(Also, check out Pollards downloadable F/R HTML tool at his home page! I used it on this post! )
Posted on 08/06/2022 5:56:54 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin
The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you.
If you have specific question about a plant/problem you are having, please remember to state the Growing Zone where you are located.
This thread is a non-political respite. No matter what, you won’t be flamed, and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked.
It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread. Planting, Harvest to Table Recipes, Preserving, Good Living - there is no telling where it will go - and that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us! Send a Private Message to Diana in Wisconsin if you'd like to be added to our New & Improved Ping List.
NOTE: This is a once a week Ping List. We do post to the thread during the week. Links to related articles and discussions which might be of interest to Gardeners are welcomed any time!
Great thanks to know the relish recipe was a starting point. I looked up the brand dressing you posted and found an ingredients list but no proportions. So I can use your recipe to start. On the peppers you could be low in nitrogen. Our soil is high in nitrogen and all above ground crops grow great. Check your freepmail.
While I’ve not used that product myself, we DID sell it at Jung’s (where I used to work) and I don’t remember customers coming back with any problems with it.
It’s specific to grasses, which have a different structure than perennial or annual plants. I seem to remember another product called ‘Over The Top’ which people raved about. Don’t know if they still make it.
People used ‘Over The Top’ to get grass out of asparagus & strawberry patches.
Of course, if you have decorative perennial grasses in your landscaping, it WILL kill those, so be careful. :)
LOL! Thanks, Pete!
I vote for Michael’s! It’s so HOT now that I’m only going back out there to let the puppies back into the kennels from the (shaded!) exercise yard. Ugh!
Lunch, and then I have peaches, beans, cherry tomatoes and Golden Oyster Mushrooms to deal with. Beau found them while hunting last night. I’m making a big shrimp and veggie stir fry for supper. :)
I’m on the 6a - 6b line. Yes bottom land is the bomb, if it drains. What I’ve got is a flatish area, a shelf on a slope, so I have a little bit of the bottom land effect with nutrients coming down the above slope and a big concern for me is erosion and not losing it down the lower slope. Out of 8 acres, I’ve got probably 1 acre that’s good for growing veggies and a little more for fruit trees but that’s not bad for the Ozarks. 1-2 foot of yellowish brown silty loam which is easy to make fluffy with compost. I didn’t garden down in that area this year. Did a little spot up by the house but it’s not nearly as good and was pretty loaded with gravel/rocks.
I’ve got the curved and some straight pipe to build a high tunnel but the rest of the stuff is most of the cost and it will be time consuming. I think I’ll be doing the cattle panel arch method first. Either that or rebar in the ground with pvc pipe arched with the ends down over the rebar. Another option is chain link fence top rail. You can buy a bender to make them into arches but it wouldn’t be hard to make one. https://www.johnnyseeds.com/tools-supplies/greenhouse-and-tunnel-supplies/benders/
This was my first year of starting from seed and I went a little crazy. 20 varieties, over 100 plants with a lot of things I’ve never eaten before and I now know why. Definitely got the gardening bug. Just need to focus on what we’ll eat and get good at growing them.
I ordered these from Jung and Burpee last year. They are doing well.
So far I see little decorative about grass in flower beds or vegetables.
I’m reading up on the stuff. My sis uses it even in her roses but says NO for vegetables.
https://www.fertilome.com/ProductFiles/31135%20HY%20Grass%20Killer%2016oz.pdf
There are supposed to be five similar products.
I’m not too proud or scared to try better living through chemistry. I’ve had my best year for not having grass and weeds in the flowers though, planted annuals really thick and make the weeding rounds every morning when I water. The vegetable garden though, well, that is another story. I think somebody is sneaking in and over seeding with all manner of weeds and grass.
I’ll go mow the garden now.
You Tube videos:
Multiplier onions grown and used as scallions! (Small farm I think!)
(Nice outside washing bench!)
Japanese multiplier bunching onions
Obtained mine from Baker Creek. Growing these. I need to start harvesting and using them!)
Kelly Winterton lecture on heirloom potato onions.
There are also Walking onions which I do not have (no room) but there are YouTube videos about them. I still buy my Vidalias and Red spanish onions from the store, but not as much as before. I do not need to buy garlic any more. (50-55 heads harvested this year.)
Consider sweet potatoes along with your okra (grow them in the shade of the okra!), and pepper and tomatoes with that early start and irrigation. Instead of growing long season bell peppers select smaller varieties that mature faster, shishitos, Italian or romanian roasting peppers, ancho or jalapeno types.
I have harvested 3 or 4 5-gallon buckets of tomatoes so far. (Mostly determinate.) Peppers are starting to produce. No okra at wife's request. Sweet potates are in gardening bags inside of 15 gallon trade pots situated behind a picket fence, (shading that reduces sunlight and heat in the pot.) Won't know whether there is a crop for another 2 months I think! Nothing growing at the surface!) Cucumbers and zuccini are withering in the heat. Leeks seem to be doing well.
(Also, check out Pollards downloadable F/R HTML tool at his home page! I used it on this post! )
Yeah the taste in general was there compared to the dressing. The dressing has celery seeds, poppy seeds and mustard seeds, none of which I used. Last thing it says is “contains mustard”. I don’t know if they’re referring to the mustard seed or prepared mustard. It does have a yellowish color so I might try adding some prepared mustard in place of a vinegar.
I used comfrey tea as fertilizer which should have been high in N but maybe it just needs another dose. It has been a while since I fed them. Looked at it this morning the the foliage is a little yellow too so it probably is lacking N. I added goat manure last Fall but maybe I didn’t get much at that top end of the garden spot or it leached down to the other side where the tomatoes are doing better as evidenced by my belly full of cherry maters at the moment.
The wood ash water did seem to give them a little boost in growth and I have read that low pH will stunt the growth of pepper plants. Might give them another dose of that along with some N.
I’m about out of comfrey tea but I’ve got plenty of aged goat and chicken manure. Much of it is basically powder so I could side dress and water it in.
Had bad luck all around with the shisito. Lost a bunch of seedlings when I was hardening off and I let them get too dry. That potting soil will dry out in half a day I learned. Ended up with two plants but something ate one and I mean all of it. Had two plants one day and one plant the next.
Got a couple of Pumpkin Spice Jalapeno and they each have a couple of peppers and a Kalugarista pepper plant with one pepper forming. The peppers have had blossom drop worse than the tomatoes. Didn’t expect that since they grow them South of the border. So much to learn. I’ve got a roll of window screen I can use for a shade cloth and it will be easy to do. Should have already done it but I’ll do it this afternoon/evening.
Nothing like a first year of taking gardening serious to make you feel dumb.
Allium Stellatum aka Wild Onions, Wild Pink Onion, Prairie Onion, Autumn Onion. Prairie Onion is probably the most common name and there were some growing wild on the primitive campsite we rented when we first moved to MO and I wish I had dug some up. Any time you can grow a wild, native alternative, you're doing permaculture. You can buy Allium Stellatum seeds or bulbs online but I guess growing from seed takes years to mature to a plant that forms a bulb and flowers to make more seed. Get and keep enough of them growing and they'll self propagate.
Allium × proliferum aka Tree Onion, Egyptian Walking Onions are another perennial onion and one plant can turn into 6 plants. Supposed to taste like shallots but a little more pungent.
Sweet potatoes. Clarification; Plenty of vines and foliage growing at the surface, but no tubers that I can see without disturbing the soil.
We built up our soil from 25 years of goat manure plus compost. We kept a big pile down at the barn and dug up the oldest stuff each year. It was mixed with oat straw bedding. We grew comfrey too for our girls to eat. You probably know it is hood for goats digestion. I’ll have to dig out a pic from years back of our girls. Now we use compost and Chicken Soup for the Soil. Our second year and we have had great yields. Headed out for church soon I can post later.
Just gave them a dose of N.
I don’t know about you but my peppers love lots of water too.
Sorry about the picture size, too tired to resize tonight.
Thank you!!!
No problem. Very nice, but not enough Scovilles for me.
8^)
5.56mm
That’s about it, isn’t it?
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.