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'If I can't have them, neither can you': Illinois father, 35, is charged with murder for drowning his three children, aged 2, 3, and 5, in a BATHTUB before putting them in the bedroom of his home after 'domestic dispute' with estranged wife
Daily Mail UK ^ | June 15, 2022 | Alyssa Guzman

Posted on 06/15/2022 10:45:51 AM PDT by Morgana

An Illinois father, who drowned his three children in a bathtub and then placed their bodies in the bedroom of his home, has been charged with murder.

Jason E. Karels, 35, of Chicago, drowned his children one-by-one in the bathtub of his Camden Lane home on Monday after he and his wife Debra recently split up, a prosecutor said at a bond court hearing on Wednesday.

His children - Bryant, 5; Cassidy, 3; and Gideon, 2 - were spending the weekend with their father when their mother, Debra, found their bodies in the bedroom after calling for a welfare check for Karels, who was said had 'severe mental health problems.'

Karels was not on the property when she discovered their children in his home. The pair shared custody of the children, but did not live together.

Inside the home, police found a note written by Karels to Debra, with one line reading: 'If I can't have them, then neither can you,' prosecutors said. Authorities say the killings appear to have been 'motivated from a domestic situation.'

'Unfortunately, there was domestic abuse in their relationship and Debbie was finally getting the strength to leave him and proceed with a divorce,' her sister-in-law Christina Neuman Berg, explained to the Daily Beast.

'Debbie wanted to maintain a relationship with her kids' father and let him visit them, and now we know that was a horrible mistake.'

Preliminary autopsy results showed all three died from drowning, Chief Deputy Coroner Steve Newton of the Lake County Coroner's Office said.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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1 posted on 06/15/2022 10:45:51 AM PDT by Morgana
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To: Morgana

230 grains.

End of story.


2 posted on 06/15/2022 10:47:46 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (You can vote your way into socialism, but you have to shoot your way out.)
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To: Morgana

Didn’t even have the decency to off himself first.


3 posted on 06/15/2022 10:49:01 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Contempt for pre-born human life breeds contempt for post-born human life.)
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To: Morgana

what a sick loser, couldn’t even kill himself properly afterwards.


4 posted on 06/15/2022 10:50:23 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: Morgana

What on Earth is happening? The world is going mad.


5 posted on 06/15/2022 10:51:07 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: Red in Blue PA

45 ACP?


6 posted on 06/15/2022 10:51:11 AM PDT by Dutch Boy (The only thing worse than having something taken from you is to have it returned broken. )
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To: Morgana

Yeah, thats not selfish at all. (eyeroll)


7 posted on 06/15/2022 10:51:56 AM PDT by Delta 21 (It started as a virus, and mutated into an IQ test.)
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To: Morgana

Words mostly fail me about this monster. I do hope the death penalty is still on the books in Illinois. Don’t make him suffer, no lethal injection, no ‘ol Sparky, just make it quick, a double tap to the head. Get him to the Judge ASAP.
Let God deal with him, and quickly. A much more severe punishment than any human court could dish out.


8 posted on 06/15/2022 10:52:24 AM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian ( Ceterum autem censeo Justinius True-dope-us esse delendam)
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To: Morgana

What a ba$tard, may be burn in he11 forever....


9 posted on 06/15/2022 10:53:41 AM PDT by 1217Chic
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To: Sirius Lee

Has happened many times in the past and will happen again.

Divorce is not pretty.


10 posted on 06/15/2022 10:53:43 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: Morgana

I actually have a friend with a similar story. Her husband (they were in the process of divorcing) killed their 3 and 5 year old children and then killed himself. She went on later to remarry and have a second set of children. So very sad but she was and is resilient. We honor the anniversary of her kids’ death every year.


11 posted on 06/15/2022 10:54:03 AM PDT by olivia3boys
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To: Morgana

This guy needs to die a slow, tortuous death.


12 posted on 06/15/2022 10:55:06 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte (11/3-11/4/2020 - The USA became a banana republic.)
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To: Morgana

Sick bastard. Just another kind of evil.


13 posted on 06/15/2022 10:55:31 AM PDT by BBQToadRibs2
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Hopefully he’s ‘accidentally’ placed in general population in an area with a malfunctioning security camera. There’s probably one or two inmates that would take satisfaction in drowning him slowly in a soiled toilet.


14 posted on 06/15/2022 10:55:59 AM PDT by DaBroasta
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To: Morgana

Just the pic tells me he is excellent ex-husband material.


15 posted on 06/15/2022 10:57:20 AM PDT by JudyinCanada (Maranatha)
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To: Morgana
I have as much sympathy for him as I did for that Yates female.

Which is to say, none.

You kill your kids, you should be hanged in the public square.

16 posted on 06/15/2022 10:57:56 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (It is better to light a single flame thrower then curse the darkness. A bunch of them is better yet)
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To: riverrunner

There’s a theory that in general mothers love their kids whether or not they love the father, but fathers are more apt to love their kids a bit more conditionally on whether they love the mother. I’m female (and a mother) so dads feel free to disagree.


17 posted on 06/15/2022 10:58:11 AM PDT by olivia3boys
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To: Red in Blue PA
'Unfortunately, there was domestic abuse in their relationship and Debbie was finally getting the strength to leave him and proceed with a divorce,' her sister-in-law Christina Neuman Berg, explained to the Daily Beast.

Yes.

A trigger pull requires less strength.

Actually, as a grandparent, I would have taken one for the team and done the trigger pull myself.

People, especially grandparents, have got to start manning up when it comes to this cr@p.

18 posted on 06/15/2022 11:05:15 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Dutch Boy; Red in Blue PA

You’ll want to spit some Beechnut in that dude’s eye first...


19 posted on 06/15/2022 11:06:17 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Morgana

A horrible monster - should get the death penalty.


20 posted on 06/15/2022 11:07:43 AM PDT by Dante3
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