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How Liberals Respond When You Try to Debate Them
American Thinker ^ | 8 Oct, 2022 | Gary Radtke

Posted on 10/08/2022 5:06:37 AM PDT by MtnClimber

Over the last several years, my liberal friends have become less and less comfortable with utilizing classical debating styles — you know, where one person proposes a theory, explains it thoroughly with facts and figures and then responds to any questions about the theory in a logical, rational way. This article develops a theory on why the vast majority of all liberals are currently atrocious debaters.

My wife and I have been lucky. We have developed many close friendships with lots of people over our lives. Some of these relationships are more recent, but many have lasted 20, 30, or even 40 years. We have over a dozen friends whom we try to stay in close contact with on a regular basis. About half of them are liberal; about half of them are conservative. Virtually no one seems to be dead in the middle anymore.

Recently, a new trend started to become obvious. For my conservative friends, roughly half of all their friends share conservative values, and half are liberal. But our liberal friends tend to have just one or two conservative friends, and they are no longer able to discuss political issues with their conservative friends, since the liberals tend to get too emotional when talking politics.

It is my belief that this inability to discuss political issues is because my liberal friends look only at online sites that share their worldview; they watch only TV news that reinforces their worldview; they discuss politics only with people who share their worldview; and they often look at social media that make them think the liberal view on a topic is the only rational one to have.

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To: MtnClimber

The classic fallback is, well I really just did not like how he talked with all the mean tweets and all...

2 dollar a gallon gas, low interest rates a strong dollar, energy independence, border security and no overseas war trump that is my response and nothing like a 100 dollar plus fillup to get my rant on, problem is there are few disacreetants to take me up


21 posted on 10/08/2022 5:33:52 AM PDT by Recompennation (Don’t blame me my vote didn’t count so mee s)
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To: RoosterRedux

I believe it was Thomas Sowell who pointed out that leftists tend to dominate fields like the media, academia, “science” (which COVID exposed as a fraud), public advocacy, etc. where people can still earn a lot of money even if they never accomplish any tangible, measurable success.


22 posted on 10/08/2022 5:35:09 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("It's midnight in Manhattan. This is no time to get cute; it's a mad dog's promenade.")
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To: Alberta's Child

And these are areas where they are not held accountable and do not get challenged in open forum.


23 posted on 10/08/2022 5:38:41 AM PDT by frogjerk (I will not do business with fascists)
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To: MtnClimber

Dear Gary,

See my tag line.

Regards,

L


24 posted on 10/08/2022 5:39:40 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: MtnClimber

Liberals tend to believe things because they feel it is the proper way to think. They can’t discuss it because they don’t fully understand it.
Also, I know very few liberals now. The people that used to be liberals are now Democrats. They get all their political opinions from the party so they can frequently change. Something they praised last year is now offensive to them. “A woman’s right to choose” is completely out now, like it never existed.


25 posted on 10/08/2022 5:39:44 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Biden told Al Roker "America is back". Unfortunately, he meant back to the 1970's)
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To: MtnClimber

Read later.


26 posted on 10/08/2022 5:40:03 AM PDT by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: MtnClimber

In my “view” this has been a developed process whereby the general population lacks the imaginative capacity to “see” in the “mind’s eye” what is said, as in radio for instance. Those who view the talking bobblel heads on TV see angry people with 3-4 real life issues, like killing the baby next door, or ending oil use for everyone else except themselves, or say killing their political opponents by running them over in crosswalks or other “instructed” guidance. The MSM on TV and their Newspaper of Record, advocate violence and even suggest the ways in which earn your Liberal Stripes - they are an army organized by rank and file, as the arm chair QBs, and then the foot soldiers of ANTIFA (good) or (Person who loves America - BAD BAD BAD), or members at the voting stations, the mules, or the politicans who are in it to line their pockets - none of them send their kids to public schools run by the Teachers Unions.


27 posted on 10/08/2022 5:41:58 AM PDT by Jumper ( )
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To: MtnClimber
The Non-Response Response "I am not going to dignify that question with a response."

This one's easy, and I meet with a lot of it at local colleges. Just say, "That's ok, saying nothing actually says a lot," or "Fine, no answer is still an answer," or "I get it, some people are questionphobic."

28 posted on 10/08/2022 5:47:07 AM PDT by Buttons12 ( )
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To: MtnClimber

As Rush once said, “A liberal will discuss issues for about thirty seconds, then start calling you names”.


29 posted on 10/08/2022 5:48:21 AM PDT by sima_yi ( Reporting live from the far North)
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To: MtnClimber

The one I hear from liberals ... you obviously spend too much time listening to FOX News. My response ... and you obviously spend way too much time listening to ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, PBS, & CNN.


30 posted on 10/08/2022 5:51:08 AM PDT by BluH2o
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To: MtnClimber

it depends on the liberal and it depends on the conservative.
and it depends on the topic. Not all the same.

But one clear problem is geographic spread. Big urban areas are 80-20 liberal. outside those urban centers the population is 55-45 conservative. (Note no % left for moderates.)

But Elon Musk is allegedly “moderate”. He sees global warming and is doing more to fight it than all liberals combined. His electric vehicle capitalism is winning.

Elon Musk Free Market Capitaliism is the best example. Most Conservatives used to believe in Free Market Capitalism. In 2002 Sean Hannity could have Pat Buchanan on the radio and point out that Pat Buchanan was the only Conservative who wanted Big Government to stop competition in the labor market.

Now Consevative mostly means Pat Buchanan’s labor market.
And these new Consevatives get all emotional and can’t discuss the labor market on facts and logic.

Of course, the liberals can’t either. Look at their emotiona, hypocritical reaction to illegals being bused to liberal centers.


31 posted on 10/08/2022 5:54:29 AM PDT by spintreebob ( )
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To: MtnClimber

Great article. I think they miss a point. Most liberals vote for their imagination. They are told about all of the things that are wrong that we have too fix but the solutions are left to their imagination. Like when a politician says “imagine a better....” or “we can do better”. As we know, many of the problems they imagine a solution for don’t even exist. So when the unicorns don’t show up they become more mentally ill. They rarely imagine the real solution (even if there is no problem). For example if man made global warming is a real problem, then the obvious solution would be to reduce the population. But they were imagining windmills and electric cars.


32 posted on 10/08/2022 5:59:09 AM PDT by Neverlift (When someone says "you just can't make this stuff up" odds are good, somebody did.)
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To: RoosterRedux
They can't argue their positions because they don't know how they arrived at them.

Very intelligent observation. And it's along the same axis why liars can't seem to keep their story straight.

33 posted on 10/08/2022 6:01:44 AM PDT by Ahithophel (Communication is an art form susceptible to sudden technical failure)
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To: MtnClimber
Recently, a new acquaintance, a liberal, asked my wife and me if we think all liberals are socialists. This was before we even sat down to have our first drink together. Who does that?

Answer: Yes.

34 posted on 10/08/2022 6:08:06 AM PDT by sauropod (Unbelief has nothing to say. Chance favors the preparbkmked mind.)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

“White female leftists are just plain stupid. Black female leftists are violent and stupid. Leftist males are waiting for their cues from their females.”

Well said!
Violent and stupid is not a good wife. I know a few couples who fit this description.


35 posted on 10/08/2022 6:10:24 AM PDT by Neverlift (When someone says "you just can't make this stuff up" odds are good, somebody did.)
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To: RoosterRedux

My SIL, a leftie lawyer, when discussing “climate change,” said simply she believes in it.

I said, “so you admit that it’s a belief”

I said “ All earthly climate is governed by the sun.” (I have a PhD in Astrophysics.)

She called me “closed-minded” and stormed away.

That’s what liberals do. They state their beliefs, and when you challenge, they call you names, like “closed minded, fascist, racist, ...”


36 posted on 10/08/2022 6:11:13 AM PDT by FroggyTheGremlim (I'll be good, I will, I will!)
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To: Fido969

Partner, you got that right.

37 posted on 10/08/2022 6:11:34 AM PDT by TheConservativeTejano (The Business of America is Business)
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To: mikelets456

+1000!

I was going to write precisely this response.

I am no longer interested in debating w/ them. Look at the excrement hole America has become!


38 posted on 10/08/2022 6:12:29 AM PDT by sauropod (Unbelief has nothing to say. Chance favors the preparbkmked mind.)
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To: MtnClimber

The subject of abortion is the best example of how irrational leftists are.

They start with the absurd position that it is a woman’s health decision and therefore nobody else’s business.

I argue that the fetus is a human being - and if you’re killing a human being - that’s everyone’s business.

They won’t agree to that - they say the fetus is merely biological matter that has the potential of becoming a human being at some future point.

I say ok, then would you at least agree that after that future point abortion is killing a human being and therefore should be illegal?

They refuse to define that point - what number of weeks - and say that’s for doctors and scientists to define. By refusing to define that point they think they have won the argument.

I ask them if, say, an eight month old fetus is a human being yet.

They usually get angry and return to their initial absurd position that it’s not anyone else’s business what a woman does with her own body.

Then they get even angrier if you point out their circular reasoning.


39 posted on 10/08/2022 6:14:20 AM PDT by enumerated ( )
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To: MtnClimber

Many conservatives are Liberals who have been mugged by Reality. There are little to none Conservatives who become liberal. It’s about understanding Human Nature which hasn’t changed that much through the decades.
I believe that’s why conservatives don’t hate on “progressives “ like they hate us. One side can be converted. The other knows it’s convert or kill.


40 posted on 10/08/2022 6:14:38 AM PDT by griswold3 (There are no solutions; there are only trade-offs. – Thomas Sowell)
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