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Are we losing our discernment

Posted on 03/21/2022 12:02:44 PM PDT by standing man

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To: HandBasketHell; standing man

Recognizing that there is indeed a “bandwagon” in just about any subject you can think of makes the point about just how close western civilization is to the edge. You’re on your own. Filter everything thru a krap strainer. More than just being lied to I am daily fascinated with “experts” and “reporters” who shoot their mouths off but can NEVER get a complete story. Remember the who, what, when, and where rule they taught us in oh, I dunno, grade school? The simplest example I see constantly is that the location of an event, of any sort, is rarely part of the story and that makes it useless. Most of the info coming out of Ukraine, for example, is useless. The reporters tell us where THEY are but don’t seem to know just where any particular event happened. And showing us days or weeks old pics repeatedly is so bleeping boring I have to fight eyeglaze. Truth does happen. Watch the fine print. Look into the background. Check numbers against claims. Notice the things they DON’T show pics of but should be able to. Try to watch the money. look to see who has a Dacha? Listen to who mumbles when they talk and don’t believe a word they say. Watch who blinks a lot, same rule. good luck and semper fi


61 posted on 03/21/2022 12:41:11 PM PDT by OldWarBaby
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To: Skywise

I don’t believe for ONE MINUTE that Biden had a hands off policy, I believe that Biden PRODDED Russia into this by whispering into Putin’s ear that Ukraine was going to get into NATO and EU then I believe it was leaked to Putin that there were bio labs throughout Ukraine AFTER all of this was in play the propaganda machine went into overdrive on how WONDERFUL Zelenski is!! The NWO cabal wants Putin GONE just as they wanted Trump gone!! They can’t achieve their goals with these two men in their way and once they released the virus, stole the election they needed to move FAST because Trump could get back into office, the NWO crowd would be in danger of losing the house and senate in just two years slowing them down again!! If we don’t succeed in getting MAGA candidates in the primaries this nation is FINISHED we are to damn near past the point of no return, we may already be at the point of no return when I look honestly at the judicial system!! Our ENTIRE government needs to be GUTTED of the bureaucrats entrenched there!!!


62 posted on 03/21/2022 12:42:35 PM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: standing man

I don’t believe most of it. Can’t trust them after COVID reporting.


63 posted on 03/21/2022 12:42:53 PM PDT by CommieCutter (LETS GO BRANDON! 🇺🇸)
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To: standing man

Yes. Somehow unless you support the Ukraine in all things you are labelled a Putin lover, by people with absolutely no skin in the game. This isn’t new. It was much the same for the Gulf War and the Patriot Act. Though it appears to have gone up a notch or two this time.


64 posted on 03/21/2022 12:43:03 PM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: drSteve78
There are no Good Guys in this conflict.

I've said that from the beginning. Biden, Putin, Zelensky, Trudeau, etc etc . . .

65 posted on 03/21/2022 12:44:30 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Instead of Build Back Better, how about put it back the way you found it?)
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To: ifinnegan
Most people seem to be pro Putin which is pro communist pro rebuilding Societ Union. It’s weird. And Putin started it.

I do not see many as pro-Putin. They are not swallowing the MSM/Biden ejaculate on a daily basis because we have discovered numerous lies and deceptions already.

Putin ordered the invasion. But did he really start it?

Ask yourself what would we do if Eastern Canadian provinces wanted to secede and join the US and Trudeau bombed and attacked them for 8 years, resulting in the deaths of 14,000 Canadians on both sides? Let's say there was an agreement to start negotiations, but Trudeau kept the attacks going while not negotiating.

Would the US stand by and let this happen or would we send troops to protect the provinces that want to secede?

Ukraine has blood on its hands. The West did not try to create peace after letting Russia have Crimea. The West only sought to exploit Ukraine for personal enrichment.

Where was the West trying to help negotiate peace between the separatists, Ukraine and Russia? Why did the west entertain NATO membership for a nation that was attacking its own citizens?

Putin is a monster and evil man. But Ukraine is nearly as bad. The West, who should have been the ones standing up for Ukraine independence and freedom for its people ignored the violence and sat on its hands while grifting the Ukrainian citizens of their wealth.

There are no "good guys" in this whole mess. As usual, this is a war created by the elite that causes ordinary people to suffer.

66 posted on 03/21/2022 12:45:35 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (We are being played by forces most do not understand)
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To: standing man

Well stated. Great question!


67 posted on 03/21/2022 12:47:51 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: standing man

Global warming is real.
We have just nine years to save humanity.
Covid vaccines work, preventing 100% death and hospitalizations.
Inflation is transitory and actually good for the economy.
DJT is a Russian pawn.
DJT paid for urinating Russian hookers.
Hunter’s laptop is Russian propaganda.
The 2020 elections were secure and accurate.
The 2016 election was jeopardized by Russian influence.
Russia is running out of ammo in Ukraine.
Russian soldiers were unprepared for a Russian winter.
(add you own here)

If you don’t agree with these statements, you are a racist!

Cynical, skeptical and jaded I am. But now I have a pretty good feel for when I’m being lied too. Something just doesn’t add up with this Russian Ukrainian mess.


68 posted on 03/21/2022 12:49:25 PM PDT by CodeJockey (Politicians are to America as oligarchs are to Russia. )
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To: blueunicorn6

I am afrid that Ukraine is in part designed to be a dstraction for XI to both test our abilities and resolve and to go for Taiwan.


69 posted on 03/21/2022 12:49:34 PM PDT by arthurus (- covfefe )
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To: standing man

Our deep state has been doing something very shocking in Ukraine. This is why they are going insane over Putin’s invasion. We never got any answers about Romney associates / Pelosi / Hunter Biden / Brandon / Mccain etc. in Ukraine. It was all quickly swept under the rug. Something big is in Ukraine. Giuliani thought so too and was destroyed by the media for going over there to look into it. Further, Zelensky is a Soros stooge. I am not saying Putin is a good guy (maybe he is - hopefully he is) but we know that there are some dastardly deeds being covered up by our deep state in Ukraine. To accept the deep state narrative without any quesitons is completely unpatriotic.


70 posted on 03/21/2022 12:50:16 PM PDT by imabadboy99
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To: lucky american

Your theory is quite correct I think but let me close a gap you left. The clotshots are clearly meant to kill people but slower than the depopulation crowd would like. The “starvation” explanation helps mask the deaths that would/will occur anyway. And starvation is rapidly taking the place of COVID in the narrative. And between G5 phone head tumors and clotshot heart attacks we are going to lose a generation.


71 posted on 03/21/2022 12:50:59 PM PDT by OldWarBaby
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To: standing man

Why do we accept as fact the narrative that we are being fed by the msm?


Has anyone really addressed your question?

1) it is easily to follow the crowd than think on your own. People are basically sheep.

2) If one or two stand up, at first they are savagely attacked but if you continue to stand up, eventually a few more will follow your thinking. But you can still be trampled to death by the sheep.

https://www.killology.com/sheep-wolves-and-sheepdogs


72 posted on 03/21/2022 12:51:49 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: arthurus

Fine.

Park a string of aircraft carriers from the US to Taiwan.


73 posted on 03/21/2022 12:52:38 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer”)
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To: standing man

1st off it’s been about 6 years we have been lied to.

Why do “WE” accept as fact the narrative that we are being fed by the msm?

Who is this we outside of un and ill informed libs?


74 posted on 03/21/2022 12:54:13 PM PDT by Harpotoo (Being a socialist is a lot easier than having to WORK like the rest of US:-))
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To: mmichaels1970
Putin is a KGB soviet-pinko and I hope he get's his rear-end handed to him

Russian people, and a large percentage of Ukrainians, believe Putin to be a Christian, restoring historic Russian faith, arresting pedophiles, and forbidding LGBTQI indoctrination of kids. Perhaps you are the Commie Pinko?
75 posted on 03/21/2022 12:55:33 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: standing man

Honestly, I think people try to make this more complicated than it needs to be.

Ukraine is a country. Almost everyone agrees that is true.

Russia has troops inside Ukraine.

It is pretty clear that a vast majority of the Ukrainian citizens do not want them there.

Everything else is spin and propaganda.


76 posted on 03/21/2022 12:56:12 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Good for him.

His troops are in a country that is not his own. They should leave. It IS that simple.

Then he can gather everyone around and celebrate Easter.


77 posted on 03/21/2022 12:58:42 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: BlackAdderess

Now I would have to disagree - I don’t believe that they’re all ‘perfectly acceptable’ and merely ‘brainwashed’.

I suspect some of them know exactly what they’re doing, and are probably even paid for it.


78 posted on 03/21/2022 12:58:54 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Spok

I haven’t been caused to ‘hate Russia’.

I hate Putin.


79 posted on 03/21/2022 1:05:49 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Jamestown1630

I’ve no doubt they are being paid, but do you remember all the unhinged lefties from Trump’s announcement onward? I’m pretty sure a number of them were being paid too, and thats to say nothing of all the wars on other forums trying to get conservatives banned.


80 posted on 03/21/2022 1:06:44 PM PDT by BlackAdderess (Hope for the best, prepare for the worst)
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