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Idaho students were stabbed to death in their beds
Associated Press ^ | 11/18/2022 | NICHOLAS K. GERANIOS

Posted on 11/19/2022 4:17:09 PM PST by Drew68

SPOKANE, Wash. (AP) — Four University of Idaho students who were found dead in a rental house near campus were stabbed to death in their beds and likely were asleep when they were attacked, a county coroner told a cable news channel.

Latah County Coroner Cathy Mabbutt also told NewsNation on Thursday that each victim suffered multiple stab wounds from a “pretty large knife.”

“It has to be somebody pretty angry in order to stab four people to death,” Mabbutt told NewsNation. The victims were stabbed in the chest and upper body, the coroner said.

Efforts by The Associated Press to reach Mabbutt by telephone Friday were diverted to an Idaho State Police spokesperson, who did not immediately return messages.

In an evening statement, Moscow Police Department confirmed the coroner reported the victims were likely asleep and that some of the victims had defensive wounds. Police additionally said there were no signs of sexual assault.

Comments from Mabbutt and the police expanded on autopsy reports released Thursday, which concluded the four students were murdered by being stabbed to death.

Officers have not identified a suspect or found a weapon.

The killings have shaken Moscow, an Idaho Panhandle town of 25,000 residents that last saw a homicide about five years ago. The leafy college town is about 80 miles (130 kilometers) south of Spokane, Washington.

All four victims were members of fraternities and sororities: seniors Madison Mogen, 21, of Coeur d’Alene, Idaho, and Kaylee Goncalves, 21, of Rathdrum, Idaho; junior Xana Kernodle, 20, of Post Falls, Idaho; and freshman Ethan Chapin, 20, of Mount Vernon, Washington. The women were roommates. The bodies were found around noon Sunday.

Moscow police released a map Friday and later its statement with a rough timeline of events leading up to the deaths.

(Excerpt) Read more at apnews.com ...


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To: ought-six

I believe someone released the guy’s name, then retracted it as he is not officially a suspect.
Someone else here probably knows more.
I think one FReeper wrote “Jack”. FWIW


21 posted on 11/19/2022 4:33:40 PM PST by EEGator
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To: ought-six

Someone named Jack is what I heard. Not a security or emergency number.


22 posted on 11/19/2022 4:33:41 PM PST by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TP)
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To: frank ballenger
Did they have flesh and blood under their nails and defensive wounds?

I'd last read only one had defensive wounds.

I suppose if the victims were passed out in their beds, the killer could assess their posture and a quick stab through the heart would kill them instantly.

No noise. Nobody fighting back.

23 posted on 11/19/2022 4:34:10 PM PST by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024)
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To: Drew68
We get a drip, drip, drip from law enforcement. First, there's no danger to anyone else in the community. But then they have no suspects and haven't ruled anyone in or out so how can they say that? Supposedly, they cleared the two other roommates and the creepy guy at the food truck - but, again, nobody's been ruled out so how can you say anyone was cleared?

There should be a treasure trove of evidence here. Cell phones of the victims? DNA left behind (four murders is a full night's work)? Any ex-boyfriends/girlfriends?

I bet when this gets pieced together, the answer is going to look obvious.The autopsies ought to show if the guy(s) who killed them were lefthanded or righthanded.

I'm guessing we'll have an arrest by March.

24 posted on 11/19/2022 4:34:53 PM PST by OrangeHoof (No food in the stores; fuel prices too high? Thank a liberal.)
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To: EEGator

That’s whose phones were used. No telling who made the calls.


25 posted on 11/19/2022 4:35:00 PM PST by gundog ( It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: Kaiser8408a
100-1 they bought drugs and it was a drug killing.

Drug dealers don't normally murder their customers, especially in college towns.

26 posted on 11/19/2022 4:35:08 PM PST by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024)
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To: entropy12

Thanks. Like a jigsaw puzzle to get stories together from the dimwit “journalists” on news. Plus secrecy in all police stories, hopefully meaning they want to isolate the real tips from the publicity hound tips.


27 posted on 11/19/2022 4:35:20 PM PST by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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To: Drew68
Okay, so they called someone frantically multiple times then WENT RIGHT TO SLEEP?.. WEIRD!

Also, I heard that these inhabitants weren't security conscious and that the house was open to any and all visitors, streaming in and out at all hours.. BIG MISTAKE.

TOXICOLOGY report on these bodies will shed light, I believe. This HAS to be a drugs thing but one thing is sure: RETALIATION/RETRIBUTION AND WITH PASSION, BIG TIME.

I think the victims OWED MONEY and didn't pay up by the deadline. I'm thinking an MS-13 or CARTEL KILLING because as Trump says 'they like to use knives because they like to cause more suffering' or something like that.

28 posted on 11/19/2022 4:36:00 PM PST by CivilWarBrewing (Get off my back for my usage of CAPS, especially you snowflake males! MAN UP!)
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To: Drew68

I would think that a chair or lamp might have been used upon hearing the scream of a roommate.

Were the bodies tested for impairing drugs?


29 posted on 11/19/2022 4:36:05 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: EEGator

The article says they were likely asleep. Either they were asleep or on the phone. Or drunk. A lot of bars close at around 2:30 am.


30 posted on 11/19/2022 4:36:18 PM PST by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them )
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To: entropy12

“...the coroner reported the victims were likely asleep and that “some of the victims had defensive wounds”

Those could have happened after the first stab as there were multiple stab wounds.


31 posted on 11/19/2022 4:37:40 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (The only way to secure your own future is to create it yourself.)
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To: gundog

True, but I don’t know a single female that doesn’t have her phone with her, or next to her bed at night.
That’s not proof of course.


32 posted on 11/19/2022 4:37:44 PM PST by EEGator
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To: Brian Griffin

Perhaps a contract killing and the killer HIT THE WRONG HOUSE!


33 posted on 11/19/2022 4:38:23 PM PST by CivilWarBrewing (Get off my back for my usage of CAPS, especially you snowflake males! MAN UP!)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

Every drug dealer I have known takes cash only and no loans.
No green, no high.


34 posted on 11/19/2022 4:40:59 PM PST by EEGator
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

RE: Frantic phone calls....

On the color Dragnet show they insulting made a gun owner seem like a weird kook. He said he had the right to stop a home invader in his house. And it would take too long to go to a gun safe and unlock it.

Harry Morgan (Officer Bill Gannon): Sir, the time you would take going to get your gun would be better spent calling the police and letting us come out.


35 posted on 11/19/2022 4:41:08 PM PST by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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To: EEGator

Umpteen calls by the girl sound like she was trying to track down some ‘ol boy who wasn’t where he was suppose to be. I’m going to go put on a limb and say those are unrelated. People waiting on a dope delivery, etc. aren’t typically waiting in their respective beds. Further, 4 people slashed to death in bed isn’t dope dealer M.O. sure, cartels may do that as a ‘terror’ tactic and way of sending a message, but not low-level bum-phuck ID dealer behavior, IMHO. This situation has stalker, rejected dweeb features to me. Why’d he kill 4? Sometimes people are simply nuts and ‘homicidal rage’ is a very real thing. We’ll know soon.


36 posted on 11/19/2022 4:41:29 PM PST by Levy78 (Reject modernity, embrace tradition. )
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To: virgil

The whole thing is odd.


37 posted on 11/19/2022 4:41:33 PM PST by EEGator
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To: Drew68

They do if there’s a disagreement over payment. And honestly, I’ve seen another case where it was a case of mistaken identity. The previous tenants hadn’t paid their drug bills, so the dealer went to the place and killed the new tenants who had no idea WTH was going on.


38 posted on 11/19/2022 4:42:28 PM PST by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TP)
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To: CivilWarBrewing
Perhaps a contract killing and the killer HIT THE WRONG HOUSE!

I think it was Chucky.


39 posted on 11/19/2022 4:43:03 PM PST by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024)
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To: Levy78

I agree, and would add that maybe a rejected “wannabe lover” blamed the roommates for them not being together.


40 posted on 11/19/2022 4:43:06 PM PST by EEGator
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