House Passes Gun Contol Bill

Saw it on TV ^ | June 24, 2022 | ConservativeInPA

[ConservativeInPA]

No details. No articles posted on Internet yet. Some RINO traitors voted for the bill

[rktman]

A few years is too long.

[ConservativeInPA]

Thanks for posting. Everyone of them need to be booted from the Republican caucus.

[rktman]

In the house. Senate already boned us.

[Glennb51]

By Kimberley A. StrasselFollow
June 23, 2022 6:22 pm ET
If this week’s Senate gun compromise and Supreme Court ruling in New York State Rifle & Pistol Association v. Bruen highlight anything, it’s how much gun politics has changed since 1994. The left’s 30-year campaign for sweeping “gun control” is hitting an ever-taller wall.

OPINION: POTOMAC WATCH
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A Gun Law Reversal at the Supreme Court
The media is hailing the Senate bill as the first federal gun breakthrough in decades—since President Clinton signed the short-lived “assault weapons” ban. The more honest headlines concede an all-important point: This is a “gun safety” compromise. It’s an acknowledgment of what isn’t in the bill—not a single flagship provision of the left’s gun-control agenda. No universal licensing. No bans on classes of firearms or types of magazines. No raising of the purchase age or limits on firearms purchases. No national database to track gun owners.

Instead, the overwhelming bulk of this “gun” bill consists of provisions aimed at mental health, school safety and tougher prosecution of gun crimes—precisely where conservatives have insisted for years that the federal focus needs to be. When even Democrats admit their standard prescriptions are nonstarters and make a deal anyway, that’s a notable political moment.

GOP gripes aside, what small changes the bill makes to existing gun laws are items even Second Amendment stalwarts (like this columnist) can support. Uploading juvenile adjudications and mental-health records to the background-check system is a no-brainer; blowing out 18 candles doesn’t suddenly make one a law-abiding citizen. Concerned that red-flag laws in blue states are a constitutional train wreck? This bill might help. It contains no mandates, and what grant money it offers is conditioned on states incorporating stronger due-process provisions in red-flag laws.

The modesty of the bill is an admission that despite Democrats’ campaign to leverage mass shootings into gun bans, there remain nowhere near 60 votes in the Senate for more gun control. And that’s a reflection of just how deeply ingrained Second Amendment rights have become in recent decades—partly thanks to the Supreme Court. Despite the press using every mass shooting to highlight liberal states that respond with more gun laws, those states remain the distinct minority.

Most of the country has gone the opposite direction. As Thursday’s 6-3 decision striking down a New York gun law noted, only six states and the District of Columbia still had what are called “may issue” laws—in which gun licenses are left to the discretion of public officials. Forty-three have “shall issue” laws, under which licenses are provided to anyone who meets established, objective criteria. That number has been steadily rising since the late 1980s.

More notable, 24 of those 43—along with Vermont, which has no permitting system for guns at all—are “constitutional carry” states, which allow law-abiding adults to purchase and carry firearms without a license. Alaska’s decision in 2003 to rescind its permit requirement opened a floodgate that continues today. A dozen states have passed or expanded constitutional carry in the past three years alone.

Gun ownership is on the rise, and across new demographics. In an online survey conducted by the National Shooting Sports Foundation, firearms retailers who saw an increase in sales reported that they sold 58% more guns to African-American customers in the first half of 2020 than a year earlier. The figures were 49% for Hispanics and 43% for Asian-Americans. Some 5.4 million people bought a firearm for the first time in 2021—30% of all purchases. For all the media touting of surveys that purport to show Americans want “gun control,” that support is concentrated in pockets of urban America. The message is a harder sell across most districts and states, where the conversation these days is increasingly about prosecutors’ failure to enforce existing laws and jail criminal gun offenders.

Meanwhile, even the left understands that the high court’s rulings since District of Columbia v. Heller (2008) potentially kill key parts of its gun agenda. In Bruen, the justices reiterated that the Second Amendment protects the right to bear arms in “common use.” As the media never ceases to remind us, AR-15s—and other “assault weapons” the left wants to ban—are pretty common these days. Would the Supreme Court agree to a law raising the purchase age to 21, given the long history of 18-year-olds fighting and dying for America?

What politics drove the bipartisan Senate deal? Republicans had an obvious interest in moving beyond the gun debate and returning the midterm focus to inflation. The Democratic motivation is more complex. Party leaders wanted to show that Democrats can govern and to give vulnerable members something fresh to advertise to constituents. But the decision to compromise was also an acceptance of political and legal reality. The notion that “ ‘we’ll get more later’ is just rank bulls—,” an anonymous Democratic senator told Politico this week. “For the foreseeable future, I think this will be the high-water mark.”

That could change if progressives manage to destroy the filibuster, or if the high court’s composition alters. But neither is on the immediate horizon, meaning Democrats need to rethink. Federal “gun control”—for now and for some time—is a dead letter.

[rktman]

I see what you did there.

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

Don’t for a moment think this will stop. Once they have a slice they go for another slice till they have the whole loaf and guns are TOTALLY ILLEGAL.

This is how Nelson “Pete” Shields said to to it back in 1976. They have since then added rifles and shotguns to their “To Be Banned” list.

Nelson T. ‘Pete’ Shields
Founder of Handgun Control, Inc.(HCI, now the Brady Center)

“I’m convinced that we have to have federal legislation to build on. We’re going to have to take one step at a time, and the first step is necessarily — given the political realities — going to be very modest.

Of course, it’s true that politicians will then go home and say, ‘This is a great law. The problem is solved.’ And it’s also true that such statements will tend to defuse the gun-control issue for a time.

So then we’ll have to strengthen that law, and then again to strengthen that law, and maybe again and again. Right now, though, we’d be satisfied not with half a loaf but with a slice. Our ultimate goal — total control of handguns in the United States — is going to take time.

My estimate is from seven to ten years. The problem is to slow down the increasing number of handguns sold in this country. The second problem is to get them all registered. And the final problem is to make the possession of all handguns and all handgun ammunition — except for the military, policemen, licensed security guards, licensed sporting clubs, and licensed gun collectors — TOTALLY ILLEGAL.”

-Pete Shields, Chairman and founder, Handgun Control Inc., “A Reporter At Large: Handguns,” The New Yorker, July 26, 1976, 57-58

[Theoria]

Tony Gonzalez is Uvalde’s rep., and border in general.

[ohioman]

“The bill passed the House 234-193 on Friday afternoon, with 14 Republicans voting with all Democrats to support it.”

Who are the 14 House Traitors who sided with the Dems?

[Perseverando]

Number 3 on the list is Tom Rice from South Carolina. He just lost in the June 14th Republican primary to a conservative candidate. Unfortunately, Nancy Mace defeated her conservative opponent.

Vote them out!

[campaignPete R-CT]

2 from upstate NY voted YEA.

KATKO & JACOBS

Neither is running for re-election

[ohioman]

No surprise that Mike Turner (My House Rep from Ohio) voted with the Dems. While wanting to take our guns away, Mike Turner is the biggest neo-con scum wanting to arm the Ukraine. May he rot in hell!

[DoughtyOne]

Trump’s endorsements have helped replace 75% of the incumbent
Republicans they have run against in the primaries.

I submit there will be fewer RINOs in the mix in coming years.

[Caipirabob]

Agreed, yet it remains to be seen if it will be heard by 7 or 17 justices. 😬

[campaignPete R-CT]

OH#1 CHABOT is in a Toss up district.

Oh#10 Turner is Solid R.

Both were unopposed in their recent primary

[campaignPete R-CT]

Oh#7 Anthony Gonzalez is retiring

[campaignPete R-CT]

Michigan

Upton is retiring.

Meijer has a primary opponent

[Amendment10]

"There’s no legal recourse or presumption of innocence with red flag laws and should be struck down as unconstitutional"

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Post-17th Amendment ratification, desperate career Democrats and RINOs measure success of unconstitutional laws on if such laws help them to get reelected imo.

If SCOTUS finds a law unconstitutional after lawmakers get reelected, then no big deal. Gives lawmakers another opportunity to make similar unconstitutional laws to get reelected again. /semi-sarc

Insights welcome.

And speaking of elections, Trump's red tsunami of patriot supporters are reminded that they must vote twice this election year. Your first vote is to primary career RINO incumbents. Your second vote is to replace outgoing Democrats and RINOs with Trump-endorsed patriot candidates.

Again, insights welcome.

[Dogbert41]

“Mike Turner is the biggest neo-con scum wanting to arm the Ukraine. May he rot in hell”

Laughable how every one who voted for taking our guns away also voted and vocally supported the murdering Ukrainians to get arms and missiles and Stingers and Javelins, suicide drones, long range armillary, etc., ad nauseum, all being indiscriminately used against civilians in the Donbas. ALL of it.

[CFW]

For Kirkland & Ellis to tell Clements, the day he won a major gun rights case before the Supreme Court, that he would have to leave the firm if he wanted to continue to represent gun rights clients, was about as low as a law firm can go when it comes to Constitutional rights. They apparently only support the Constitution in truly “proper” and “politically correct” matters.

[campaignPete R-CT]

Salazar FLA#27 has a primary opponent in what is now a safe seat

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_United_States_House_of_Representatives_elections_in_Florida

OH#14 JOYCE just won his primary with 75%. Safe seat

PA#1 FITZPATRICK just won his primary with 64%
likely R seat

That’s all 14.