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"Foreign" Campaign Money Completely Destroys Representative Democracy
the author | 4/20/2022 | fnu lnu

Posted on 04/20/2022 12:44:37 PM PDT by FNU LNU

"Foreign" Campaign Money Completely Destroys Representative Democracy

Most are aware that political contributions from foreign citizens are illegal in America, and we approve because we believe that only citizens should finance our political campaigns. Even if a foreign national owns a great deal of property in the US, he's not allowed to vote or contribute to political campaigns whose outcomes would effect his property.

Why shouldn't this be true on all political levels? Why should someone "foreign" to your county be able to contribute to a county official he can't vote for, when his contribution may sway the election much more than your vote? Why should someone outside your Senate or House Congressional district be able to contribute to a candidate that he is not allowed to vote for when his contribution may exert much more influence than your vote? Why should a citizen foreign to Texas be allowed to contribute to the campaign of a Texas Senator or Representative that he cannot possibly vote for when his contribution may influence the politicians much more than all Texans?

When an orange-grower in Florida contributes thousands to a Texas senatorial candidate because he thinks he will be helped in Florida, who do you really think that candidate will represent more effectively? You, who may contribute nothing or a few dollars, or the "foreign" orange-grower?

Don't such "foreign" contributions completely destroy representative democracy? Not impressed with how your representatives are concerned about your will? Perhaps it's because their allegiance has been bought off.


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1 posted on 04/20/2022 12:44:37 PM PDT by FNU LNU
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To: FNU LNU
Why shouldn't this be true on all political levels?

Why have you posted your vanity as news?

Why should someone "foreign" to your county be able to contribute

Why didn't you post this vanity in Chat?

Why should someone outside your Senate or House Congressional district be able to contribute

Why did you choose such a gooberhead name?

What the hell is a FNU LNU?

A Chinese midget farm?

2 posted on 04/20/2022 12:50:44 PM PDT by humblegunner (Ain't drownin', Just wavin'...)
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To: FNU LNU

Agreed!

Only citizens who can vote for a candidate should be able to contribute to their campaign.


3 posted on 04/20/2022 12:56:12 PM PDT by TheDon (Resist the usurpers)
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To: humblegunner

“First Name Unknown Last Name Unknown”


4 posted on 04/20/2022 1:03:25 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (Get out of the matrix and get a real life.)
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To: FNU LNU

Nothing about the government of the United States can be described as a democracy. In fact, the founders specifically stated that democracy does not work, thus, outspokenly avoided the same. Anyone calling our government a democracy is clearly ignorant. We have a republican form of governance or a constitutional representative government.


5 posted on 04/20/2022 1:05:13 PM PDT by exnavy (we are not a democracy.)
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To: TheDon
Uh Oh! You just suggested that corporations shouldn't be allowed to contribute to campaigns.

I think that's an FR no-no. I happen to agree with you if that's what you are implying. I believe that only individuals who are registered voters should be able to contribute to campaigns, but then I guess that makes me a commie or... even worse... a McCainiac.

6 posted on 04/20/2022 1:08:04 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (This is not a tagline.)
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To: FNU LNU
It is a serious issue.

One obvious "show" of this problem is the outside funding of referendums.

Put enough money into a referendum, and you can usually get the result you want.

7 posted on 04/20/2022 1:08:37 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: FNU LNU

And, constitutionally speaking, any American citizen can support any candidate anywhere in america.


8 posted on 04/20/2022 1:11:40 PM PDT by exnavy (we are not a democracy.)
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To: FNU LNU

Agreed, there should be a ban on political contributions from any company that derives a portion of it’s revenue from overseas.


9 posted on 04/20/2022 1:13:10 PM PDT by Truthsearcher
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To: exnavy
"Anyone calling our government a democracy is clearly ignorant. We have a republican form of governance or a constitutional representative government."

Every definition of "republican form of governance" involves some level of democracy. It's not "direct democracy", but it is "representative democracy".

In the "good old days" there were some offices where the people voted for state representatives who in turn selected federal representatives, but even in these cases there was some role for citizen voters to play in who represented them.

Anyone who says that the US is a republic and not a democracy doesn't really understand what the word "republic" means. If you want to completely eliminate democracy from our governance system then you are a true Rightist who wants us to go back to a monarchy or similar.

Of course the reality is that we are neither a direct democracy nor a republican representative democracy. For some time we have been an oligarchy ruling over state fiefdoms. So niggling over what type of democracy we have is beside the point.

10 posted on 04/20/2022 1:14:45 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (This is not a tagline.)
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To: Truthsearcher
Why not ban contributions from companies and labor unions and other "legal persons" who are not voting citizens?

Let companies and labor unions encourage all of their employees and members to vote for particular candidates who support them, but leave it at that.

11 posted on 04/20/2022 1:16:48 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (This is not a tagline.)
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To: FNU LNU

I think that politicians should only be able to accept donations from people that they directly represent. So, no out of county, district or state.


12 posted on 04/20/2022 1:17:10 PM PDT by FredSchwartz (What ever happened to common sense and simple logic?)
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To: FNU LNU

I’ve been listening to Rush’s podcasts from the 2008 election. Obambi had, at least, $500 million from foreign sources. McCain stated he would verify and reject any foreign funds. Obambi stated he would use any funds received, and then ‘examine’ the source, and ‘perhaps’ return any ‘inappropriate’ donations. Obambi learned well from the Clintons (Johnny Chung, Charlie Trie) that Asian, Chinese tyrants love it when democRATS are in the White House.


13 posted on 04/20/2022 1:29:12 PM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus III (Do, or do not, there is no try. )
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To: FredSchwartz

If Congress would regulate only that commerce which was truly interstate, a lot of political contributions would go away.


14 posted on 04/20/2022 1:52:16 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: FNU LNU
""Foreign" Campaign Money Completely Destroys Representative Democracy"

Not true...
"Foreign" Campaign Money Completely DestroysControls Representative Democracy...

Ease of control is just one of the reasons why the Founding Fathers created a Constitutional Republic so as to prevent the many historical tyrannical pitfalls of "representative democracy"...

15 posted on 04/20/2022 1:58:59 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another Sam Adams now that we desperately need him?)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

Corporations can’t vote, so they shouldn’t be allowed to contribute to campaigns.

I doubt it’s a problem with anyone on FR considering the obvious subversion of our governments by corporations.


16 posted on 04/20/2022 2:51:43 PM PDT by TheDon (Resist the usurpers)
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To: Ronaldus Magnus III

I clearly remember:

(Unrelated but) Arabs dancing in NJ streets on 9/11

Reports of many CC contributions ending in non-whole dollars- due to foreign currency conversion

The O-List....”journalists” on a secret mailing list to propel Obama over Clinton..


17 posted on 04/20/2022 3:00:48 PM PDT by Phinneous (By the way, there are Seven Laws for you too! Noahide.org)
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To: FNU LNU

They just created fake ‘foundations’ like the Clintons and accept bribes disguised as donations from all over the world. 🤪

Libtards and rinos think it’s wonderful


18 posted on 04/20/2022 3:04:57 PM PDT by NWFree (Somebody has to say it)
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To: FNU LNU

Representative Democracy ? what is that ?


19 posted on 04/20/2022 4:07:04 PM PDT by stylin19a (My therapist says I have a preoccupation with vengeance. We'll just see about that.)
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To: TheDon
FR was vehemently opposed to the McCain/Feingold legislation and celebrated when the Supreme Court found it unconstitutional.

I believe the thinking was that if it was okay for labor unions to spend members' money on elections then corporations should also be able to spend money to protect their interests.

The so-called rights of "legal persons" has been so expanded by the corporate whores we call the Supreme Court that we might as well have the country run directly by the CEO's of the top ten DOW Jones companies.

20 posted on 04/20/2022 4:27:05 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (This is not a tagline.)
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