Posted on 06/22/2022 10:31:03 AM PDT by JOHN ADAMS
I voted for Trump twice, and I’m a lawyer and I played a small role in his challenge to the results. My question for this board is: why shouldn’t we pick a winner? Trump lost. He lost the election and he lost, pathetically, in the post-election challenges. He lost those legal challenges before Trump-appointed judges as well Bush appointees, Obama appointees, and Clinton appointees.
He’s persuaded 40-something percent of the country but not matter what he does, he cannot – can not – persuade more people. He has not done so and will not do so. It may suck, but it’s a fact.
We have to be grownups and face that fact.
To quote Trump himself, speaking about McCain – “he lost. So I never liked him much after that, because I don't like losers."
Don’t we need a winner -- someone who can actually get elected? The principles we espouse – belief in private property, in the right to bear arms, belief in the biology of the human race (XX= female, XY = male); respect for religion; belief in American exceptionalism – these are principles that most Americans believe in. If Trump espouses those principles and can’t get to, never mind above, 50%, don’t we need to pick someone who can?
You’ll say the election was stolen and that we can’t prevent that from happening again unless the crime is unmasked and punished.
Assuming your premise, just ask yourself this: is Trump able to get the crime punished? Really? The answer, you know it, is “no.”
You’ll say it’s because the other side is corrupt and they cheat. I agree with you. We need someone who can DEFEAT them at that game. Trump has proven that he cannot do so. He is what he called McCain: a loser. He lost. He has no way to unlose, because 50% of the country hates his guts and would sooner vote for Mickey Mouse. You may think that’s ridiculous, but you do not have the legal power to make them vote for your guy instead. It just isn’t going to happen.
We’re the grownups. We have to face facts and deal with facts. Just as half the country supported slavery in 1865, so half the country supports slavery now. We have to have a leader who can LEAD those people to a better place. Ronald Reagan could do that.
We should find a leader who can actually LEAD people to that place. That means not only people like us, who already support these principles, but people who can be PERSUADED to support them.
Trump can not do that. He can’t. He doesn’t have the ability to do it.
The New Yorker, which I know all Freepers read religiously and believe every word it says, has an article up savaging DeSantis. As the National Review points out, the article can’t avoid saying he’s very smart, works very hard, is committed to conservative principles. And he wins elections. And he would win in a walk against Brandon. Shouldn’t we be smart and pick, or at least start looking for, a winner?
We conservative republicans do not like cheaters like Biden. Biden did not tell the Americans that he had several operations to his little ole pea brain. Never ever bothered to tell us.
Has DeSantis ever practiced law as a civilian?
As far as I can tell, his law degree was put to use primarily as senior legal advisor and close counsel to SEAL team captain Dane Thorleifson.
Yes, he's a lawyer.
He also has a background of honorable military service, incuding in Fallujah, Iraq during the most deadliest year of the war.
Finally, Ron DeSantis continues demonstrating himself to be the man Donald Trump tried to be. Only with DeSantis, he's actually winning fights, not just whining about losing on Twitter.
So was Reagan and the Bushes, it comes with the territory.
Holy cow, man. Take another drink and go to bed.
The New Yorker, which I know all Freepers read religiously and believe every word it says,
Most rape victims press charges.
Seems like you and I are the only ones still outraged by the stolen election - everyone else wants to let bygones be bygones.
yes indeed — /s.
So you would vote for me?
A shame.
What do you call a bus load of lawyers going over a 100' cliff and one seat was empty?
A crying shame.
You are right.
“we can’t prevent that from happening again unless the crime is unmasked and punished. “
FAIL!!!! YOU ARE A LAWYER?! SOMEONE CAN PREVENT ANOTHER HOUSE ROBBERY WITHOUT CATCHING AND CONVICTING THE ACTUAL PERP FROM ONE THAT JUST HAPPENED TO THEM.
These “Move on” Republicans sniff Liz Cheney’s arse and think it’s perfume.
Don’t know, don’t care.
Of course you don't care. You enjoy having leaders who have zip experience in the private sector. The lawyers turned career politicians have pulled you around by the nose for DECADES! And the rest in the private sector have been doing this forever...Boy, that's worked out really well in the past 40 years huh?
Get real, the man was a lawyer in the military...C’mon!
Yeah you won’t be winning FRiends and influencing people with this post.
you’re a fraud
Hey, McCain was a veteran too.
DoodleHog is a big never Trump hack.
All good points... assuming you’ll be disappeared for them.
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