard has proved that the crayfish is a realistic design but its construction doesn't answer the
25:41question as to why or where it might have been used [Music]
25:50in a medieval castle or fortified town one of the most vulnerable points was the gates
25:56and these would need to be protected from attacks at any cost
26:03mike loads believes the crayfish could have been the perfect defensive system
26:09how about if this the crayfish was in a castle gateway or a gateway to a
26:14fortified town then you could see the ropes that made it go to and fro were
26:21embedded in channels in the flagstone floor that would be very effective because you
26:27could have a man inside the wall working a windlass to make it go to and fro if
26:32there were four five six of these going like this who would ride a horse through that who would dare to run through that it would
26:39take you off at the ankles and what is more the text tells us it has explosive
26:45devices in it that would send out a hail of shots richard has incorporated this
26:52devastating explosive weaponry in his design of the crayfish
26:57there is a removable panel on here which means we can get at the fusing for the grenades now these are made to simulate
27:04cast iron and it probably would have been full with metal fragments something that's going to cause debris to fly in
27:09all sorts of directions we really want to do some damage with this and take out as many enemy personnel as we possibly
27:15can
27:20talhoffer saw enough in the design to include the crayfish in his manuscript by combining all the team's research we
27:28can now visualize in computer graphics what such a device may have looked like in action defending a stronghold
27:36[Music]
27:49in theory the crayfish was capable of repelling an enemy at the very threshold of a
27:54fortification but for an attacking force to get that close in the first place was never an
28:00easy task talhoffer again appears to have the
28:06right tool for the job but the question remains did it work
28:15there are a number of ways you can take a castle or fortification you can dig tunnels underneath it undermine it you
28:22can do an escalade which is taking ladders and siege towers up to the walls and piling over the top or you can
28:28simply try and blow the gates off but how do you get your bomb to the gates
28:34well one idea is to use jamie here in his armor and say well you're wearing armor just walk
28:40up to it but up there are going to be archers
28:46the power of a war bow at short distance against a knight's armor could penetrate
28:51it at certain points and if an archer was skilled enough he could find the joint in the plate
28:57mail and kill the man inside [Music]
29:04risking nights like this would have been far too a costly method to storm a city's gates
29:10but talhoffer's manual seems to offer a solution
29:19terry jones one of the famed members of the monty python team is renowned for
29:24more than just comedy he's an expert in medieval history but some of talhoffer's depictions of
29:30siege warfare appear strange even to him
29:36talhoffer's manuscript shows a lot of surprising images i mean there's one here and these people walking up to the
29:42castle under these sort of metal bells i mean how did they get them off in the first place very python has
29:48to be and here's this castle that's being protected by two huge cushions
29:54outside the front door very odd
30:00the description above this cryptic image gives little information away
30:07see they are going towards the fortress with the basket they should lurch around
30:13within the shelter of the basket they go we know that so much in talhoffer works
30:19because things like trebuchets have been built and tested so we know that he's talking about workable things but when we come across something like this
30:26that's so bizarre so weird you think well would it work
30:31and of course the only way to find out is try and replicate it using the clues that are there so let's build it let's
30:37shoot things against it and test it and this
30:43is what the team thinks the medieval siege device may have looked like
30:48we've had to guess at the materials some people say it would have been cast like a belt others say it would have been
30:54plaid in plate armor i think that would have been far too heavy one material used in medieval times
31:01could have provided the strength of iron without its excessive weight
31:06hardened leather is tough it's what armor was made of
31:12during the middle ages a lot of poorer nights were clad in creole boiled letter
31:17hardened tough leather
31:23so much importance is placed on what this device is made of because of what scholars believe the structure was used
31:29for getting men to the very walls of a castle under siege and surviving
31:39as the siege bell drew near to its target it would have to repel attack from very close range if the men inside
31:46were to survive so i'm going to give this the ultimate test we're in extreme close range less
31:53than 10 yards and ben here is shooting a very very powerful bow of 80 pounds draw
31:58weight with a heavy war arrow do your worst ben
32:03[Music]
32:11i expected that to punch right through
32:16and it hasn't it's penetrated but it hasn't really penetrated that much
32:23certainly one of the guys inside is bleeding but he's not dead that is remarkable stopping power i think if we
32:31were to double this thickness we really would have something of genuine defensive capability
32:38[Music] a second layer of leather would reduce
32:44arrow penetration significantly and still allow the siege belt to be carried by two men
32:53it is feasible that such a device could make it to the walls of a castle with its occupants alive
32:59perhaps for those looking through talhoffer's arms catalogue and desiring the siege bell it is possible they could
33:05acquire the information about its construction from the fightmaster at a price
33:12the satisfied warlord could then deploy it in any way he saw fit placing a bomb
33:18delivering a letter of ultimatum or retrieving a fallen comrade in the field of battle
33:25but a castle under siege would have more than just arrows at its disposal
33:30when i look at that it's designed for one thing and that is to withstand an
33:36aerial shot if you're coming up to my walls and i've got broken masonry then i am going to hole them on top of you
33:45[Music]
33:52that has got a good structural shape and even very big boulders i think with that central strut in the middle the guys
33:59inside their heads are going to be okay but the correct military knowledge
34:08these drawings and talhoffer's manuscript have been transformed into a two-man siege bell
34:17but it was the armor on a medieval night that took this protection a step further by allowing the individual inside a far
34:25greater freedom of movement the nights featured in talhoffer's 1459
34:30fight book are primarily involved in violent and bloody activities talhoffer was trained as a knight and
34:37would know their ways intimately [Music]
34:44the knights of the middle ages are far removed from the honorable warriors that we perceive them to be today
34:51[Music] they were more akin to brigands some even robbing and killing rich
34:57merchants that crossed their lands or battling each other in violent and deadly duels
35:06ah we think of the middle ages as the knights in shining armor fighting under
35:12the laws of chivalry but of course the truth was actually different
35:17[Music] chivalry was an idea but the whole
35:22concept of knighthood it was a cult of violence it was violent young men killing each
35:28other or preferably killing innocent citizens
35:35honorable knights rescuing damsels in distress isn't the only dubious portrayal of these medieval warriors
35:42it was laurence olivier who was responsible for the misconception that armor was terribly heavy
35:48in his film henry v he showed knights being lifted onto the horses by cranes
35:54but in fact of course you couldn't fight if that was the case
36:10[Music]
36:16with many of talhoffer's plates dedicated to knights it suggests he was targeting serious
36:21fighters to sell his services too but more specifically those with money
36:28for a night's armor was expensive the term for an armor in the middle is a
36:34harness and you can see it's like a harness it's all different bits that go on and every single bit has to be
36:41tailor-made for the body anything that's not quite right will pinch and rub this
36:47is probably about 60 pounds of metal on him but it's evenly distributed
36:54and it gets a lot of its strength from its shape these are glancing surfaces
37:00a sword will glance off them so these curves give quite thin plates remarkable
37:06tensile strength
37:12for it to be truly effective a knight's armor had to allow the freedom of movement to match the swiftness of a
37:18lesser armored opponent on the battlefield [Music]
37:27and also let a knight climb or mount a steed quickly
37:34but the design couldn't compromise on its protective capabilities and it had to be able to withstand what
37:40is perhaps the pinnacle of medieval metallogy the long sword
37:49in many of his depictions of fighting techniques talhoffer reveals the weapon's deadly
37:54efficiency the craftsmanship that went into these
38:01blades meant that they had the potential of being the most formidable weapons during the middle ages
38:08what i've got here is a talhoffer long sword it's based on one of the illustrations in his 1459 manual
38:16this sword has a balance point about two inches in front of the guard
38:22which means that the blade can rotate easily about that point
38:29the heat treatment on a medieval long saw blade would have been incredibly sophisticated they were
38:36making a blade that would both hold an edge and would also flex during use is quite amazing very very
38:42sophisticated workmanship the heat treating on a sword is a
38:47two-part process which is the quenching which makes the blade hard but ever so slightly brittle and then there's
38:53tempering which is a lower temperature process of about 200 centigrade which makes the blade flexible again
39:01it's combining an awful lot of things it's got devastating cutting power and fine balance
39:08[Music]
39:14but despite a medieval sword blades technology they still weren't able to cleave
39:20through the hardened plate steel of a knight's armor with a sharp historically accurate
39:25robust blade designed for fighting armor you're simply not going to get through to wound him with an edge blow it
39:32doesn't matter how hard i hit him or where i hit him i can't cut through the
39:38armor with edge but a blows plate in the fight book reveals a long
39:44sword technique against a knight almost forgotten by the modern world
39:49an unarmored man might be forced to fight an armored opponent due to rules stated in a judicial duel or in the
39:56field of battle or beyond the city walls trying to escape from the robber knights
40:04tahoeffer gives us the way of fighting a knight and beating him and that is through the techniques of half sorting
40:10where we're going to try and get that point in his visor underneath his helmet into his groin behind his knee under his
40:17arm where he would normally have a chain male armor protecting him
40:22but even then the point is going to penetrate this technique of half swording
40:28used on unarmored opponents and relied on the fact that some medieval blades were not sharp their
40:34entire length and could be gripped when using specific fighting techniques
40:40and one such move would make an opponent's armor almost irrelevant
40:46the interesting features about this sword are that not just the blade is able to be used offensively the guard
40:53and the pommel are both pointed and if you wanted to you could use those
40:59as an active part of the weapon
41:04tahoe telhofer shows that besides the point you also can use the hilt effectively to knock him about the head
41:11to bash him with the pommel or the pummel may even be where the phrase to pummel someone to death comes from
41:17striking with a hilt like this is like smashing with a warhammer it doesn't look very lethal but the mass and the
41:24weight on it is actually has a tremendous amount of force behind it and it will knock him senseless
41:34john clements is going to try these half sword techniques against a knight in full armor to test their effectiveness
41:51[Music]
41:57[Music] [Applause] i'm so dangerous and potentially deadly
42:04in this thing that there's really not much i can do to try and hold back at all i mean i'm committed and once i'm
42:09committed the suit has a weight and deadliness all to its own
42:16fighting unarmored against an armored knight such as tel officer shows in his plate i felt obviously more agile and
42:24quicker but it didn't make that much of a difference he wasn't so slow that i could take advantage of it i saw
42:30openings but i can't get to them because he's all over the place but what i was able to do is hit with that hilt
42:40we know these techniques we train these techniques to go all out and fully do it and to see that pommel smash and put a
42:46dent in his armor and see him pause because of that blow that was uh that was enlightening
43:01you're good
43:13well and honestly i'm still feeling the effects of that pommel strike from the
43:18from earlier when he hit me with the rear of his sword that the pommel on the end of it had so much
43:24momentum carrying right through the armor that's actually making me sick
43:29to my stomach and i'm having a hard time catching my breath and staying in the fight because
43:34i'm just sick i felt it through my whole body this is the helmet uh he was wearing
43:40here it's a historically accurate reproduction it's the right thickness of metal the right kind of metal and uh the
43:47dents that were put on it it's not easy to dent this kind of helmet this kind of metal and when i threw the blow i could
43:53see him react
43:59i was frankly pretty darn surprised that uh i could get it in there with that kind of force we train hard we train in
44:05these moves from tauhoffer and telhofer specifically shows this technique in his image of an unarmored fighter against an
44:12armored fighter it really does validate that technique [Applause]
44:20despite its brutal imagery and title talhafer's fight book was not entirely focused with the martial arts and
44:26warfare contained within its pages is material
44:32from many facets of life in the middle ages including this bizarre image
44:39its purpose like many in the book is shrouded in mystery
44:44these illustrations are extraordinary here we've got frogmen people in diving
44:51suits this is 1459. [Music]
44:58the head is covered with a hard helm be it that the water runs strongly then
45:04you should burden yourself with weights so that you may submerge and emerge again too
45:10talhoffer tells us so much in this manuscript there is so much information
45:15but there's also little key bits of information missing and this is a classic example we've got a diving suit
45:23but he doesn't actually explain where the oxygen comes from perhaps he needs
45:28us to go to him to pay him to tell us what that missing bit of information is
45:35but could a diving suit actually exist over 500 years ago
45:44at the medieval center in denmark historians have built a diving suit from images taken from another 15th century
45:51source but does this technology really work
45:56this helmet is slightly different to the one that we see in the tel hofer manuscript
46:02what we see depicted there is what's actually known as a frogmouth helmet very appropriately for a frogman it's a
46:09frogmouth helmet which is used for jousting
46:21the point is you need a solid helmet to put the air in basically what's gonna
46:27happen is this is gonna act like an air bell a very simple primary technology
46:33the first of its kind and i'm very glad that he's doing it and not me
46:49although the secret to supplying air to a man underwater is not revealed
46:55the likely technology required is contained within the manuscript
47:00a set of bellows attached to an air bladder
47:08historical engineers found that getting this technology to work wasn't as easy as they initially perceived
47:15when you have a big amount of air in a big bellow that you need to compress to get it down to the diver you don't have
47:22enough force to press it into the hose and down to a diver so we had to go back
47:28and make three small bellows with very long levers on so you have a lot of power to pump the air
47:35it's a lot of hard work to work the bellows they need to be pumped really hard and fast
47:40to to get enough air down to the diver but i think we are about ready are you
47:45ready guys ready one two three one two three one two three one two three one
47:53two three we've got to buckle that front and back because as the air goes in
48:01then this would float off once it's in water but already the guys are pumping
48:07away here he goes down we've got to keep this
48:12pipe straight and there he is in the water
48:18really get pumping he's underwater now you can see the bubbles it's working
48:29this is fantastic you can see this technology technology that was thought about probably before 1400 and it's
48:36working that man is under water and he's breathing and he's breathing through this pipe for those guys pumping on
48:42those bellows it's quite extraordinary the test you see here is limited to 10
48:49minutes but in medieval times a diver could stay underwater for as
48:54long as there was a supply of men to pump the bellows this is the technology that put men on
49:01the moon the idea that mechanical contraptions can override our biological
49:08limitations good job
49:13the hammock yeah how was that fine you're not you're not wet there you ready the water and it's
49:19only wet to here no problem your whole face is dry it's extraordinary his whole face is dry
49:26the diving suit is one of the medieval world's great achievements and the version depicted in talhoffer's
49:33manuscript appears to be more advanced than the suit the team in denmark has just tested
49:40it is closer in design to the closed air systems we have today and is more maneuverable and better
49:46fitted with the air likely designed to escape from the sleeves and not around the face
49:54talhoffer does not reveal why the diving suit was used and possibly this
50:00and all the other information the fightmaster excludes from his manuscript is the answer to the image of him
50:06holding a broken chain could it be that talhoffer was the missing link that made his 1459 fight
50:14book complete for this manuscript offers us a glimpse
50:20into the violent and complicated world that we're only just beginning to truly
50:26understand

1 posted on 12/21/2022 8:03:30 AM PST by SunkenCiv
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2 posted on 12/21/2022 8:04:15 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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Sorry, they keep recycling the same vids under different regimes and titles.

The Secret Fight Master Of The Middle Ages
YouTube | August 28, 2021 | Chronicle - Medieval History Documentaries
Posted on 9/23/2021, 6:25:43 PM by SunkenCiv
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_zte0l-WFc


3 posted on 12/21/2022 8:12:02 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Medieval people really knew how to kill each other!.................


4 posted on 12/21/2022 8:22:58 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger

And not just them. :^D


5 posted on 12/21/2022 8:24:24 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Wars were up close and personal.

I read “A Child’s History of England” by Dickens, and he tells of battles with thousands of bodies strewn across the battlefields, Hacked and cut to pieces...................


6 posted on 12/21/2022 8:26:31 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger

Probably what he was referencing:

https://freerepublic.com/tag/battleoftowton/index


7 posted on 12/21/2022 8:32:30 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

I’m sure there were many battles of lesser, but just as gruesome nature, over the years in England............


8 posted on 12/21/2022 8:39:16 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger

Then there was also Leonardo Da Vinci’s Phased Plasma Rifle but it never was approved by the king.


9 posted on 12/21/2022 8:53:19 AM PST by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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To: minnesota_bound

God steps in every so often and scales back Man’s technological abilities so we don’t destroy ourselves too soon.

The Great Flood, the burning of the Library at Alexandria, the Fall of the Roman Empire, The Dark Ages, the Black Plague, World Wars I and II. What’s next?...............


10 posted on 12/21/2022 8:57:07 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger
Medieval people really knew how to kill each other!.................

That was a long honored tradition in Europe, going back thousands of years, but it's still being practiced and refined to this very day.

List of conflicts in Europe

11 posted on 12/21/2022 9:20:28 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Fake news, fake pandemic, fake vaccine, fake election, fake president.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Ping for later.

The Judas Chair is a wonderful invention...


12 posted on 12/21/2022 9:58:50 AM PST by EEGator
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To: SunkenCiv

bump


13 posted on 12/21/2022 10:45:32 AM PST by Albion Wilde ("There is no good government at all & none possible."--Mark Twain)
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To: SunkenCiv
To get an idea about the level of violence in feudal Europe, consider that the "Peace of God" (989 AD) and the "Truce of God" (1027 AD) prohibited such things as killing unarmed priests or raping nuns without provocation...

From an oath of Robert the Pious (996–1031) in response:
I will not infringe on the Church in any way. I will not hurt a cleric or a monk if unarmed. I will not steal an ox, cow, pig, sheep, goat, ass, or a mare with colt. I will not attack a villain or villainess or servants or merchants for ransom. I will not take a mule or a horse male or female or a colt in pasture from any man from the calends of March to the feast of the All Saints unless to recover a debt. I will not burn houses or destroy them unless there is a knight inside. I will not root up vines. I will not attack noble ladies travelling without husband nor their maids, nor widows or nuns unless it is their fault. From the beginning of Lent to the end of Easter I will not attack an unarmed knight.

14 posted on 12/21/2022 12:44:53 PM PST by nicollo ("I said no!")
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To: minnesota_bound
"Then there was also Leonardo Da Vinci’s Phased Plasma Rifle but it never was approved by the king."

The king only approved the 30 watt, not the 40 watt range.

15 posted on 12/21/2022 3:10:16 PM PST by MikeSteelBe (The South will be in the right in the next war of Northern aggression.)
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