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Weekly Garden Thread - August 6-12, 2022 [All The Onions Edition]
August 6, 2022 | Diana in WI/Greeneyes in Memoriam

Posted on 08/06/2022 5:56:54 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin

The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you.

If you have specific question about a plant/problem you are having, please remember to state the Growing Zone where you are located.

This thread is a non-political respite. No matter what, you won’t be flamed, and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked.

It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread. Planting, Harvest to Table Recipes, Preserving, Good Living - there is no telling where it will go - and that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us! Send a Private Message to Diana in Wisconsin if you'd like to be added to our New & Improved Ping List.

NOTE: This is a once a week Ping List. We do post to the thread during the week. Links to related articles and discussions which might be of interest to Gardeners are welcomed any time!


TOPICS: Agriculture; Food; Gardening; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: food; garden; gardening; hobbies
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To: Pollard

I was considering the best zone for gardening, Missouri, just a bit further north comes to mind. Somewhere along about half-way up.


21 posted on 08/06/2022 7:24:06 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Politicians are only marginally good at one thing, being politicians. Otherwise they are fools.)
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To: bert

That’s a great recipe that I haven’t used in a while. Thanks for the reminder. So good with Vidalias.


22 posted on 08/06/2022 7:24:46 AM PDT by FamiliarFace (I wish “smart resume” would work for the real world so I could FF through the Burden admin BS.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I am contemplating a trip to Michael’s this morning LOL! They bought out AC Moore ... the AC store was big, very nice, and 5 minutes away. The Michaels store was in a much “cheaper rent” district & farther away. My SIL informed me that Michael’s has now moved to the AC store location (been sitting vacant for at least a year, I think).

So, to make this Garden Thread related .... pick tomatoes or go to Michael’s? Work on my cuke vines or go to Michael’s? Too wet for grass, so no comparison. I have a pattern for some really cute knitted PUMPKINS ... not growing any, but if I go to Michael’s, I could knit some ..... :-)

Good luck to Beau & Emma Jolene tonight! :-)


23 posted on 08/06/2022 7:29:02 AM PDT by Qiviut (#standup "Don't let your children die on the hill you refuse to fight on.")
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Has anyone here tried Hy Yield Grass Killer or similar product for weed and grass control in flower beds WITH flowers present?

https://www.fertilome.com/ProductFiles/31135%20HY%20Grass%20Killer%2016oz.pdf


24 posted on 08/06/2022 7:31:02 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Politicians are only marginally good at one thing, being politicians. Otherwise they are fools.)
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To: Bon of Babble

Always love your pictures!


25 posted on 08/06/2022 7:44:56 AM PDT by MomwithHope (Forever grateful to all our patriots, past, present and future.)
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To: bert

This version is deelish for bbq’ing.

On foil strips, alternate 2 inch sliced potatoes and sliced onions.

S/p, add butter dabs. Wrap well....throw on grill.

Done when squeezed soft.


26 posted on 08/06/2022 7:54:26 AM PDT by Liz (MAN PROPOSES....GOD DISPOSES.)
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To: Sequoyah101

The North half of the state is better for growing. Southern half is cattle land because it’s considered marginal for crops. A lot of it has to do with terrain too. Most of the Southern half is the Ozarks. Mini mountains, lots of rock and clay and not much flat land.

2022 is just a bit of a heat wave year and early summer year. Temperature in May would normally be below 80 and hit 80 on 4-5 days. Instead we had mid to high 90s for more than half the days of May. Last frost date is mid to late April. Any hardy crops that needed 60 days didn’t stand a chance.

I just need to come up with some infrastructure, tunnels, row cover etc so I can start things earlier. The same structures could be used for shade cloth. Even on normal years it would give me a head start which also helps avoid bug season.


27 posted on 08/06/2022 7:58:31 AM PDT by Pollard (Worm Free PureBlood)
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To: Pollard
That looks good I copied it, I've forgotten but are you the poster who raved about the sweet onion and pepper dressing? That's on my list to make too along with this, I am going to have a lot of peppers this year. Diana - I actually gave away about a dozen shishito's yesterday we have so many. LOL last year a famine, this year a feast. I am chopping and sauteeing for just a minute in olive oil, freezing in small packets for cooking. Also slit some lengthwise, filled them with a cream cheese/garlic/spice blend and submerged in olive oil. Have eaten 2 jars already. On a slice of toasted crusty bread and a slice of roast beef from the deli. No steak this year. Still delicious! Here is that recipe - mapleonionjam Sorry about the condition. Clipped from a 1987 issue of Gourmet magazine. Have made it many times. I always can in half pints and use vidalias and real maple syrup. It is divine on steak also on cream creese with crackers.
28 posted on 08/06/2022 8:13:52 AM PDT by MomwithHope (Forever grateful to all our patriots, past, present and future.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Why are the multiplier onions so hard to find and expensive?

I raised them years ago and just started them again. Are there various varieties?

They are winter hardy and produce well.


29 posted on 08/06/2022 8:16:04 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Luckily, there are no Left onions... ;^)


30 posted on 08/06/2022 8:23:31 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Pollard

I am right at the zone 6 to 7 break at the foot of the Ozarks, they rise in my back pasture. There are bottoms in the Ozarks that are good ground but they are sparse of course. I envied my relatives in the KC area who could grow things all summer that we could not here. It seems they hardly ever got bone dry and blast furnace winds like we do. Much milder for summer and winter is a nuisance.

We had the same early summer extremes except 5 to 10 degrees hotter. If you believe the astrophysicists we are in for short but intense summers owing to the 500 year cycle of close approach to the sun. The 60 to 90 day cycle just wasn’t going to happen this year and was made worse by being too wet to get in the garden.

I always figured things to be over for the garden save for purple hulls and okra by about the first week of July. If you can’t get it done by then it is best not to fight it.

The whole co2 and anthropogenic warming scam or even climate change scam is just manipulation. The amount of co2 we have added amounts to less than a fart in a whirlwind. Now they have gone on to nitrogen. Never mind that it makes 70% of what we breathe.

The head start is why I am going to try the propagation tent. I use cattle panels bent into an arch with shade cloth to good effect. I plan to build some kind of hoop tunnel for the raised beds to extend into Fall. Your challenge for early gardening is to get the soil temperature up and tents / tunnels would help with that.

We shift to about 2 or 3 weeks ahead of you. My friend in the central Ozarks is about two weeks behind us in Spring and that much ahead in Fall.

You appear to do your homework and have a lot of good reference material posted.


31 posted on 08/06/2022 8:45:33 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Politicians are only marginally good at one thing, being politicians. Otherwise they are fools.)
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To: bert

Sounds like a good, easy way to cook onions for burgers, steaks. Thanks


32 posted on 08/06/2022 8:48:09 AM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
I heard years ago that onion was 'the queen of vegetables'.

Is that too well-worn knowledge by now (that nobody mentions it)?

& garlic is the king. ;)

33 posted on 08/06/2022 8:53:53 AM PDT by spankalib
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Any suggestions on keeping deer from eating the peaches off a tree that’s too big to put netting on?


34 posted on 08/06/2022 8:54:21 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

To “Ramp” up your gardening knowledge keep reading this thread!
To review older posts “Leek” back to the July 29-August -05 2022 Gardening Thread and
Click on either picture picture!

Sorry! Someone removed the original image! Sorry! Someone removed the original image!


35 posted on 08/06/2022 9:02:01 AM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: DuncanWaring

Strobe light at night.


36 posted on 08/06/2022 9:03:29 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: MomwithHope
That looks good I copied it, I've forgotten but are you the poster who raved about the sweet onion and pepper dressing?

Yes, I did simmer the pepper/onion relish some more and then ran it through the blender. Little pulpy but will still squirt out one of those dressing bottles with the hole on the top. Tasted fairly close to the dressing already.

Heated it back up and while it was still hot, I put it back in jars and let them cool to pull the lid buttons down and stuck them in the fridge. I did try some on half a salad with the store bought version on the other half. The ex-relish was a little sweet and had a fairly strong pepper/onion taste so I think a little vinegar and maybe water to thin it out and ease the strength of the taste will fix it right up for my taste. Can't remember if we used white or apple cider vinegar when we made the relish. Been a few years. So when I break each jar open to tweak, I'll try a different vinegar for each.


I've been able to eat two shisito peppers so far, one at a time. They never did get to a deep green and the ones still growing are even lighter in color, yellow/green. I started 4 more and am going to grow them in pots with potting soil to see if they do better. I've never done a soil test but the USGS Web Soil Survey says 5 to 5.5 pH as do the wild blueberries growing here. I've tried fertilizing and also mixed some wood ash with water and used it to try and bump up the pH a little but neither really helped. 100 degree weather probably hasn't been helping either.

I've bought bell pepper plants before and tried growing them in well amended soil but not limed. Everything else grew great, but the bell pepper plants stayed mini-sized and the few peppers I got were also mini sized. I can buy bell peppers and I'm not all that big on them anyway. I planted them for the wife. Can't buy shisito peppers and I really like them so I'm going to have to figure out what the issue here is. It's pure hell eating just one.


Aside from the heat having prevented ripening and causing some blossom drop, the cherry tomato plants are doing great. I'm using the lean and lower trellis method and my longest vine is probably 15 foot long. With the heat preventing ripening, the lean and lower trellis shows it's flaw. The lower fruit would have already ripened with normal temps and I don't want to lay fruit on the ground when lowering. I ended up clipping a couple of low clusters with green tomatoes on them just so I could lower before the top gets too tall and bends over. The Barry's Crazy cherry is the worst for that because not only are they the longest vines, they also grow in clusters of 20-30. Even the flower clusters have some weight to them.

The other issue with lean and lower is a maintenance issue. The goal is one single main stem. If you miss a sucker, it turns into another main stem that you have to hang. I've got three plants that have Y'ed off into two main stems each and my plants were already a little close together.

Red slicers aren't near as tall so fence posts are working fine so far and I would have to set up a second complete lean and lower because they're not in the row with the cherries. Not doing that for three plants. Always read that if you can grow maters, you can grow peppers but that hasn't been my experience. Now that temps are below the mid 90s, I'll be giving away cherry maters soon. Well, maybe not the Rosella.

37 posted on 08/06/2022 9:42:49 AM PDT by Pollard (Worm Free PureBlood)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I got my garlic all harvested and ended up with a good crop.

I have pulled and am curing about half my onions. They did very well this year.

My potato plants look good. I’ll find out how they did when I harvest them. My tomatoes are coming in so canning is underway. I have some little baby butternut squashes starting to show.

I used the garlic bed and planted some turnips and beets and will be putting the Brussel sprouts in there as well once the heat breaks and we have more rain forecast.


38 posted on 08/06/2022 9:46:29 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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To: tired&retired; All

Multiplier onions are available on Page 32 of the current Jung’s Fall Catalog. You can view it on-line, here:

https://www.jungseed.com/ecatalogs

Or request a paper catalog here:

https://www.jungseed.com/catalog_request

Or, here is a direct link to order from their website:

https://www.jungseed.com/category/s?keyword=multiplier+onion

They are a fall planted bulb and you’re right - not many places carry them! :)


39 posted on 08/06/2022 9:56:34 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: yldstrk

I LOVE Astillbe for color in the shade and they come in a huge range of colors, now. Also, Japanese Anemone are really pretty.

I just start the week off with a topic related to gardening and add to it during the week; we never stay on topic here. :)

https://www.gardenersoasis.com/tall-shade-perennials/


40 posted on 08/06/2022 10:02:11 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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