Posted on 06/22/2022 10:31:03 AM PDT by JOHN ADAMS
I voted for Trump twice, and I’m a lawyer and I played a small role in his challenge to the results. My question for this board is: why shouldn’t we pick a winner? Trump lost. He lost the election and he lost, pathetically, in the post-election challenges. He lost those legal challenges before Trump-appointed judges as well Bush appointees, Obama appointees, and Clinton appointees.
He’s persuaded 40-something percent of the country but not matter what he does, he cannot – can not – persuade more people. He has not done so and will not do so. It may suck, but it’s a fact.
We have to be grownups and face that fact.
To quote Trump himself, speaking about McCain – “he lost. So I never liked him much after that, because I don't like losers."
Don’t we need a winner -- someone who can actually get elected? The principles we espouse – belief in private property, in the right to bear arms, belief in the biology of the human race (XX= female, XY = male); respect for religion; belief in American exceptionalism – these are principles that most Americans believe in. If Trump espouses those principles and can’t get to, never mind above, 50%, don’t we need to pick someone who can?
You’ll say the election was stolen and that we can’t prevent that from happening again unless the crime is unmasked and punished.
Assuming your premise, just ask yourself this: is Trump able to get the crime punished? Really? The answer, you know it, is “no.”
You’ll say it’s because the other side is corrupt and they cheat. I agree with you. We need someone who can DEFEAT them at that game. Trump has proven that he cannot do so. He is what he called McCain: a loser. He lost. He has no way to unlose, because 50% of the country hates his guts and would sooner vote for Mickey Mouse. You may think that’s ridiculous, but you do not have the legal power to make them vote for your guy instead. It just isn’t going to happen.
We’re the grownups. We have to face facts and deal with facts. Just as half the country supported slavery in 1865, so half the country supports slavery now. We have to have a leader who can LEAD those people to a better place. Ronald Reagan could do that.
We should find a leader who can actually LEAD people to that place. That means not only people like us, who already support these principles, but people who can be PERSUADED to support them.
Trump can not do that. He can’t. He doesn’t have the ability to do it.
The New Yorker, which I know all Freepers read religiously and believe every word it says, has an article up savaging DeSantis. As the National Review points out, the article can’t avoid saying he’s very smart, works very hard, is committed to conservative principles. And he wins elections. And he would win in a walk against Brandon. Shouldn’t we be smart and pick, or at least start looking for, a winner?
They make total sense when you realize we live in a fascist state pretending to be a Constitutional Republic.
The only way to win when the entire establishment and its bureaucracy, the court system and media are against you, is open revolt. The fix was in and nobody could have won with a deck stacked against them as Trump did.
If there be any losers around these parts, sonny boy,I suggest you look in the mirror.
If Trump couldn't stop them rigging the outcome when he was President what makes you think he'll have more success now?
Read my post, Jo - I did do something. I’m a lawyer and I went to court for him.
He’s still not sitting in the Oval Office. That’s all that matters, and it’s all that will matter on January 20, 2025.
What’s your plan for actually fixing that problem — what’s your plan that you really believe will actually work, given the current facts on the ground in the United States - the corrupt media, the stupid voters, the Woke corporations, the unions? Given all those things - which are just FACTS, albeit facts that none of us like — given all those facts, what’s your plan for getting a real conservative to actually win in 2024?
You joined in 1998 just to post crap like this?
Epic
“I’ve been on this board for over 20 years. I’m a monthly subscriber. I’m not a bot or a plant.”
this makes you look even worse. How could you POSSIBLY have missed that the election was stolen and that Biden did NOT win. What is wrong with you? Why are you so willfully blind?
toast — So what are you actually going to do about it?
you’re still yelling at the umpire two years after the game ended. The ump doesn’t care. Neither do most of the fans.
Assuming your right, what good is your yelling about it actually doing?
Don’t you want to actually win, and have your candidate actually be in the Oval Office at 12:01 pm on January 20, 2025? What’s your realistic, attainable plan for actually having that happen?
Posting a TRUMP Won/ Democrats Cheated image on Freepublic ain’t going to do it.
Lawyers aren’t necessarily smart people.
Trump or nothing. If America wants to go back to the crew that is destroying America then America is doomed and your opinion means squat. Have a nice day.
spacejunke, you’re missing the point. Assume you’re right and we were robbed. What are you actually going to DO ABOUT it so we can actually FIX it?
Complaining about it on this board, and saying it to people who will never be persuaded?
Do you really believe that will actually fix the problem?
AMEN!!!!
If he lost...why won’t ANY court hear testimony about the fraud???? That should tell anyone who has seen mounds of evidence of the steal that Soros, Zuckerberg, WEF, many compromised men and women bought off, -—have sold America for their evil they don’t want to admit happened, totally bribed!!!
My gosh, if they would just repent, we could forgive, but to continue to push evil deeper upon us for their hidden sins, God will be their judge and send them to their eternal home.
All I see is blah, blah blah. When is your final Opus vanity?
Trump could get re-elected and then step down the next day. That matters not. Getting back in is what matters. If we don't then republic is dead.
I would say this even if the roles were reversed; if the MSM and the Deep State™ were right wing and they cheated a Democrat.
What makes you think you’ll have a choice to vote for DeSantis? I don’t believe he’ll run, especially not if Trump does.
Why don’t you run for office and show us all how it’s supposed to be done?
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