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Misconceptions About Native Americans w/S.C. Gwynne
YouTube ^ | December 10, 2019 | JRE Clips

Posted on 09/15/2021 5:30:10 AM PDT by SunkenCiv

Taken from JRE #1397 w/S.C. Gwynne:
Misconceptions About Native Americans w/S.C. Gwynne | Joe Rogan | December 10, 2019 | JRE Clips
Misconceptions About Native Americans w/S.C. Gwynne | Joe Rogan | December 10, 2019 | JRE Clips

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: comanches; godsgravesglyphs; joerogan; scgwynne
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Taken from JRE #1397 w/S.C. Gwynne:
The Gruesome History of the Comanche Tribe w/S.C. Gwynne | Joe Rogan | December 10, 2019 | JRE Clips
The Gruesome History of the Comanche Tribe w/S.C. Gwynne | Joe Rogan | December 10, 2019 | JRE Clips

1 posted on 09/15/2021 5:30:10 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
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Taken from JRE #1397 w/S. C. Gwynne:
The Unparalleled Archery and Horsemanship of the Comanche Warrior | December 10, 2019 | JRE Clips
The Unparalleled Archery and Horsemanship of the Comanche Warrior | December 10, 2019 | JRE Clips

2 posted on 09/15/2021 5:32:29 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

His book “Empire of the Summer Moon” about the Comanche Tribe is excellent.


3 posted on 09/15/2021 5:35:52 AM PDT by tlozo
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; 31R1O; ...
Taken from JRE #1397 w/S.C. Gwynne:
The Europeans Closely Guarded Horse Technology w/S.C. Gwynne | Joe Rogan | December 10, 2019 | JRE Clips
The Europeans Closely Guarded Horse Technology w/S.C. Gwynne | Joe Rogan | December 10, 2019 | JRE Clips

4 posted on 09/15/2021 5:37:01 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: tlozo

Thanks tlozo!


5 posted on 09/15/2021 5:41:38 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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Empire of the Summer Moon author, S.C. Gwynne, talks about the Comanches, the most powerful and influential tribe in American history.
The Rise and Fall of the Comanches | May 10, 2011 | Simon & Schuster Books
The Rise and Fall of the Comanches | May 10, 2011 | Simon & Schuster Books

6 posted on 09/15/2021 5:43:25 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Bookmark


7 posted on 09/15/2021 5:45:10 AM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog. )
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To: SunkenCiv

The Noble Savage would kill you.
Just as he would kill the other Noble Savages..................


8 posted on 09/15/2021 6:00:40 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: SunkenCiv

I am a member of a private Internet group where people postulate often bizarre questions regarding warfare. A couple years ago a member posed the question what would happen if the Comanches and the Mongolians to do battle at the height of thei war making strength.

It was the consensus of the group, with a few dissenting opinions, that the Mongols would win because of logistics and organization.

As a side I have seen reports from the US military about engagements with the Comanches. While they display typical white arrogance with regard to the Comanches. It is clear, however, that many officers took their threat very seriously.


9 posted on 09/15/2021 6:13:09 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: mad_as_he$$

More like the Mongols would win because of silk. Survivability of wounds is one of the most important factors.


10 posted on 09/15/2021 6:26:14 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: mad_as_he$$
Louis L'Amour said in interview that, if the North American tribes had had a Genghis Khan to weld them into a single nation, "we would not have succeeded." The point he kinda missed there is, the tribes weren't all one nation or even one language, and shared a history of thousands of years of war against one another. The talking points are wrong -- the tribes weren't "victims", they made war, and they lost. And if the "whites" had actually conducted genocide, there'd be no one around to complain about it.

11 posted on 09/15/2021 6:28:37 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Red Badger
That's why we smokem peace pipe.


12 posted on 09/15/2021 6:40:02 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just post clickbait!)
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To: SunkenCiv

You post the most interesting things on FR. With all the Despair Trolls and defeatists infesting this place, your posts are one of the few things keeping me coming back here. Thank you.


13 posted on 09/15/2021 6:46:21 AM PDT by fidelis (Ecce Crucem Domini! Fugite partes adversae! Vicit Leo de tribu Juda, Radix David! Alleluia! )
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To: SunkenCiv

I’m on the second volume of George Catlin’s letters about the American Indian.
They have just visited the Comanches and “Pawnee Picts”(not the same Pawnee as in Nebraska) lost a large number of Dragoons to disease and sickness, and has returned to Ft Gibson.

These books should be required reading for artists and those interested in American Indians.

Interesting note. Catlin found, and prepared to paint a “Fop” (gay) man in one tribe. This caused such an outrage from the chiefs of the tribe as they did not want their paintings in the same room with the fag’s painting.
So Catlin destroyed the painting of the “Fop”.

Also, the word “Squaw” is constantly used in his writings. The men did not like him painting their wives as they considered a wife not worthy.
Catlin convinced them that he wanted to display the painting of the wife BELOW the portrait of the men to show their subservience to the men.
That was OK.


14 posted on 09/15/2021 8:06:46 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (OUT OF FB JAIL! and back on the attack. 4 hours! Now back in FB jail-again!)
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To: SunkenCiv

Forty five years ago I read COMANCHES: THE DESTRUCTION OF A PEOPLE. I figured it would be a usual “Low the Poor Indian” type of book, but it was a brutal assessment of them. Took me by surprise!

Any tribe that would burn the face off a captive white girl before trading her back to the whites needs to be crushed.

” Matilda Lockhart, a sixteen-year-old White girl. Matilda, who had been captured with her sister in 1838, claimed that her captors had physically and sexually abused her.

Burn scars, coupled with the mutilation of her nose, supported her stories. She also said that fifteen other captives remained in Comanche hands and that the tribe’s leaders intended to ransom these hostages one at a time.”


15 posted on 09/15/2021 8:15:22 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (OUT OF FB JAIL! and back on the attack. 4 hours! Now back in FB jail-again!)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

I should add that the above mentioned mutilation of Matilda Lockhart, led to the Court House Massacre of the Indians.

One little 5 year old Comanche boy using a bow and arrow managed to kill a man at that fight. They were raised to kill very young.


16 posted on 09/15/2021 8:19:47 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (OUT OF FB JAIL! and back on the attack. 4 hours! Now back in FB jail-again!)
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To: SunkenCiv

I remember Louis L’Amour, on a morning news show about forty five years ago, saying that the Indian tribes broke as many treaties as the whites did.

This is conveniently forgotten by the revisionists.


17 posted on 09/15/2021 8:22:20 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (OUT OF FB JAIL! and back on the attack. 4 hours! Now back in FB jail-again!)
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To: SunkenCiv

The europeans during the horse invasions 5k years ago were like the comanche horse empire.


18 posted on 09/15/2021 9:03:22 AM PDT by ckilmer
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To: SunkenCiv

Joe Rogan and Elon Musk are two blowhards I can do without but happy to see the former is introducing more people to Mr Gwynne’s work.


19 posted on 09/15/2021 9:07:20 AM PDT by Clemenza
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To: mad_as_he$$

It is clear, however, that many officers took their threat very seriously.

If they didn’t, often, they, their soldiers and camp/fort wives were killed or worse, taken prisoner.

A bloody book re the violence back then:

Killing Crazy Horse by O’Reilly and Martin Duggard.


20 posted on 09/15/2021 9:07:36 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( In your private, business, social and whatever life!: "All ways, ask Cui Bono?"!)
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