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Vaccinated English adults under 60 are dying at twice the rate of unvaccinated people the same age
Geller Report ^ | 11/24/2021 | Alex Berenson

Posted on 11/24/2021 7:50:52 PM PST by fireman15

Vaccinated English adults under 60 are dying at twice the rate of unvaccinated people the same age And have been for six months. This chart may seem unbelievable or impossible, but it’s correct, based on weekly data from the British government.

The brown line represents weekly deaths from all causes of vaccinated people aged 10-59, per 100,000 people.

The blue line represents weekly deaths from all causes of unvaccinated people per 100,000 in the same age range.

I have checked the underlying dataset myself and this graph is correct. Vaccinated people under 60 are twice as likely to die as unvaccinated people. And overall deaths in Britain are running well above normal.

I don’t know how to explain this other than vaccine-caused mortality.

The basic data is available here, download the Excel file and see table 4:

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/deathsbyvaccinationstatusengland

(Excerpt) Read more at gellerreport.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Health/Medicine; Science
KEYWORDS: 1vaxxedbrits; 2deathratehigher; acorrectdataset; antivaxporn; antivaxxcult; covid; creativemath; deathrate; ifitsontheinternet; itmustbetrue; manipulateddata; newmath; showsitsworking; thisisawkward; vaccination; vaxxer
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To: roving
You would call Jesus Christ himself a grifter if he produced charts showing the vaxxed are dying at a greater rate.

The people who produced the data in those charts explained why they don't mean what Berenson says they do.

Because young people weren't eligible for the vaccines the average age of the vaccinated people in the 10-59 cohort is older than the unvaccinated.

Older people have higher all-cause mortality rates.

Berenson knows this (or should) because it was a footnote to the data set he says he reviewed.

The good news is JC wouldn't do what Berenson did so we don't have to worry about calling him names.

21 posted on 11/24/2021 8:42:01 PM PST by semimojo
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To: fireman15

If you were under 60 why might you be more likely to get vaccinated against COVID?

Duh.


22 posted on 11/24/2021 8:43:14 PM PST by nagant
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To: nagant

If you were under 60 why might you be more likely to get vaccinated against COVID?

Duh.


Um....tyrannical mandates, to keep jobs?

Duh.


23 posted on 11/24/2021 8:46:05 PM PST by Jane Long (What we were told was a “conspiracy theory” in 2020 is now fact. 🙏🏻 Ps 33:12 )
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To: fireman15
...the best you can do is make idiotic complaints...

See post #8.

24 posted on 11/24/2021 8:47:53 PM PST by semimojo
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To: fireman15

Covid is the tyrants favorite tool. It seems they’ve found something that will allow them to retain control over the populace in perpetuity.
It’s even got many “rational” minded people willing to help. Whenever they need more power, cook up another variant, stir up fake increased case numbers and deaths; and BAM! You’ve got your control back.
I can’t believe how so many people out there can fall for this garbage.


25 posted on 11/24/2021 8:51:40 PM PST by vpintheak (Live free, or die!)
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To: nagant

I am not really sure what your point is? The other day an article was posted by the pro-vaxxers informing us that young people and children benefitted the most from the “vaccines”. Anyone who believes that is hopelessly deluded.

But whatever. I have several Nagant pistols, and several Mosin Nagant rifles. We have had a lot of fun with them. I reload brass for them. It saves a lot of money on the pistol cartridges. I have a lot of surplus rifle cartridges, but the reloaded brass with boxer primers is a little easier on the barrels.


26 posted on 11/24/2021 8:52:20 PM PST by fireman15
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To: vpintheak

Agree.

I saw a somewhat young father wearing a mask, while driving, with his young son.

And, this is in TX, where we haven’t worn masks, ANYWHERE, for months.


27 posted on 11/24/2021 8:53:53 PM PST by Jane Long (What we were told was a “conspiracy theory” in 2020 is now fact. 🙏🏻 Ps 33:12 )
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To: fireman15

The chart doesn’t have the data needed to make any conclusion about the vaccine factor, because it doesn’t quantify and correct for the median age disparity between the two groups.

The 10-59 vaccinated group has a median age significantly higher than the 10-59 unvaccinated group. Consider the implication for death rate.


28 posted on 11/24/2021 8:57:50 PM PST by JustaTech (A mind is a terrible thing)
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To: semimojo
Sorry you are barking up the wrong tree. The foot note you referenced is speculative and irrelevant. If the authorities wanted to demonstrate this, they would have included a further break down in the numbers. The reason that they did not is because it would have been even less palatable for those such as yourself. Likely the death rate in younger age groups compared directly between vaxxed and unvaxxed is even more dramatic. So wake up! You have put your faith in a bunch of liars with political and/or profit related agendas.
29 posted on 11/24/2021 9:02:06 PM PST by fireman15
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To: JustaTech

That could be the case, but why did they not post the break down when they obviously had the data? Did you ever ponder on that one? The break down would have shown even worse revelations. They were not just lazy; they are hiding something.


30 posted on 11/24/2021 9:05:07 PM PST by fireman15
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To: libh8er

Are you suggesting that the vaccinated are more likely to fall down the stairs? What is statistically important here is the relative death rate. Something is killing the vaccinated at a rate approaching twice the unvaccinated.


31 posted on 11/24/2021 9:05:49 PM PST by Data Miner
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To: vpintheak

Way back in the early days of COVID, my BS meter went up when all these different companies made TV commercials showing people in masks. Why would showing people in masks make a consumer want to buy a particular product over their competitor’s product?

The fact that I was seeing this in practically every commercial made it obvious that big business was all in on stirring up the fear, along with government and the media.

That’s all I needed to make me not trust anything I was hearing from this giant, multiheaded PR snake. Not getting vaxxed was a no brainer.


32 posted on 11/24/2021 9:10:20 PM PST by The Fop (God Bless Donald Trump, Frank Sinatra, Joacn Rivers, and the Fightin' Rat Pack Wing of the GOP)
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To: JustaTech
"The 10-59 vaccinated group has a median age significantly higher than the 10-59 unvaccinated group. Consider the implication for death rate."

This probably explains it but they do a great disservice by not showing the 10-20, 20-30, breakouts. If they did that everything would have been very clear and this would not be an issue.

33 posted on 11/24/2021 9:10:58 PM PST by Neanderthal (Let's go, Brandon!)
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To: fireman15
So wake up! You have put your faith in a bunch of liars with political and/or profit related agendas.

I'm becoming more and more convinced that the vax pushers really are "on the clock". Big Pharma has so much money that they can afford to pay people to be their shills literally everywhere.
34 posted on 11/24/2021 9:14:08 PM PST by Antoninus (Republicans are all honorable men.)
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To: roving; semimojo
Always the same excuse.

Berenson has figured out how to play Pied Piper to the gullible who won't bother to check his claims. Always the same excuse grift.

35 posted on 11/24/2021 9:14:44 PM PST by Pelham (Q is short for quack)
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To: entropy12

Gotta keep that narrative going!

And across the pond with a vaccine that isn’t even used in the United States.


36 posted on 11/24/2021 9:18:27 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: The Fop

Us pure bloods are gonna have to be sticking together really soon!


37 posted on 11/24/2021 9:22:10 PM PST by vpintheak (Live free, or die!)
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To: fireman15
It looks like the people here who spend every day making excuses for the dismal efficacy of the experimental "vaccines" are going to have to do some more cutting and pasting from the MSM fact checkers.... Get to it boys and girls.

There is no "same age" about this - 10-59? Most of the unvaccinated would be weighted very heavily on the younger side of that age range who die at much lower rate than the higher vaccinated in the 10-59 age range that would be much heavier on the vaccinated side - the death rate is much higher for those older than hose younger. You slap those stats together to create a phony narrative.

Learn math. Learn data.

38 posted on 11/24/2021 9:26:34 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Neanderthal

You think that isn’t deliberate? They go with “under 60” to create the impression of youth and that there is a total consistency of health and vaccination rates of both sets of 10-59 adults. It is complete nonsense.


39 posted on 11/24/2021 9:28:59 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: semimojo
Other people told me you are a shill for the left. I know the left is pushing vaccines, and here you are defending them. I know the left wants to censor everybody else, and you've always defended that.

I can grasp the idea that everyone may see things differently, but I can see how people could get the impression that you are on the other side.

I usually don't run across your commentary. I guess we simply frequent different threads most of the time.

40 posted on 11/24/2021 9:30:37 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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