Vaccinated English adults under 60 are dying at twice the rate of unvaccinated people the same age

Geller Report ^ | 11/24/2021 | Alex Berenson

[fireman15]

Vaccinated English adults under 60 are dying at twice the rate of unvaccinated people the same age And have been for six months. This chart may seem unbelievable or impossible, but it’s correct, based on weekly data from the British government.

The brown line represents weekly deaths from all causes of vaccinated people aged 10-59, per 100,000 people.

The blue line represents weekly deaths from all causes of unvaccinated people per 100,000 in the same age range.

I have checked the underlying dataset myself and this graph is correct. Vaccinated people under 60 are twice as likely to die as unvaccinated people. And overall deaths in Britain are running well above normal.

I don’t know how to explain this other than vaccine-caused mortality.

The basic data is available here, download the Excel file and see table 4:

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/deathsbyvaccinationstatusengland

[Republican Wildcat]

Or maybe, if you consider it fear porn, post stats and data the shows it’s not true.

The data itself shows it isn't true. The vaccinated group would be weighted more heavily toward the older side of the 10-59 age range. The unvaccinated group would be weighted heavier to the lower end of the 10-59 age range. Do you really not get the difference, and how in using them together as though that is a valid comparison is a bogus narrative? Do you really not?

Stop this nonsense already.

[Pelham]

"So wake up! You have put your faith in a bunch of liars with political and/or profit related agendas."

Biden and Pelosi used to say stuff exactly like that. This other guy never did:

Remarks by President Trump at the Operation Warp Speed Vaccine Summit

I’m honored to welcome doctors, scientists, industry executives, and state and local leaders to our historic Operation Warp Speed Vaccine Summit. It’s been some journey for all of us. It’s been an incredible success.

We’re grateful to be joined by Vice President Mike Pence, who has done an absolutely incredible job on the Coronavirus Task Force. Mike, thank you. Stand up, Mike. Great job.

We’re here to discuss a monumental national achievement. From the instant the coronavirus invaded our shores, we raced into action to develop a safe and effective vaccine at breakneck speed. It would normally take five years, six years, seven years, or even more. In order to achieve this goal, we harnessed the full power of government, the genius of American scientists, and the might of American industry to save millions and millions of lives all over the world. We’re just days away from authorization from the FDA, and we’re pushing them hard, at which point we will immediately begin mass distribution.

Before Operation Warp Speed, the typical timeframe for development and approval, as you know, could be infinity. And we were very, very happy that we were able to get things done at a level that nobody has ever seen before. The gold standard vaccine has been done in less than nine months.

On behalf of the entire nation, I want to thank everyone here today who has been involved in this extraordinary American initiative. I also want to recognize members of my administration who have worked tirelessly in this effort

https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-operation-warp-speed-vaccine-summit/

[bagster]

Wow many threads of this fear porn will be posted?

As many times as it takes to get through to you mutants. Do you find it troubling that so many different people are now saying the same thing? Overwhelming your indoctrination?

Enjoy your cruise.

[fireman15]

I can't believe how so many people out there can fall for this garbage.

We are fortunate to have so many examples in this forum of people who claim to be conservatives who are either trolls or just plain extremely fearful and gullible. I worked as a senior Hazmat Team Leader for many years. I have taken ten times more vaccines than most of the people here who still believe these ill-fated experimental “vaccines” have good efficacy against the current strains. I never experienced any ill effects from any of the vaccines that I took nor was I aware of any of my subordinates or co-workers having any serious problems.

But just within my own family... my little brother in his mid 50s suffered from a swollen and inflamed heart that ended his career as an airline pilot. My mother went from a healthy and active person who went to the YMCA and long walks with my father every day to an invalid. These were both problems directly and completely from the “vaccines” and not Covid.

And I know personally know others who have suffered equally devastating injuries; if the rates of injury and death were anywhere close to normal my personal experience would be highly improbable. Even with the incidence of death and injury being much greater than all other vaccines combined in the last 30 years my experience is still almost unbelievable. But what is even more unbelievable is that so many politicians, the media, and even people here make excuses and want to allow the authorities to keep forcing this failed experiment on the public.

[bagster]

As mortality rates are higher for older people, this will increase the mortality rates for the vaccinated population compared to the unvaccinated population."

But Mojo. The vaccinated ain't sposed to die. They sposed to LIIIIIIIVE!!!!

Remember 'save and effective'? I do.

#FormerlyKnownAsMojo

[alexander_busek]

The data itself shows it isn't true. The vaccinated group would be weighted more heavily toward the older side of the 10-59 age range. The unvaccinated group would be weighted heavier to the lower end of the 10-59 age range.

Clever use of the Subjunctive Mood there, Republican Wildcat!

Two can play at that game:

The vaxxed group might be two or three years older than the unvaxxed group. Their median age might be, say, 39 years - as opposed to, say, 37 years for the unvaxxed group.

Do you honestly think that an age-difference of a mere two or three years justifies a doubling of the mortality rate?

Regards,

[bagster]

I gave up long time ago trying to teach people common sense. One either has it or not. Common sense can not be taught.

Enjoy your cruise.

#WorstTeacherEver

[SoConPubbie]

Wow many threads of this fear porn will be posted?

What's wrong FRiend?

Afraid of the truth about the Clot-Shots?

[bagster]

As bad as the MSM fact checkers are they're light years ahead of the grifter Berenson.

Awesome. Now you're defending the fake news derp MSM. You're about to go full retard, Mojo. Never go full retard.

The people who put out the study say why the 10-59 age group has higher all cause mortality. It's because on average they're older.

Here's some science for ya, Mojo. the 10-59 age bracket contains people 10-20, 21-30, 30-40, and 40-50. Why are you making it sound like 10-59 is only old people?

Rhetorical question. I know.

#FormerlyKnownAsMojo

[Data Miner]

That is an interesting comment. It would be nice if they broke all the age groups up like they did for the older groups then we could see that for ourselves.

I actually went to the ONS website, downloaded the file and graphed it out for myself. What these plots exclude is the January to March data which had an interestingly low initial rate of death for the vaccinated that then explodes at the same time the overall death rate is dropping as the winter Covid spike fades. The low death rate was when priority should be given to the most susceptible and the death rate spikes far above what is shown in this chart when the vaccine reaches 10 to 20% range. These plots start in mid March when vaccinations penetrated to 30% of the population.

The ratio of vaccinated to unvaccinated deaths fluctuated in the 1.5 to 2.0 range for much of the time between June and September while vaccination rate went from 65 to 73% of the population in that age range. However the last data point spikes up to a ratio of 2.3 right around the time they approved the vaccine for children there.

A finer demographic breakdown would be nice. I accept that a disproportionate number of the unvaccinated are going to be in that 10-18 range that weren’t being given the vaccine in most of this period. It looks like they are issuing updates every to to three months so I will keep my eyes open for the next one that should come soon and see what the eligibility for the youngest end of this range does to the death rates.

[fireman15]

As many times as it takes to get through to you mutants. Do you find it troubling that so many different people are now saying the same thing? Overwhelming your indoctrination?

Enjoy your cruise.

I had a little fun with Entropy the other day... he/she never responded.

Entropy12 said:

The jabs have helped me avoid covid symptoms altogether for almost 9 months now. And will board Royal Caribbean ship coming Monday for 2nd cruise in 2 months. Thank God unvaxxed people are not allowed to enter the ship. All non-vaxxed, enjoy your basement.

I responded:

There seems be some misinterpretation of what you are trying to say. I know that you are actually showing your true concern for others despite the way it is being interpreted by some. Let me translate for others here who are having difficulty. What Entropy12 is really saying:

The jabs have helped me become an asymptomatic super spreader emitting 251 times the amount of viral particulate than my unvaxxed associates. I will board a Royal Caribbean ship this coming Monday for my 2nd super spreader cruise in 2 months. Thank God unvaxxed people are not allowed to enter the ship because they would most certainly become seriously ill after being exposed to people in enclosed spaces emitting huge amounts of viral particulate. Having previously been afflicted by syphilis and leprosy I found that cruises which only allowed the afflicted... to be a great comfort. Bless you all.

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/vaccinated-healthcare-workers-threat-unvaccinated-patients-co-workers/

entropy12 getting ready for her cruise.

Sadly everyone that I know who goes on as many cruises as Entropy12 does are seriously obese and at great risk of having serious problems or dying from Covid. entropy12 apparently believes that the experimental "vaccines" make him/her safe from this fate. Sadly this is not the case. And even though his/her chance is still low when compared to the real killer illnesses such as cancer and heart disease. He/she still has a false sense of security.

[Data Miner]

The UK Office of National Statistics put the data out with the funky 10-59 age range group. I find it strange considering they broke out the 60-69, 70-79 and 80+ as different groups. It makes for a convenient reason for the disparity between the vaccination groups but it is strange and can also be hiding other issues.

[cranked]

Say it ain’t so.
So much for the ‘pandemic of the unvaccinated’ huh? /s

[bagster]

Berenson has figured out how to play Pied Piper to the gullible who won't bother to check his claims. Always the same excuse grift.

Ironical.

[fireman15]

“It's been an incredible success.” Pelham quoting President Trump talking about the vaccines nearly two years ago.

I still love him as do most here. But President Trump's Achille’s heel when it comes to his future in politics is that it has taken him a long time to acknowledge publicly that he put his faith in the wrong people when it came to Covid. Maybe that is just not his style. Do any of you pro Covid vaxxers recall when he brought it up at during his speech in Alabama a couple months ago? He was booed. We have not heard as much about it from him since and my guess is that he will avoid the subject more and more as the truth filters out.

[bagster]

Stop this nonsense already.

[bagster]

We’re grateful to be joined by Vice President Mike Pence, who has done an absolutely incredible job on the Coronavirus Task Force. Mike, thank you. Stand up, Mike. Great job.

Oh, Pelham. What am I gonna do with you.

[Political Junkie Too]

"9. For the 10-59 age group, the vaccinated population will on average be older than the unvaccinated population due to age-based prioritisation in the vaccine roll-out. As mortality rates are higher for older people, this will increase the mortality rates for the vaccinated population compared to the unvaccinated population."

Can you explain three things for me?

1. This chart is for the range of 10-59. Within that range, can you define "older people?" I thought the "older people," in the context of COVID-19, were those who were 65+. Has that changed? Are we defining down what it means to be "older people" in the context of COVID-19?
2. I know this is for the British people, but I thought that the "age-based prioritization" started with the elderly in senior care facilities, mostly the 70+ population that would be outside of the charted data. Regardless, the effect of early prioritization was largely over by the May timeframe, when vaccinations were made available to the general population. Yet that is the point where the chart plateaus, implying that the vaccination rate has reached its maximum level. Do you think that "early prioritization" had such an ongoing effect?
3. I notice that during the March-May timeframe, the unvaccinated death rate slowly declined while the vaccinated death rate rapidly grew, both plateauing from May onward. Doesn't this imply that the vaccinated people were leaving the unvaccinated population during the March-May timeframe, causing the unvaccinated death rate to decline as that population was reduced? Shouldn't the death rate from "other than COVID" (not charted) be the same in both populations? Was the vaccinated population death rate larger because the population was simply larger, or were the vaccinated dying of COVID-19 more frequently than the unvaccinated?

-PJ

[bagster]

Haha. That was a nice piece of work. And very kind of you to interpret his words, as he seems only semi-literate.

[miserare]

Are you scared yet?