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Max Holland - The Zapruder Film Reconsidered
Roosevelt House Public Policy Institute Speech ^ | December 3, 2015 | Max Holland

Posted on 12/04/2021 4:50:53 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew

Like the sinking of the Titanic, the assassination of John F. Kennedy has been a subject of fascination for me over the years.

I remember perusing Mom and Dad's copy of the Warren Commision Report with great interest. I remember, earlier than that, repeatedly combing through the National Geographic issue shortly after the assassination and developing a crush on Caroline Kennedy who would have been about my age at that time. In Jr. High School I wrote a short paper based on Mark Lane's assertion of a second assassin or more and conspiracies surrounding the event.

The presentation given here has a way of objectively questioning dependence on the Zapruder film as definitive of the sequence of what happened. Holland pins down the timing at closer to 11 seconds, rather than 6 seconds using sound reasoning.

It takes time to watch, but is worth it. On a side note, this past summer I had the privilege of walking laps around the inside of Pembroke Mall in Virginia Beach with Secret Service Agent Win Lawson's widow (during vacation accompanying my father-in-law for his daily walking exercise). Win is mentioned at some length here, and his stated conviction that there was a gap between the first shot and remaining shots is vindicated by Holland's research.


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: conspiracytheory; dealeyplaza; jfk; kennedyassassination; marklane; maxholland; roosevelthouse; zapruder; zapruderfilm
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1 posted on 12/04/2021 4:50:53 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Thank you. Good post.


2 posted on 12/04/2021 4:58:00 PM PST by FryingPan101 (Dittohead- Circa 1989)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

let it go. he’s dead, Jim


3 posted on 12/04/2021 5:05:00 PM PST by devane617 (RUN FOR LOCAL ELECTED OFFICE! COUNCIL,SCHOOL BOARD, ETC.)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Time and life does not permit me to watch this at this time. Can we get a cliff notes version of the conclusions?


4 posted on 12/04/2021 5:05:02 PM PST by Michael.SF. (Never do anything illegal, when you are doing something illegal. )
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Poppy Bush was on the grassy knoll!


5 posted on 12/04/2021 5:08:58 PM PST by Dr. Ursus
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To: Fester Chugabrew

I wonder if he still has a crush on Caroline “air head “ Kennedy?


6 posted on 12/04/2021 5:09:14 PM PST by HighSierra5 (The only way you know a commie is lying is when they open their pieholes.p)
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To: devane617

RE: let it go. he’s dead, Jim////////

Sorry, I refuse to let it go. The origin of today’s decline of America is from 1963. The despicable FBI and execrable CIA and our two major totally corrupt parties, in it for their own gain of power and wealth and never doing what we tell them to do (except for Donald Trump, God bless him).

The deliberately withheld film by corrupt FBI-——
By Justin Wm. Moyer
November 24, 2015 in the Washington Post (yes, I hate the WaPo but here is the material:)

“....has never been returned to its owner.

“The film is a mirror image of the Zapruder film from the other side of Dealey Plaza,” Farris Rookstool III, a former FBI analyst in Dallas, told the Guardian.

“According to the Warren Commission, the Nix film is nearly as important as the Zapruder film, yet the public is mainly unaware of its significance,” the lawsuit filed in U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C., by Gayle Nix Jackson, Nix’s granddaughter, read. And: “Despite its significance and duty by the Government and its agencies who last possessed it to preserve the original Nix film and to turn it over the Plaintiff, it remains missing, stolen or destroyed.”


7 posted on 12/04/2021 5:12:37 PM PST by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

The Deep State is willing and able to take out presidents which they deem to be a threat. I can think of one or two times this has actually happened.


8 posted on 12/04/2021 5:15:09 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Alec Baldwin has killed more people than the Jan 6 protesters. And he will serve less jail time.)
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To: Michael.SF.

To sum it up, Hi! I’m somebody no one heard of who watched the Zapruder film 9347 times and now I’m an expert. I notice something that no one else did that comes no closer to solving the mystery. Its all in my book JFK - He’s Still Dead! And It Will Cost You $24.97 To Find Out Why No One Cares Anymore!


9 posted on 12/04/2021 5:15:20 PM PST by The MAGA-Deplorian (. Democrats are lawless because Republicans are ball-less!)
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To: frank ballenger
Much like the 9/11 Pentagon videos, the Apollo 11 telemetry data, Apollo 11 original video, and Apollo 11 blue prints they are all lost or destroyed because they were of no historical value. (If you believe that you probably also believe what we are being told about COVID)
10 posted on 12/04/2021 5:15:33 PM PST by LukeL
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To: frank ballenger

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/529754-stone-documentary-jfk-cuba/

Last week, Oliver Stone premiered his new documentary about the Kennedy assassination titled ‘JFK Revisited: Through the Looking Glass’, at the Cannes festival.


11 posted on 12/04/2021 5:30:33 PM PST by Dr. Scarpetta ( )
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To: ClearCase_guy

has actually happened.

……that we know of, so far…..

Facts mean nothing anymore.


12 posted on 12/04/2021 5:31:19 PM PST by drSteve78 (Je suis Deplorable. STILL)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

If he was about Caroline Kennedy’s age at that time, he’s probably still about her age now.


13 posted on 12/04/2021 5:33:35 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Read the book Fatal Error by Menninger, a ballistics expert.

There were two different bullets types that hit JFK that caused two different types of injury. The first shot fired by Oswald hit the pavement. The second went through JFK’s neck area - some argue he could have survived that shot. The shot that exploded his head was a different bullet from a different gun. That gun is believed to be from the Secret Service detail immediately behind the POTUS vehicle. Agent grabbed the gun after he heard the shot from the floor of the car. Pulled the trigger as he was raising the gun. Secret Service won’t confirm anything, including the name of the agent even though there is a photo of him in the car behind the POTUS.

To me this makes a lot of sense based on the ballistics. Hence, there are at least two major two scandals that would rock the federal givernment. The 1st is that the public report by Warren Commission with its very distinguished names ... either lied, purposely ignored evidence, or were grossly incompetent. It was “best” for the nation [”givernment”] to pin everything on Oswald who was [conveniently] executed by a mafiaso with terminal cancer and brain issues. To acknowledge that the SS fired the definitely fatal shot would be a game changer.

The second scandal is CIA’s connections to Oswald. The Commission may be implicated here or was compromised by the CIA as well.

This might explain why final disclosure won’t be made until everyone living in 1963 is no longer breathing and above ground.


14 posted on 12/04/2021 5:35:23 PM PST by Susquehanna Patriot
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To: Susquehanna Patriot

I never thought about it that way. The cavitation from the neck wound was rather small, probably indicating a FMJ, while Kennedy’s head wound could have been from a hollow point or soft tipped round.


15 posted on 12/04/2021 5:40:23 PM PST by LukeL
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To: HighSierra5

Um, that would be me. I had a crush on Caroline Kennedy at the age of five. It has since dissipated, but may be rekindled if she is willing to cook for me.


16 posted on 12/04/2021 5:55:38 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew (No nation that sanctions the wholesale slaughter of its unborn citizens is fit to endure.)
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To: Susquehanna Patriot

The CIA never learns- Tamerlane Tasrnaev!


17 posted on 12/04/2021 5:57:03 PM PST by Dr. Ursus
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To: Fester Chugabrew

anybody that is a gun guy and is in possession of the demonstrated facts knows that Kennedy was not shot by the rifle and bullets in question. I have been at the window at the 6th floor.

Any shooter would have taken the *much* easier shot BEFORE the turn. Why? because as the target directly approaches you it is getting bigger, and there is no left/right deviation. You literally are in a perfect position for an easy shot.

The *undisputed* angle and timing would NEVER be your choice. the angle, and the additional left/right motion make the shot really tough, and combine that with supposedly 3 quick shots from a bolt-action rifle with a questionable low power scope.

BTW, when tested, the scope was misaligned, they had to resight the scope to be able to hit a test target! And a almost pristine bullet did all that work, dropped out on a stretcher in the Parkland hospital? What? If you believe that, I hope you never are on a jury. You would have found Rittenhouse guilty.


18 posted on 12/04/2021 5:58:23 PM PST by BereanBrain
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To: Dr. Ursus

Yes, Poppy admitted he was there but claimed he didn’t remember why........ Coincidence. Ha.


19 posted on 12/04/2021 5:59:51 PM PST by NEBO (When Government controls decisions for us we are being treated as less than a human being.)
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To: LukeL

Bullets used by Oswald would not have caused the head wound - type of injury. Head wound (different) bullet came from a different angle too that Oswald would not have been able to make. The two gunman theory seems correct based on Menninger’s analysis - it just wasn’t a shadowy figure on a grassy knoll.

Menninger I understand has passed away, and so too has the SS agent who fired the head shot. If I am not mistaken, SS would not confirm the agent even though he was identified in a public picture standing up in the car behind JFK. SS refused to cooperate on virtually everything. Now the physical threats made by the SS / fedral givernment towards the Dallas medical examiner who had jurisdiction over the matter (JFK’s body) makes more sense. The SS knew what was going down and needed to get JFK out of there asap. The SS succeeded and the media was filled with a federalism issue. While important, was more of a decoy in my opinion that the SS welcomed. “SS [Accidentally] Kills POTUS They Are Supposed to Protect” ... I don’t think we can imagine how history would have changed had that been the headline.


20 posted on 12/04/2021 6:00:36 PM PST by Susquehanna Patriot
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