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Only on 13: Couple finds fully-automatic M16s in storage cases bought online
ABC13 ^ | 9*27*2022 | ByMiya Shay

Posted on 09/27/2022 8:07:56 AM PDT by Chode

HOUSTON, Texas (KTRK) -- Federal authorities are trying to figure out how at least a dozen fully-automatic M16s ended up among military surplus equipment sold to a Houston couple.

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (ATF) executed a search warrant in a Richmond-area storage facility on Monday afternoon. However, that only came after the couple voluntarily notified authorities of their highly-unusual find.

Last week, the couple, who run a side hustle of buying surplus lots, dividing up the products, and reselling them on eBay, received delivery of 108 storage cases sold by a government surplus website. Over the weekend, a friend helped the couple stack and store the cases. As a thank you, they gave one of the cases to the friend.

When that friend opened the case, he realized it was not empty. Inside were 12 fully-automatic M-16s, all of them still with various tags designating the military branch and name of service members who handled the weapons.

"We just purchased these cases. We never expected anything in there," said the husband, who did not want to be identified. "Supposedly, the sender should check every single box to make sure there's nothing dangerous or anything."

"It's just a case, everybody can buy it online," the wife said.

Unsure of what to do, the couple reported the M-16s to authorities. Within hours, ATF and FBI agents seized the one open box with the 12 weapons. Shortly thereafter, the ATF obtained a search warrant for the couple's storage unit. They spent most of Monday on location, going through the boxes.

ABC13 was the only news outlet on scene. We observed agents opening, closing, and stacking multiple gun cases.

"It's incredible. It's surreal," said Greg Fremin, a one-time Houston police captain and Marine.

ABC13 reached out to Fremin, who is now a faculty member at Sam Houston State University, about how dangerous it is to have random military equipment floating around.

"It's unbelievable to think military-grade weapons would be shipped in containers across state lines. It's pretty shocking," Fremin said. "One of the strictest things we have in the military is weapons accountability. So these weapons are missing somewhere from a U.S. armory, and somebody doesn't know it. That's the scary thing about that for the U.S. military right now."

He continued, "For these boxes to have M16s in them and be shipped to a public destination, not only is it shocking it's a federal crime."

Exactly who's legally responsible for the gross mistake is uncertain. ABC13 contacted the online website that sold the gun cases. The company has since pulled all the other cases that were also for sale offline as it conducts an internal investigation. A representative from the company told ABC13 that it directly contracts with the Department of Defense to sell surplus equipment, which would not include any weapons.

The ATF confirms it's investigating along with the FBI but will not say how many weapons were recovered. ABC13 can confirm the number is at least a dozen, but unknown how many other boxes also contained M16s.

"We are good citizens" the wife said, adding she's now reluctant to buy military surplus equipment and fearful to run afoul of the law.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: banglist; m16s; military
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To: Chode

You mean that the same firearms Afghanistan Joe gave the Taliban for free are a problem if they wind up in the hands of law-abiding Americans? Who could have thought?


41 posted on 09/27/2022 9:44:24 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Red Badger

I would definitely, probably, maybe call the ATF right away. 😏


42 posted on 09/27/2022 9:47:06 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

43 posted on 09/27/2022 9:47:58 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: GMThrust

“That would explain why they went for a search warrant. Because criminals always contact the authorities when illegal activities occur. /s”

Just keepin’ it legal. Chain of custody and all that.


44 posted on 09/27/2022 9:49:51 AM PDT by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest )
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To: Chode
Those papers were dense enough to serve as armor that is for sure.
45 posted on 09/27/2022 9:51:55 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (The nation of france was named after a hedgehog... The hedgehog's name was Kevin... Don't ask)
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To: Chode

“somebody’s in trouble... “

Yeah, whomever the previous owner of the unit and whomever was supposed to bid on it at auction.


46 posted on 09/27/2022 9:52:47 AM PDT by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest )
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To: Chode
Unless these are from the factory or original Distributor, some Supply Sargent or Armorer is in big doo doo.

More than likely though this will be tracked through one of those Programs where our Government sells weapons to Mexican Cartels or 3rd World Crapholes.

47 posted on 09/27/2022 9:53:25 AM PDT by Radix
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To: Freedom4US
Re: The “Saddle Ridge Hoard” of $2.5 million gold value and $10 million numismatic value.

The problem ...is there is no way to sell those types of coins, in such good condition, rare dates, without attracting attention...

Melt them. $2.5 million in gold is worth more than $0 after you're forced to give it all back.

48 posted on 09/27/2022 10:10:21 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: TexasGator
And what do you do with a bunch of automatic rifles unless you are already a discreet arms dealer?

You never know when the militia will be called out to serve.

Keep the lowers and discard the rest if space is an issue.

49 posted on 09/27/2022 10:12:15 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: Chode

Damn. I’d have told NO ONE!


50 posted on 09/27/2022 10:31:50 AM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: Chode

The person who will have his or her career ruined will most likely be the SGT or SSG who was the units Armorer. Although the real culprit is more likely the a Property Book Officer, or unit Commander or XO. Those are the ones who have a say in what goes and what stays.


51 posted on 09/27/2022 10:37:50 AM PDT by fightin kentuckian
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To: Chode

We can all sleep peacefully knowing that these weapons are now safely in the hands of the DOJ, IRS, Interior, DHS, Education, EEOC, etc...


52 posted on 09/27/2022 10:41:48 AM PDT by SuperLuminal
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To: Chode

Coulda been worse. Coulda been AR-15s which are 5 times faster than M-16s.


53 posted on 09/27/2022 10:43:23 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (⭐⭐Public hangings will wake 'em up.⭐⭐)
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To: Chode

Good thing those rifles didn’t hurt anyone. - With so much gun crime in Chicago & all.


54 posted on 09/27/2022 10:49:52 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Chode

A dozen, full auto M16s...about a $240,000 worth of guns right there, maybe a little more depending on condition.


55 posted on 09/27/2022 10:51:06 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: Chode

They should have also bought a surplus boat, loaded said weapons cases on it, taken it to Lake Houston, and had a tragic boating accident!


56 posted on 09/27/2022 11:05:13 AM PDT by Oscar in Batangas (An Honors Graduate from the Don Rickles School of Personal Verbal Intercourse)
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To: All

LOLOL!!! you guys are killing me...


57 posted on 09/27/2022 11:12:00 AM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: TexasGator

Truer words never spoken


58 posted on 09/27/2022 11:16:38 AM PDT by wardaddy (Sound and Fury Republic)
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To: Chode

What is wrong with people? I would have kept them for my next fishing trip. They make great anchors.


59 posted on 09/27/2022 11:21:34 AM PDT by Glad2bnuts (Seriously, what ever happened to Campaign finance limits?)
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To: Ancesthntr

10 million in face value? Melt them babies, and cut your losses. People seem to want the value of the age of the coins. I would be happy to have some home made bars.


60 posted on 09/27/2022 11:23:28 AM PDT by Glad2bnuts (Seriously, what ever happened to Campaign finance limits?)
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