This might be your case manager.
Posted on 05/21/2022 6:45:11 PM PDT by 4Runner
We cannot believe this has happened. We sent business correspondence to our local U.S. Social Security Administration office two weeks ago by certified mail, return receipt requested. The documents were received by the Office, as we received the green Cert Mail card in return verifying same.
Included in the envelope we had sent to SSA was an official SSA form whose instructions were to return the form to the local SSA office. Along with the SSA form was a detailed cover letter, and documentation SSA requested confirming legal status.
Ten days later, we received an envelope in the mail from the local SSA office. The envelope contained every single document we had mailed them. The originals. There was no SSA cover letter, no SSA explanation as to why our documents were being returned to us, no SSA reference to the matter we were communicating about, nothing. Absolutely nothing.
Two pages were stamped as "Received", the other pages were not stamped.
This has to be someone's definition of institutional insanity. Someone had to be working really, really hard for a very long time, to bring us to this level of malfeasance. We are truly, truly lost as a nation. And these government employees earn six figure salaries? Good God almighty.
I remember sending in documents of proof of something they required and getting them back with no real explanation except that I did remember seeing something somewhere that original documents required would be returned after receipt. I’m guessing that’s what the papers that were stamped “received” were intending to convey.
I’d call the SS and talk to an agent and ask them to check on the status of my submission and if anything else is needed.
This might be your case manager.
Not all federal agencies are equal or have the same requirements. Come on, you know exactly what I meant. Don’t take it as something to get ticked off about.
Think the tsa person you have to deal with.
Think the average post office employee you have to deal with.
What government agency ISN’T out of control????
What makes you think the office is in DC? They don’t have offices they have administration centers and processing centers. One of the biggest is in Baltimore. Ghink about it.
I don’t see a problem here.
Unfortunately, starting up benefits w/SS is not like ordering a cheeseburger at McDonalds.
Your most relevant stuff was digitized and will go into queue for processing.
You can contact the local office and ask for status. There will likely not be immediate answer. I know someone who made an appointment with them when starting up and the earliest they could get was about a month out.
Those stopped getting sent through the mail due to theft and fraud. You have to go to an SS office to get one.
Tell me, do you also go to the store and pay with a check, then when the cashier hands you the check back you stare at it dumbfounded while the staff tell you yet again that no, they don’t need to keep the check any more, that it’s been scanned by the register, will be processed electronically and they’ve told you this every time you’ve done this for the past several years? Whilst everyone else is standing there getting increasingly annoyed that you’re holding up the line and wondering why you’re not just using a debit card because that’s literally what a check gets processed as these days?
What’s happened is that the SSA has received your documents and forms, looked at them to ascertain authenticity and validity, scanned them into the database and returned them. This, like checks, is standard operating procedure these days. There’s no need to retain and move around vast amounts of physical paper, which is expensive, slows down service time and is a fire hazard.
Because the SSA and other government agencies often require original documents, they scan and return your submissions. (I once worked a contract in an IRS contracted facility that scanned taxpayer mail-in submissions from the local region, but these forms were shredded after scanning.) There’s no need for them to retain them and every reason for you to get the original documents back. This has been standard practice for at least the last fifteen years.
Thank you. I wish SSA had told us that. Ha! Five years abs many contacts and they just keep promising to mail it out.
Such is government - ha!
I don’t know that this is the case everywhere in the US, but when I had to get mine replaced about a decade ago, that’s what I was told. Fortunately, the SSA office is inside twenty minutes’ drive and they had scaled the staff according to their regular demand so I was in and out quickly.
https://www.ssa.gov/ssnumber/ss5doc.htm
Make sure you have the originals of all the documents they list there when you go to get one, and set an appointment (online, if available) first. They also can do it by mail, but you must have set up an online account with them previously and you’re going to have to jump through the same hoops you would at the office anyway.
It’s all about hiring. Every slothful DMV or TSA or post office worker was hired by someone. There’s no reason for bad hires these days. It’s easy to hire excellence. The resume and interview and careful selections should be enough. And it’s doubly important to hire well and carefully when it comes to government jobs since it’s so difficult to fire feds.
Rules of a socialist program/policy:
The primary beneficiaries of a socialist program/policy are the politicians.
The secondary beneficiaries are the contractors and bureaucracies that support these socialist programs/policies.
The tertiary beneficiaries are the actual recipients.
You see that SS was set up as a slush fund for the congress critters.
Thank you. In my case, I have never actually needed the card and will just let it go.
Not worth the fuss with bureaucrats and traffic
Smiles
Hilarious how the govt doesn’t trust the USPS
Move them to Hilo, HI? Nome, AK would be more like it.
It wasn’t USPS losing them that was the problem they were concerned with (though that is another issue,) it was theft *from* mailboxes and people fraudulently pretending to be someone else to get a duplicate SS card, either as part of documentation to hide someone’s illegal status or to commit identity fraud.
It’s a big problem, and people using real SS cards as proof of identity (which they’re not supposed to be able to do, but...) is a common thing.
I should clarify something from my last post - if you have a long standing mySocialSecurity.com account with the SSA, they *may* allow you to get one through the mail. Most people will not be so allowed and they will be told to report to an SSA office to get a card.
since all the funds given to it was spent long ago
Indeed that’s when Hillary said we put a lock on the box to prevent it being tapped into again.
It’s like someone robbing your house and leave a note I moped your floor.
As a 59 year old, just a few years away from being eligible to hopefully get a fraction of my tax dollars back, I have this advice to millennials:
Max out your 401(k) plan with your employer and separately set up a Roth IRA and contribute the maximum - if you can.
Without major overhaul, Social Security will not be available for you. With luck, I might be able to collect on it a few years when I retire. But fortunately, I built up enough retirement savings to carry me through just in case. And if I have to spend a few years in my retirement being a Wal-Mart greeter or a UPS driver, so be it.
What our elected officials did with regard to raiding the Social Security system and essentially transforming it into a welfare program with "crazy checks" (SSI) and giving benefits to illegal immigrants is criminal.
ok thanks
i will try using our myssa account and see
thank you kindly
Yes but there are hiring quotas in government. The managers are told that, not in blunt words necessarily. We have hiring goals. We want more diversity. More women. More minorities. We put these first before white males.
Which is why you see these more inept, less capable, more folks doing this as a welfare/quota job.
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