I do not see many as pro-Putin. They are not swallowing the MSM/Biden ejaculate on a daily basis because we have discovered numerous lies and deceptions already.
Putin ordered the invasion. But did he really start it?
Ask yourself what would we do if Eastern Canadian provinces wanted to secede and join the US and Trudeau bombed and attacked them for 8 years, resulting in the deaths of 14,000 Canadians on both sides? Let's say there was an agreement to start negotiations, but Trudeau kept the attacks going while not negotiating.
Would the US stand by and let this happen or would we send troops to protect the provinces that want to secede?
Ukraine has blood on its hands. The West did not try to create peace after letting Russia have Crimea. The West only sought to exploit Ukraine for personal enrichment.
Where was the West trying to help negotiate peace between the separatists, Ukraine and Russia? Why did the west entertain NATO membership for a nation that was attacking its own citizens?
Putin is a monster and evil man. But Ukraine is nearly as bad. The West, who should have been the ones standing up for Ukraine independence and freedom for its people ignored the violence and sat on its hands while grifting the Ukrainian citizens of their wealth.
There are no "good guys" in this whole mess. As usual, this is a war created by the elite that causes ordinary people to suffer.
“I do not see many as pro-Putin. They are not swallowing the MSM/Biden ejaculate on a daily basis because we have discovered numerous lies and deceptions already.”
You’re just buying the other “ejaculate” to use your unusual choice of terminology.
“There are no “good guys” in this whole mess. As usual, this is a war created by the elite that causes ordinary people to suffer”
You may not realize it but your rhetoric promotes Putin as the good guy.
As far as “no good guy” I look then to see who started it and it was Putin/Russia.
“There are no “good guys” in this whole mess. As usual, this is a war created by the elite that causes ordinary people to suffer.”
Yes.
So why are you acting as a Putin/Russia apologist?
I don’t ask that as an insult.
So, you just swallowed the Obama/Bush narrative?
Well put!! theActor is a Soros plant and not trustworthy. The One World Order crowd is happy to annilate the Christian populace of Ukraine... and will likely not negotiate a truce since they want to bring down Putin the nationalist.... ymmv
Nice try, but you are putting out the Putin spin. Here is a more accurate analogy.
Some part of Canada wants to join the USA so rebels there attack the government of Canada.
The USA provides the rebels with weapons, and then in 2014 and 2015 sends our own troops in to invade part of Canada.
After Canada manages to repel several incursions from the break-away provinces into the rest of Canada the Canadian government and our government agree to a cease fire.
Over the years both sides exchange fire across the cease fire line, with OSCE monitors maintaining daily logs of the shots fired and the direction they came from.
After 8 years of shelling by the US against Canada, and shelling back from Canada against the US positions in the break away provinces something like 14,000 people have died. Most are in the two opposing military factions.
And then the USA launches a full out invasion of Canada.
Would the US stand by and let this happen or would we send troops to protect the provinces that want to secede?
***The current admin of the US would let it happen. Trump woulda done sumthin about it. But your whole scenario only looks at the one strained gnat while swallowing a whole camel. And that is the Budapest Agreement that Rukes, the Ukes, and US all signed. The Rukes violated it by invading, twice. The Ukes HONORED it. The US is busy trying to find ways to abrogate it and betray the Ukes.
It’s no secret that Putin stirred up the trouble in those western reaches of Ukraine. It is also no secret that he simply invaded Ukraine. He never would have invaded Ukraine if they had kept those nukes.