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NEW CARS WILL NICKEL-AND-DIME YOU – IT’S AUTOMOTIVE AS A SERVICE (airbag requires monthly payment..and maybe good social credit?)
Hackaday ^ | December 30, 2021 | Lewin Day

Posted on 01/17/2022 8:14:40 PM PST by DoodleBob

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To: DoodleBob
Meanwhile, from the UK...

New EU speed limiters set to launch in months may come with a 'different set of dangers' NEW EU speed limiter tools set to launch in the UK this July may have led to a "different set of dangers" on the road under its previous guise.

Be sure to read the article about what the EU wanted to do the first time around.

And hey, UK, how's about that Brexit, eh?

61 posted on 01/23/2022 4:20:24 AM PST by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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To: Jonty30
You already are!

Check engine light, on star (every car brand has its equivalent), over priced parts that decompose or are designed to break (headlights, bumpers...)

If you buy a newer car, you are buying a disposable product that after a very defined useful life becomes junk. Are you going to pay the high price of replacing the battery on an old hybrid or all electric car? Nope, you buy a new one.

Unless you have an older car, you have a car that is designed to nickle and dime you to death. It's only getting really absurd/ridiculous now.

Soon you'll be paying for service for things where 30 years ago they already figured out how to make it reliable and lasting the entire life of the vehicle without any service. Like your refrigerator, a red light will come on and ask you to pay $40 for a filter. Maybe a cabin air filter where they don't even tell you where it is at.


There once was a time where people looked at reliability, warranty, ability to DIY things. You'd have folks get on their knees and look underneath the car, or ask how easy it is to change the oil oneself... On a modern car, in some cases you cannot even change the oil yourself. Today the modern metro-sexual car buyer doesn't care about any of that. He's looking for how many USB ports are inside the car. Mechanical POS that is full of blinky lights and gadgets.

62 posted on 02/16/2022 8:42:40 AM PST by Red6
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To: Dr. Sivana
Gubbermint at its best.

So you can buy a Smart car, because it's so safe (sarc) and efficient with one (1) person or maximum two (2) in it getting 30 MPG, but the big family carrying six (6) people in a modern SUV getting 21 MPG is out of the regulations which some government bureaucracy dreamed up. The SUV which is todays modern station wagon for the family of the past, is it really so much less efficient when you look at fuel consumption per mile per person?

What is the lifespan of a Suburban? What is the lifespan of a Smart car or a Tesla? Is that factored in, the massive amount of energy going into manufacturing a vehicle and how long they last? Are these new “zero emission” cars (powered by coal, gas and nuclear) so much cleaner because they have no exhaust pipe and we measure pollution only at the exhaust pipe?

Do I have that right?

Government, always thinking for the people. by following the science “For the greater good.”

63 posted on 02/16/2022 8:57:51 AM PST by Red6
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To: Karliner

I just refurbished my old 2003 Nisan Sentra. No gimmicks and chips and computers and few sensor. I’ll drive it until I die. No reason to change.
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Similar here with 2000-2006 Lincoln Towncars, 1980’s Chevy pickups, 1999/2000 Chevy Express vans. If they like their subscription vehicles they can keep their subscription vehicles.....just pay the toll.


64 posted on 02/16/2022 9:07:23 AM PST by JCL3 (As Richard Feynman might have said, this is reality taking precedence over public relations.)
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To: Red6

Right on all counts. The CVTs that are standard on most smaller cars for CAFE reasons have a far more rigorous maintenance schedule, break more than other auto-transmissions, and are more expensive to repair/replace. Oh, and it is a worse driving experience.

Few point out that government regulatory agencies can work at cross-purposes. Improved safety usually means more weight and more gizmos -—> worse mileage, worse efficiency, more emissions.


65 posted on 02/16/2022 9:09:25 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (“...life is very good without Facebook and that we would live very well without Facebook."-B.LeMaire)
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To: Jonty30
I’d not be buying a car from anybody who did this scheme.

That's why I stopped being an Adobe customer.
66 posted on 02/16/2022 9:12:27 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (“...life is very good without Facebook and that we would live very well without Facebook."-B.LeMaire)
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To: Red6

Yes, but those are different because I don’t need pay a monthly fee for those things in order to run my car.

I can do without a radio or airbag, if push comes to shove.


67 posted on 02/16/2022 9:23:13 AM PST by Jonty30 (How can you claim to help me with my healthcare costs when you can't pay for your own?)
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To: DoodleBob

Be a cheapskate.

Buy a base trim.

That solves/prevents a lot of issues.


68 posted on 02/16/2022 9:26:09 AM PST by mewzilla (God bless Canada's Freedom Truckers!)
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To: JCL3

Good on ya. I really don’t need all the computers and sensors. Like my radio/CD, my heater and AC and a good danged engine.

Don’t want a mandated kill switch.


69 posted on 02/16/2022 10:24:36 AM PST by Karliner (Heb 4:12 Rom 8:28 Rev 3, "...This is the end of the beginning." Churchill)
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