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More VC Nurses Blow Whistle on ‘Overwhelming’ Numbers of Heart Attacks, Clotting, Strokes
conejoguardian.org ^ | December 14, 2021 | Joel Kilpatrick

Posted on 12/28/2021 1:26:42 PM PST by ransomnote

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To: COUNTrecount

“Awesome.
Don’t ever show up in my ER. You can treat your MI or stroke yourself.”

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With this response to you quoted above, from a supposed ER doctor no less, it appears your meme is quite reflective of the truth. They will kill certain persons, just because they don’t like what those persons think or write or because those persons see these doctors for what they are doing - denying people early treatment for disease so that they will die.

These are not good people and their actions should be punished to the fullest extent of the law for their crimes.

This is one of those cases where anonymity emboldens supposed health professionals to leak their true character and expose their lack of compassion and even true hatred for patients they may disagree with or see as undesirable.


221 posted on 12/29/2021 4:53:48 AM PST by jacknhoo ( Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: jacknhoo
These are not good people and their actions should be punished to the fullest extent of the law for their crimes.

This is what I've been saying. MDs are every bit as corrupt as lawyers, journalists at CNN, politicians, and used car salesmen. Okay, maybe used car salesmen are slightly less sleazy than the others.

Will they mark you down for covid if you come into the hospital for the extra $13,000, whether the patient has it or not? You bet! Absolutely.

Will they push someone who so much as coughs a couple of times onto a deadly ventilator (for their only purpose is to kill the patient) for that $39,000?

Does the Joe poop in the Pope's den?

222 posted on 12/29/2021 4:59:56 AM PST by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: gas_dr

“Look forward to the insults”

You just did by stating a nurses cannot diagnose. Legally they may not diagnose certain things but they are still humans with a brain. Doctors seem to be putting their diagnostics skills aside for political protocols.


223 posted on 12/29/2021 5:06:50 AM PST by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: Lurker

“What exactly are you a Dr of?”

So far, just covid propaganda.


224 posted on 12/29/2021 5:07:32 AM PST by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: gas_dr

“Diagnosis is beyond the scope of practice for an RN.”

Lots of doctors saying the same thing that she is, so your attempt at dismissing her opinion is silly.


225 posted on 12/29/2021 5:13:02 AM PST by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: gas_dr

“Diagnosis is beyond the scope of practice for an RN.”

Her facility is beyond your scope of practice, yet, here you are commenting on something you know nothing about.


226 posted on 12/29/2021 5:16:06 AM PST by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: Sirius Lee

And, regarding the gene serums, these so-called healthcare professionals act/function like the 7 to 9 years of trial actually happened, when in truth we have 5 to 7 years left and the study is hardly controlled. It’s disgusting.

The very short trial these pharmaceutical companies did, showed the serious and much more than “rare” adverse reactions. Hence, the 75 years to release the rest of the data.

All the while, these subjugated corrupt healthcare professionals deny early treatment and prophylactics while encouraging gene serums that, being administered when they are, force new variants of the virus increasing the odds of untreatable deadly viruses.


227 posted on 12/29/2021 5:37:49 AM PST by jacknhoo ( Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: Pelham

None of the people I referenced had COVID. What tools are you using to say COVID causes clotting but the vaccines don’t?


228 posted on 12/29/2021 5:41:21 AM PST by vivenne (")
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To: ransomnote

bttt


229 posted on 12/29/2021 5:43:15 AM PST by linMcHlp
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To: CodeToad

Wow. You twist yourself into a pretzel to somehow be relevant. Insaid diagnosis is beyond the scope of his practice. He is in fact making a diagnosis. He is then broadcasting his opinion ther others are misdiagnosing.

He is clearly acting beyond the scope of his care. This is a statement that holds true no matter what state it occurs in. Your argument is fallacious, nonsensical and a weak attempt to speak knowledgeably about which you don’t know. But I am glad you are willing to make an ass out of yourself. It shows quite a bit about you.


230 posted on 12/29/2021 6:39:16 AM PST by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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To: jacknhoo

Great response, I was told by a friend, an ER doctor, that it was the most dangerous place in the hospital.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28186008/

Your Health Care May Kill You: Medical Errors
James G Anderson 1 , Kathleen Abrahamson 1
Affiliations

PMID: 28186008

Abstract

Recent studies of medical errors have estimated errors may account for as many as 251,000 deaths annually in the United States (U.S)., making medical errors the third leading cause of death. Error rates are significantly higher in the U.S. than in other developed countries such as Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Germany and the United Kingdom (U.K). At the same time less than 10 percent of medical errors are reported. This study describes the results of an investigation of the effectiveness of the implementation of the MEDMARX Medication Error Reporting system in 25 hospitals in Pennsylvania. Data were collected on 17,000 errors reported by participating hospitals over a 12-month period. Latent growth curve analysis revealed that reporting of errors by health care providers increased significantly over the four quarters. At the same time, the proportion of corrective actions taken by the hospitals remained relatively constant over the 12 months. A simulation model was constructed to examine the effect of potential organizational changes resulting from error reporting. Four interventions were simulated. The results suggest that improving patient safety requires more than voluntary reporting. Organizational changes need to be implemented and institutionalized as well.


231 posted on 12/29/2021 7:44:44 AM PST by COUNTrecount ("I've always won, and I'm going to continue to win. And that's the way it is." -- Donald Trump)
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To: gas_dr

“He is clearly acting beyond the scope of his care. “

Sorry, Sunshine, but you continue to impugn others in a vain attempt to send a pro-vax propaganda position. You make a mockery of yourself. I don’t do that.


232 posted on 12/29/2021 9:56:07 AM PST by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: David Chase

I guess I’m old at heart, but thankfully not as old at heart as some poor schlub who got duped into being a guinea pig for the vaccine police...lol

Anyways, yes I do see what you are saying and it’s a valid point. However, we are talking about 8 cases in my world of healthy, fit, males in their 30’s and 40’s dropping dead from cardiovascular problems out of nowhere. I’m not including the ones in their 60’s and up, which would up the cases in just my circle to 10 people. That’s all in the past 6 months.

It’s anecdotal, yes. However, your side has fudged numbers, played fast and loose with proper reporting, and made every effort to make it IMPOSSIBLE for us to use anything else. You poisoned the data well, now all we have are anecdotes. At least here in this country. In other, apparently less medically corrupt countries, we are seeing what appears to be more reliable data and it is alarming.

COULD it happen from laundry detergent? I suppose anything is possible. But that takes some serious mental gymastics to make that case. The fact that you want to go there says to me that you’ll really do or say anything to try and eliminate your opposition.


233 posted on 12/29/2021 10:32:28 AM PST by perfect_rovian_storm
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To: CodeToad

Ok
Well if you are unfamiliar with the law and scope of practice so be it. You are just so I need of being correct or relevant about something toj choose to declare I am incorrect on something factual.

If you had read which it it appears right toj cannot I said he is expressing an opinion. He is not a whistleblower because that would require inside knowledge as to fraud. If he is whistleblowing on physicians in his hospital he cannot be a so called whistleblower because he disagrees a diagnosis. So unless he is accusing someone of fraud he is expressing an opinion. Much like you. And both your opinions are incorrect.

Yours is incorrect because as I said this RN is acting beyond the scope of his practice by stating for a fact that there are misdiagnoses. He is not qualified to make a diagnosis by license or education

Your like a four year old. You think just because you don’t like what’s said you can pound your fists and say everyone is wrong.

Stick to coding.


234 posted on 12/29/2021 10:34:41 AM PST by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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To: gas_dr

You claim you patients die of covid. That’s all we need to know: Your patient die from your malpractice.


235 posted on 12/29/2021 10:45:23 AM PST by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: JamesP81

If the vaccines killed 10 million people in the course of an hour, they wouldn’t even bother looking to see if the vaccine caused it.

The headline would read, “Miss-timed their shot by THAT much”


236 posted on 12/29/2021 10:53:44 AM PST by Glad2bnuts ((“If there are no absolutes by which to judge society, then society is absolute.” Francis Schaeffer,)
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To: ransomnote

Fake news


237 posted on 12/29/2021 10:56:08 AM PST by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) California needs Zorro to destroy the neoNobility corruption)
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To: gas_dr

“The scope of care” is just a word phrase for it is not in their job description. Like a roofer cannot diagnose a leak in the roof, but when the doctor tells them to build that roof and with what kind of roofing...... GET IT?


238 posted on 12/29/2021 10:57:54 AM PST by Glad2bnuts ((“If there are no absolutes by which to judge society, then society is absolute.” Francis Schaeffer,)
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To: Glad2bnuts

No, the scope of care is a legal definition what what a licensee is allowed to do and not allowed to do. It is not just a word phrase — its a condition of the license which is required for a job...

GET IT?


239 posted on 12/29/2021 11:01:11 AM PST by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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To: gas_dr

There isn’t really a middle ground, no.

Your side has threatened people’s livelihood. Your side has corrupted usable data by playing fast and loose with case reporting. Your side has repeatedly lied. Your side has banned discussion of these matters from almost anywhere online. Your side has engaged in information warfare, hiding information from people and preventing rational discussions from taking place.

I don’t think this is political at all. Just because you guys started using the worst tactics of Democrat operatives doesn’t mean it’s a political issue. Many ‘conservatives’ placed their trust in folks like you. It remains to be seen how that works out for them. In the process, however, the credibility of much of your industry has been shattered in the eyes of many.

Normally, I’m all for making peace and finding a middle ground, but I don’t really see one here. Besides, the only middle ground you guys would ever want is complete capitulation from people who have zero trust in you. That is highly unlikely.


240 posted on 12/29/2021 11:06:41 AM PST by perfect_rovian_storm
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