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CO2 Has Almost No Effect on Global Temperature, Says Leading Climate Scientist
https://dailysceptic.org ^ | 24 SEPTEMBER 2022 5:48 PM | BY CHRIS MORRISON

Posted on 09/27/2022 5:41:10 AM PDT by Red Badger

CO2 Has Almost No Effect on Global Temperature, Says Leading Climate Scientist

Forget ‘settled’ science or ‘consensus’ – that is a political construct designed to quash debate in the interests of promoting a command-and-control Net Zero agenda. One of the great drivers of continual changes in the climate is heat exchange within both the atmosphere and the Earth’s surface. Current understanding of the entire picture is limited, and it seems the opportunity has been taken to fill this gap by blaming carbon dioxide almost entirely for the recent gentle warming. A new paper on the so-called ‘greenhouse’ effect highlights the vital role played by oceans and water vapour flows. CO2 is said to have “minimal effect” on the Earth’s temperature and climate.

The paper has been published by the Global Warming Policy Foundation (GWPF) and is written by meteorologist William Kininmonth, a former consultant to the World Meteorological Organisation’s Commission for Climatology and former head of the Australian Government’s National Climate Centre. Kininmonth argues that the oceans are the “vital inertial and thermal flywheels” of the climate system. If one wants to control climate, it will be necessary to control the oceans, he argues. “Efforts to decarbonise in the hope of affecting global temperatures will be in vain,” he adds.

In Kininmonth’s view, the recent warming is “probably simply the result of fluctuations in the ever-changing ocean circulation”. CO2 “must be recognised” as a very minor contributor to the observed warming, and one that is unlikely to prolong the warming trend beyond the peak generated by the natural oceanic oscillations, he notes. He explains that the main driver of global temperature is the movement of energy in water, both in the oceans and the atmosphere after evaporation.

As CO₂ concentration increases from 0 to 600 parts per million (green bars), the total strength of the greenhouse effect, measured as the energy the greenhouse gases radiate to the Earth’s surface, barely changes (orange line). Source: Kininmonth 2022

Kininmonth proposes that tropical oceans have warmed recently, not as a result of additional atmospheric CO2, but most likely because of a reduction of heat as ocean currents have slowed. Heat has been exchanged with the tropical atmosphere, and transported by the winds to enhance northern polar warming. It is accepted that warming over the Arctic has been greater in the recent past than elsewhere over the globe. Ocean surface temperature in the tropics has warmed much less than the Arctic. However Arctic warming has occurred predominantly during the cold winter half of the year, when the surface is largely in darkness. For Kininmonth, this implies that it can only be the result of heat transport from warmer latitudes. Kininmonth’s conclusions are of course a subject for scientific argument and debate, but It might be noted that they provide a plausible insight into why temperatures at the South Pole have barely moved for at least 50 years.

Settled science is all in on the predominant role of CO2 acting as the climate control thermostat. As we reported recently in the Daily Sceptic, a bizarre ‘fact check’ by Facebook partner Climate Feedback of one of our previous articles stated: “Natural (non-human) drivers of climate change have been mostly stable since the onset of modern warming and all the available scientific evidence implicates human greenhouse gas emissions as the primary culprit.” As I argued, the claim that the climate has not undergone any natural change for almost 200 years is nonsense. Not a scrap of evidence can be submitted to back up this proposition, and Climate Feedback’s claim is little more than a denial of climate change.

The political narrative, however, seems to demand that like the White Rabbit in Alice in Wonderland, six impossible things must be believed before breakfast. To back up the narrative, imprecise science often ends up being fed into climate models, along with improbable guesses of massive CO2-caused future global warming. But as Dr. John Christie, Professor of Atmospheric and Earth Sciences at the University of Alabama, recently noted: “Models fail to reproduce accurate energy flows, and this is the guts of how the climate system works.”

Despite this, climate models remain exhibit A in the attempt to prove that we are on a path to climate disaster unless humans stop using fossil fuels. But increasingly, their controversial role is being called into question. The recent World Climate Declaration signed by around 250 university professors, and led by a Nobel physics laureate, noted that models had many shortcomings, “and are not remotely plausible as global policy tools”. We must free ourselves from the “naïve belief” in immature climate models. In future, climate research must give significantly more emphasis to empirical science, it states.

Of course Kininmonth’s work will be largely ignored in the mainstream. The BBC will bin it, the Guardian might be tempted to run its usual in-house slur that bungs are being paid by BP; anyone publicising its conclusions runs the risk of woke corporations like PayPal suddenly withdrawing financial transactional services, while footling ‘fact checks’ will ensure black marks and warnings across social media. GWPF invited the Royal Society and the Met Office to review the Kininmonth paper, promising any response would be published as an appendix. “No reply was received,” noted the Foundation.

Chris Morrison is the Daily Sceptic’s Environment Editor


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Health/Medicine; History; Weather
KEYWORDS: agw; catastrophism; chrismorrison; ecoterrorism; ecoterrorists; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; godsgravesglyphs; greennewdeal; williamkininmonth
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To: Red Badger

In my opinion, the rats blew it when they chose rather than to fix the issues of global pollution, they went after the American populace with a BS agenda designed to turn the US into the Soviet Union.


41 posted on 09/27/2022 6:55:55 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (DJT24)
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To: Red Badger

We follow science until science does not follow our political agenda


42 posted on 09/27/2022 6:57:02 AM PDT by BRL
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To: BRL

You get the “science” you pay for.


43 posted on 09/27/2022 6:58:05 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: beethovenfan
If they do this, there will be crop failures and mass starvation.

That is the objective........................

44 posted on 09/27/2022 7:02:39 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger

Once again, the Arrogance, Ignorance, and Hubris of Man thinking he can control the Creation of God, is proven.


45 posted on 09/27/2022 7:17:59 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Red Badger

Forecast from 2007:

“Artcic Summers Ice-Free by 2013”

“Our projection of 2013 for the removal of ice in summer is not accounting for the last two minima, in 2005 and 2007,” the researcher from the Naval Postgraduate School, Monterey, California, explained to the BBC.

“So given that fact, you can argue that may be our projection of 2013 is already too conservative.” (in other words the ice should have melted and disappeared even faster than predicted)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7139797.stm

from:
“What Happened to The Ice-Free Arctic??”
Posted one hour ago at: https://wattsupwiththat.com/2022/09/27/what-happened-to-the-ice-free-arctic/


46 posted on 09/27/2022 7:34:50 AM PDT by Swirl
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To: Red Badger

The c,image changes first, then aboutm800 years later, the co2 rises, accordignmto ice core samples. If true, this proves that co2 is NOT the driver of climate change- it can’t be.


47 posted on 09/27/2022 7:40:10 AM PDT by Bob434 (question)
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To: Red Badger

This has been known for years. CO2 actually lags temperature increases by many years but this is all the climate cultist have... lies.


48 posted on 09/27/2022 7:42:21 AM PDT by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

If any model used to demonstrate “climate change/global warming” was even remotely accurate in forecasting it would be touted to the sky. None of the models are accurate because the variables are to great, the data universe too large, and knowledge base too limited. It’s simply the greatest scam in recorded history.


49 posted on 09/27/2022 7:47:11 AM PDT by Rlsau1
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To: Rlsau1

long-range forecasting with models (months in advance) currently is not very good. And what happen to those forecast of large increases in the number of hurricanes for this summer and fall? One major land-falling hurricane for this year for the U.S. is not above normal.


50 posted on 09/27/2022 7:57:56 AM PDT by Swirl
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To: Red Badger

Real world information must be discarded. Models is the only way to determine the truth.


51 posted on 09/27/2022 7:58:40 AM PDT by pas
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To: Rlsau1
the greatest scam in recorded history.

Yes, indeed. And it is the major cudgel co-opted by communists to usher in global communism as well as by the elites to completely crush the middle class. WW II by Hitler and Tojo was nothing compared to the devastation wrought by this scam.

52 posted on 09/27/2022 8:02:17 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“I used to be nothing but a Deplorable Clinger, but I've been promoted to Brigadier Ultra-MAGA”)
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To: Red Badger

This study and others questioning the “consensus” is why the climate grifters are pivoting to nitrogen as their new crisis du jour.


53 posted on 09/27/2022 8:25:11 AM PDT by Valpal1 (Not even the police are safe from the police!!!)
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To: Red Badger

This is Big News! Wow! All of MSM will be competing to win the “most compelling” coverage all week! Just wait for the Sunday shows!!!!!!!!1


54 posted on 09/27/2022 8:31:12 AM PDT by gloryblaze
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To: Valpal1

Nitrogen?

It’s 80 % of our atmosphere.

It’s poisonous.

We’re all gonna die!....................


55 posted on 09/27/2022 8:32:07 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger

It would probably be easier to plug the holes in the libs to keep them from spewing their filth and lies


56 posted on 09/27/2022 8:32:56 AM PDT by shotgun
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To: Red Badger

global warming is their backdoor to totalitarian rule

the issue is never the issue

the issue is always the revolution


57 posted on 09/27/2022 9:11:17 AM PDT by joshua c (to disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives, cut the cable tv)
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To: Red Badger

Good to know there’s one out there saying this. We need more of them.


58 posted on 09/27/2022 9:11:33 AM PDT by FamiliarFace (I wish “smart resume” would work for the real world so I could FF through the Burden admin BS.)
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To: JAKraig

Geologist have found riverbeds in the Sahara.


59 posted on 09/27/2022 9:12:38 AM PDT by lizma2
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To: Red Badger

Systems are complicated. It’s hard to know where the system ends and what is and what isn’t part of the system.


60 posted on 09/27/2022 9:33:27 AM PDT by x
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