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CDC Director Says Vaccines 'Can't Prevent Transmission'; Dr. Fauci Says 'It's Too Early To Tell' On Holiday Gatherings
Libertarian Hub ^ | 10/03/2021 | Tyler Durden

Posted on 10/03/2021 6:18:42 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

CDC Director Rochelle Walensky said last week that Covid vaccines 'can't prevent transmission' anymore despite working "exceptionally well."

"Our vaccines are working exceptionally well. They continue to work well for Delta with regard to severe illness and death - they prevent it, but what they can't do anymore is prevent transmission," she told CNN's Wolf Blitzer. "So if you’re going home to someone who is not vaccinated…I would suggest you wear a mask in public indoor settings," she continued.

CDC director Rochelle Walensky says that the vaccine *cannot* prevent transmission. So why are all these Pro-Vaxxers saying that it can? pic.twitter.com/8aaDTh8N3T — Anthony Brian Logan (ABL) 🇺🇸 (@ANTHONYBLOGAN) October 2, 2021

That said, Walensky may have actually undersold the vaccines. According to a preprint study by British scientists at the University of Oxford, people who have taken AstraAeneca's Covid-19 vaccine and contract the virus are just as likely to spread it as the unvaccinated after 90 days, while the Pfizer vaccine's ability to reduce transmission is "substantially" reduced over the same period, according to the records of nearly 150,000 contacts that were traced from approximately 100,000 initial cases.

As NBC News reports, "The samples included people who were fully or partially vaccinated with either the Pfizer-BioNTech (BNT162b2) or the AstraZeneca (ChAd0x1) vaccines, as well as people who were unvaccinated. The researchers then looked at how the vaccines affected the spread of the virus if a person had a breakthrough infection with either the alpha variant or the highly contagious delta variant." Of note, both vaccines were more effective against the Alpha variant.

Initially, both vaccines reduced transmission from a fully vaccinated person to a given contact. Specifically, if a vaccinated individual is infected with the Delta variant, a given contact was 65% less likely to test positive if the infected had two doses of the Pfizer vaccine, and 36% less likely with AstraZeneca.

Yet, buried in the 14th paragraph of the report, NBC News notes:

The new study showed that protection against transmission seemed to wane over time, however. After three months, people who had breakthrough infections after being vaccinated with AstraZeneca were just as likely to spread the delta variant as the unvaccinated. While protection against transmission decreased in people who had received the Pfizer vaccine, there was still a benefit when compared with people who were unvaccinated.

In the words of the researchers, the Pfizer vaccine's ability to reduce transmission was 'substantially' lower by week 12.

They also found that while the Pfizer vaccine was superior in reducing transmission to contacts, protection against Covid-19 in the first place waned faster vs. AstraZeneca.

As for where people are coming into contact with the infected - the study found that 70% occurred within households, 10% from household visitors, 10% at 'events and activities,' and 10% at work or school.

What does this mean for the holidays? According to Dr. Anthony Fauci, it's 'too soon to tell' whether people can safely gather together for Christmas this year.

HOLIDAY LOOKAHEAD: "It’s just too soon to tell," Dr. Anthony Fauci tells @margbrennan when pressed whether or not people can safely gather together for Christmas this year.

He says the country should instead concentrate on getting COVID cases down. pic.twitter.com/ey0ft9aCOh

— Face The Nation (@FaceTheNation) October 3, 2021

But you can "safely gather" 1000s for the Met gala or 900 at Obama's birthday party? Fuck this guy. https://t.co/cRdLGaupap — Stalingrad & Poorski (@Stalingrad_Poor) October 3, 2021

And why aren't US officials acknowledging naturally acquired immunity?

The big issue with natural immunity is that nobody gets rich. — Robert J. O'Neill (@mchooyah) October 2, 2021

With all the mixed messaging, is anyone really shocked at the widespread 'vaccine hesitancy' among healthcare professionals?

As the Babylon Bee jokes:



TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: cdc; fauci; transmission; vaccination; vaxnowork
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1 posted on 10/03/2021 6:18:42 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

If as Rochelle Walensky says, vaccines can’t prevent transmission, what’s the point of a vaccine mandate?

If a vaccinated person can transmit the virus to either a vaccinated or unvaccinated person, then the mandates are useless.


2 posted on 10/03/2021 6:20:03 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I guess they didn’t see the fact that the vaccines don’t stop the transmission of the virus, as very important. Otherwise they would have said something, as this seems rather important. So, the whole demagogic freakout regarding COVID and the option or mandate regarding vaccines, was mere merde.


3 posted on 10/03/2021 6:22:42 PM PDT by Richard Axtell (As if.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Anyone who listens to this administration, this CDC, the government, or this media, shows themselves to be completely brainless drones.


4 posted on 10/03/2021 6:23:46 PM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists are The Droplet of Sewage in a gallon of ultra-pure clean water.)
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To: SeekAndFind

So what good is this biological agent called a “vaccine”, which it is not. Short term efficacy less than 7 month s after second jab, endless future “boosters”. Does not prevent spread. Increased susceptibility to viral strains, high injury and/or death to test subjects.

No Thank you.


5 posted on 10/03/2021 6:25:38 PM PDT by wetgundog
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To: SeekAndFind

If vaccines can’t prevent transmission, I want someone to explain to me why millions of people became immune from polio after taking polio vaccines.

It is getting kinda obvious—the “experts” did a bait and switch with these so-called vaccines—good old fashioned fraud.

These are not your grandfather’s vaccines which actually worked as promised.


6 posted on 10/03/2021 6:25:48 PM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Did you ever think last year when this vaccine came out Dr. Dooshee would still be lecturing us?


7 posted on 10/03/2021 6:25:53 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (As long as Hillary Clinton remains free equal justice under the law will never exist in the USA)
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To: SeekAndFind

Video is twitter embed..Rumble version for those those that won’t click twitter

CDC director Rochelle Walensky says that the vaccine *cannot* prevent transmission.
https://rumble.com/vnaazd-cdc-director-rochelle-walensky-says-that-the-vaccine-cannot-prevent-transmi.html


8 posted on 10/03/2021 6:26:37 PM PDT by janetjanet998
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To: SeekAndFind

“And why aren’t US officials acknowledging naturally acquired immunity?”

Well at least one US official recognizes it—Dr. Rand Paul. He has been a great senator on this issue.


9 posted on 10/03/2021 6:28:34 PM PDT by packagingguy (Kit)
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10 posted on 10/03/2021 6:29:10 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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Vaccines were never needed. Covid is not worse than a 'baad flu' year and can be controlled by only quarantining the sick.

This video is still on Twitter.

45 Second Twitter Video Clip of Dr. Fauci Saying. ".... asympomatic spread is rare and historically not a driver of outbreaks. Symptomatic people drive outbreaks."

Video clip, 45 seconds in duration, at link. The date of original recording is unknown.  A Tweeter on the thread commented that Fauci's remarks in the video were made, "During sars cov 1."

Transcript of Fauci's comments below.

8:03 PM · Sep 5, 2020

https://twitter.com/MaykelMatias/status/1302442308701429760

"To  just add one thing that seems to get lost in that question is that, as Bob said and I agree, we would really like to see the data because if there really is asymptomatic transmission it impacts certain policies that you do regarding screening etc.

But the one thing historically people need to realize, that even if there is some asymptomatic transmission, in all the history of respiratory viruses of any type, asymptomatic transmission has never been the driver of outbreaks.

The driver of outbreaks is always a symptomatic person. Even if there's a rare asymptomatic person that might transmit, an epidemic is not driven by asymptomatic carriers" ~ Dr. Fauci

 


11 posted on 10/03/2021 6:35:13 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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“CDC Director Rochelle Walensky said last week that Covid vaccines ‘can’t prevent transmission’ anymore despite working “exceptionally well.”

This is a flat lie. The vaccines were never designed to do anything with the virus itself. There has never been a vaccine that will kill or change the action of the virus outside the body moving into it. The vaccines were designed to prepare the body for the virus to enter the body by upping the immune system in the creation of T-cells.

And even that is in question as there have been a number of reported re-infections which means the some vaccinated people have not retained the desired immune system changes and are thus capable of getting infected again and spreading the virus just like thy were before and including not being vaccinated.

wy69


12 posted on 10/03/2021 6:36:20 PM PDT by whitney69
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It's Too Early To Tell' On Holiday Gatherings

Enemy agents could not have come up with a better plan for America. Oh wait...

13 posted on 10/03/2021 6:38:18 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Who the heck is Gary R White and why isn’t he taking a dirt nap?


14 posted on 10/03/2021 6:39:43 PM PDT by TigersEye (Resistance is not futile!)
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To: SeekAndFind

That’s because is not a vaccine, it’s marketing!


15 posted on 10/03/2021 6:40:04 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: SeekAndFind

The “vaccines” can’t stop anything and are not intended to, evidently.


16 posted on 10/03/2021 6:47:29 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy." ― Mao Zedong)
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Maybe I need a New Dictionary, but how could the vaccine be working very well if it doesn’t prevent the spread or contraction of the virus.

What am I missing??


17 posted on 10/03/2021 6:49:53 PM PDT by eyeamok (founded in cynicism, wrapped in sarcasm)
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To: SeekAndFind; Vermont Lt; BobL; Kartographer; JRandomFreeper; Tilted Irish Kilt; Jane Long; ...

I’m gathering anyway.

Coronavirus PING!


18 posted on 10/03/2021 6:50:15 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Florida: America's new free zone.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The CDC can KMA.


19 posted on 10/03/2021 6:55:21 PM PDT by grobdriver
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Dr. Fauci Says ‘It’s Too Early To Tell’ On Holiday Gatherings
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Gag that maggot. I don’t give 2 hoots and a holler about what he says. No one elected him, and he ain’t gonna have ANY impact on gatherings at my home.

That Neo-Mengele needs to be arrested, tried, and hanged when found guilty of crimes against humanity.


20 posted on 10/03/2021 6:56:49 PM PDT by greeneyes ( Moderation In Pursuit of Justice is NO Virtue--LET FREEDOM RING)
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