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COVID-19 Vaccines Offer More Protection than Previous Infection: CDC Study
Epoch Times ^ | 08/06/2021 | Zachary Steiber

Posted on 08/06/2021 6:54:25 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

People who have received a COVID-19 vaccine have more protection against the SARS-COV-2 virus than people who have recovered from COVID-19, according to a new study.

The odds of getting infected with the virus, which causes COVID-19, were 2.3 times higher among people who had been infected before when compared to those who were fully vaccinated, according to the new report.

Researchers in Kentucky teamed with Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) officials to carry out the case-control evaluation of the link between vaccination and infection.

They used Kentucky’s National Electronic Disease Surveillance System to find COVID-19 cases and checked for people who got infected a second time between May 1 and June 30 of this year.

They also utilized the state’s immunization registry to look for fully vaccinated persons.

Researchers ended up with two groups. The first group of 246 was called case-patients, who experienced a second COVID-19 infection. The second was a control group of 492 who did not.

Some of the case-patients were fully vaccinated but still got a second infection, according to researchers. Still, the percentage of those who went unvaccinated and got infected again was higher, they found.

“These data further indicate that COVID-19 vaccines offer better protection than natural immunity alone and that vaccines, even after prior infection, help prevent reinfections,” the CDC said in a statement.

“This study shows you are twice as likely to get infected again if you are unvaccinated. Getting the vaccine is the best way to protect yourself and others around you, especially as the more contagious Delta variant spreads around the country,” added Dr. Rochelle Walensky, the agency’s director.

Some existing research tilts the opposite direction of the study’s conclusions. Multiple studies have indicated that vaccination does not provide more protection than prior infection.

Dr. Jeffrey Klausner, clinical professor of preventive medicine at the University of Southern California’s Keck School of Medicine, conducted one of those studies.

He and other researchers analyzed records from a California laboratory where workers were routinely tested during the pandemic and found none of the employees contracted COVID-19.

Klausner told The Epoch Times in an email that he reviewed the new CDC study and found it lacking.

“My concern is that in the Kentucky study the people with prior infection who go on to get vaccinated are different than those who do not. People with prior infection who get vaccinated are more likely to take other precautions such as mask wearing, avoiding indoor crowded settings, and get tested more often than those who do not get vaccinated. Those who did not get vaccinated likely engage in higher risk activities, have more exposure, and are less likely to get tested,” he said.

“The very brief report is incomplete without showing that the two groups were equal in terms of risk factors for repeat infection,” he added.

Other studies indicate that even one vaccine dose boosts the immunity in people who got COVID-19 and recovered.

Researchers from Rush University said in a separate study published Friday that people with prior infection may be sufficiently protected from reinfection after a single dose of a messenger RNA-based vaccine.

That “could free up availability of millions of additional doses,” they said.

Dr. David Boulware, professor at the University of Minnesota’s Department of Medicine, who wasn’t involved in either study, told The Epoch Times via email that he recommends people who recover from COVID-19 get at least one vaccine dose to generate long-term memory immune cells. But they should wait at least three months—preferably over six months—to get the jab, because the natural immunity takes time to fade.



TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: antibodies; coronavirus; covid19; protection; vaccine; vaccines
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To: SeekAndFind
Meanwhile back at the Gold Mine with Gamma:

Here's some info on Gamma: It appears that the injected spread the virus to the others-injected and not injected.

However, some miners with natural immunity and no injection did not get the variant.

NOTICE WHICH GROUPS BELOW HAD THE ACUTE INFECTION:

Else where it was noted that the injected had higher viral load than the others, but symptoms were delayed.

Hence he did not know he was contagious, and spread it to the others. Meanwhile not knowing he was sick, the virus reproduced unhindered by any additional therapeutics.

We know that delayed treatment is not good, and reduces the effectiveness of some of the mitigating treatments.


61 posted on 08/07/2021 1:14:05 AM PDT by greeneyes ( Moderation In Pursuit of Justice is NO Virtue--LET FREEDOM RING)
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To: SeekAndFind; Cathi; Unrepentant VN Vet; metmom; Fractal Trader; SecAmndmt; bagster; doc maverick; ..
OK, we now have 5 studies whose results are different from this one study. Which one to believe and why?

The studies that show natural immunity is better are more believable because they don't originate from the CDC, which has lied to us, denied access to medication, and knowingly selected a fake PCR 'test' to lock us down, hold the door open for election theft, destroy the economy, and mask us. They are guilty of mass murder and are actively engaging in coup.

The CDC's 'study' is based on fabricated data - who gets sick based on a fake PCR test that they still 'need' to use to create fake numbers through December 2021.

Among the 5 other studies, there's additional methods which do not rely on the PCR. Antibodies, bone marrow plasma, and people who are not property of China.

"Researchers in Kentucky teamed with Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) officials to carry out the case-control evaluation of the link between vaccination and infection."

I looked up "Kentucky's Integrated Surveillance Information Systems/NEDSS". It's only named that way to conceal the fact that the CDC/FEDS have access to your medical records. Having them raises issues, you see.

Trying to search for 'Kentucky's system leads to the CDC's system which it invites states to fill with patient information. All 50 states have complied.

I believe this is the product of the fake HIPPA rules - people tried to explain when HIPPA was rolled out that it actually eliminated privacy and let many agencies share your medical information freely, similar to the Patriot Act, which weaponized the intel agencies, giving them complete access to information about you collected by any local, state, or federal agency.

"All your private medical information R belong to us!"

Oh, I'm sure they'll say it's just Covid information tracking, but it's not. Say, I wonder if this system allows information sharing to track disease so that the Federal government know's who has been 'naughty' and who has been 'nice'? (Vaccinated/Unvaccinated)

Wouldn't it be great if the Biden administration could send out vaccine strike teams to the homes of the unvaccinated first? Oh, give them clipboards and tell them to 'ask' if all are vaccinated, but door to door is a tiring job so prioritize conservative areas, Christians, people speaking up against the government. You know, just the usual. Take notes of the structure, any guard dogs or fences in order to make their planned mandatory vaccine and passport roll out more efficient.

https://www.cdc.gov/nndss/about/nedss.html

Integrated Surveillance Information Systems/NEDSS

Integrated surveillance information systems in public health departments are primary sources of data for the National Notifiable Diseases Surveillance System (NNDSS). These systems are based on the National Electronic Disease Surveillance System (NEDSS) architectural standards. By encouraging the use of and helping to support standards-based public health surveillance systems, NEDSS helps public health agencies accept electronic data exchanges from healthcare systems and enables health departments to create and send standards-based case notifications to CDC for NNDSS. Currently, jurisdictions can send case notifications by using different standards; the CDC NNDSS Modernization Initiative is working to provide a single, new standard to transmit data to CDC.

NEDSS helps connect the healthcare system to public health departments and those health departments to CDC by

Today, all 50 states and Washington, D.C., use NEDSS-compatible integrated surveillance information systems to send case notifications to NNDSS.  To be considered NEDSS compatible, states must have information systems meeting these requirements:

HEre's a quote from the above:

"They also utilized the state’s immunization registry to look for fully vaccinated persons."

They could, if they were honest and didn't lie about the results, compare mortality of those 'fully vaccinated' to those who have since died for any reason, and do the same for the unvaccinated....but they coudl't report he results then, could they?

If they wanted to, they could have added fields to the existing database to house vaccine adverse event information in order to actively and efficiently capture information critical to public health upon introducing an experimental mass vaccination. If they wanted to.

62 posted on 08/07/2021 1:52:03 AM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: blackdog
That’s why your Healthcare and government are not to co-mingle in my opinion

Well, that horse has left the barn, hasn't it?

63 posted on 08/07/2021 2:16:35 AM PDT by Turbo Pig ('to close with and destroy the enemy")
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To: SeekAndFind; Jane Long; bitt; bagster; numberonepal; Cletus.D.Yokel; Cathi
From a poster on Instapundit:

Earlier today in another thread I posted this bit of analysis I did.

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A little while ago I was looking at another horribly flawed CDC study after seeing this Daily Mail article

The article also said:

COVID-19 survivors who do not get vaccinated have higher odds of contracting the virus again than those who do get their shots, a new report finds.

Data analyzed by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) found that those who were previously infected and didn't get vaccinated were 2.3 times more likely to be reinfected than survivors who were immunized.

The findings provide further evidence supporting vaccination for all Americans, even those who had mild or asymptomatic cases of Covid.

I noticed that the ratios in the subject group were almost identical to the ratios in the control group, as if they were all taken from the same group, as if the group being studied were just like the control group of first-time COVID sufferers. The CDC looked at that data and claim they found evidence that supports the narrative of the day, that the vaccines are much better than naturally acquired immunity, which is contrary to almost all the prior data on COVID immunity.

Problems:

COVID-19 reinfection: a rapid systematic review of case reports and case series

That paper looked at all reports from around the world for almost all of 2020. It found:

A total of 17 cases of genetically confirmed COVID-19 reinfection have been reported in the literature to date.

The CDC claims they looked at 246 reinfections in Kentucky in just two months. Maybe Kentucky is the hotbed of worldwide Covid reinfections (do we love our sisters too much?), or maybe the CDC is once again proving their incompetence.

Kentucky has run 7,317,475 COVID tests. A meta-analysis of data from New England found an overall false positive rate of about 1.19%, which would mean Kentucky should have 87,000 people who had falsely tested positive for COVID. Since we had more tests (7 million) than population (4.47 million), a 1.19% false positive rate would mean 1.95% of our population are people who had a false positive.

In May and June, the period the CDC studied, there 14,241 new COVID patients in Kentucky. Given the random nature of infection, of those 14,241 COVID patients, 277 should be patients who'd previously tested positive but who actually never had COVID.

The CDC study said there were 248 Kentuckians who'd become reinfected, pretty much in line with the expected number of COVID patients who were prior false positives.

The original CDC paper is here

Note that they didn't actually study any patients, they just matched up entries in the Kentucky databases on cases and vaccinations.

64 posted on 08/07/2021 3:10:08 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: SeekAndFind; ransomnote; Jane Long; bitt; bagster; numberonepal; Cletus.D.Yokel
15 states are keeping COVID-19 breakthrough cases under wraps

https://www.icelandreview.com/society/covid-19-in-iceland-vaccination-has-not-led-to-herd-immunity-says-chief-epidemiologist/>COVID-19 in Iceland: Vaccination Has Not Led to Herd Immunity, Says Chief Epidemiologist

65 posted on 08/07/2021 3:36:28 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: SeekAndFind

This study seems to show that previous infection, combined with vaccination, prevents a second infection, more than previous infection alone. This is not surprising, anyone with a previous infection has a (for example) 98% reduction in chance of a second infection, and vaccination produces a 95% reduction in subsequent infection, then having precious infection PLUS vaccination should produce a 99%+ reduction in chance of infection. The headline is just the usual misleading Covid clickbait nonsense.


66 posted on 08/07/2021 4:55:55 AM PDT by brookwood (Obama said you could keep your plan - Sanders says higher taxes will improve the weatheryour)
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To: SeekAndFind
" OK, we now have 5 studies whose results are different from this one study. Which one to believe and why? Just today, we had this study come out.... RECOVERED COVID-19 FOLKS HAVE MORE POTENT ANTIBODY RESPONSE THAN VACCNATED FOLKS : 👇👇 https://thefederalist.com/2021/08/05/study-finds-greater-antibody-response-in-recovered-covid-19-patients-than-vaccinated-ones/ A new study has found that individuals that have previously contracted COVID-19 show a more potent antibody response than those who were solely vaccinated for the respiratory virus. Conducted by a research team at Rockefeller University in New York, the analysis found “that between a first (prime) and second (booster) shot of either the Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna vaccine, the memory B cells of infection-naïve individuals produced antibodies that evolved increased neutralizing activity against SARS-CoV-2,” but also that “no additional increase in the potency or breadth of this activity was observed thereafter.” The study’s findings add to further mounting evidence detailing the level of protection natural immunity offers previously infected COVID-19 patients. Last month, Emory University published an extensive investigation describing the efficiency of long-term immunity against the respiratory virus. Similar discoveries have also been identified in research released by the Cleveland Clinic and the Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis, respectively. For those interested in SUPPORTING STUDIES similar to Rockefeller University, here are some links: STUDY RESULT FROM EMORY UNIVERSITY: https://thefederalist.com/2021/07/26/study-recovered-covid-19-patients-possess-robust-immunity-to-virus/ STUDY RESULTS FROM THE CLEVELAND CLINIC: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.06.01.21258176v3 STUDY RESULTS FROM THE WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY SCHOOL OF MEDICINE (Published in NATURE): https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03647-4 Supporting studies from Israel’s Health Ministry: https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/309762 [EXCERPT] Coronavirus patients who recovered from the virus were far less likely to become infected during the latest wave of the pandemic than people who were vaccinated against COVID, according to numbers presented to the Israeli Health Ministry. Health Ministry data on the wave of COVID outbreaks which began this May show that Israelis with immunity from natural infection were far less likely to become infected again in comparison to Israelis who only had immunity via vaccination. "

SO, WHICH STUDY RESULTS TO BELIEVE?"

One flaw may be that unvaccinated may tend to be more careless in interaction, while a key aspect is that of being infected with variants and being merely infected versus recovering. The article states, "The odds of getting infected with the virus, which causes COVID-19, were 2.3 times higher among people who had been infected before when compared to those who were fully vaccinated, according to the new report." Acquired immunity may provide a more robust resistance to variants.

67 posted on 08/07/2021 5:57:30 AM PDT by daniel1212 ( Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save + be baptized + follow Him!)
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To: blackdog

“Thanks for good news. I’ve had a left branch problem all my life. Two beats out of time with the other valve side only opening once. The pacemaker will match the needed rhythm. I have been extremely tired all the time, feeling like a thousand pounds is on me.”

A early 50 something daughter of very good friends, passed out while talking to friends on a Friday pm after school. She was/is a teacher.

Her teacher friends brought her to the local hospital with a good cardiac team after she came to.

The team stabilized the woman over the weekend and in the morning of Monday, they installed the pace maker.

They discharged her that afternoon, and she feels great and hasn’t had any episodes for close to 2 months. Once or twice a day, she feels the pacemaker doing its job. She is monitored 24/7 and her pacemaker does its job when needed.

You will be very happy with your results.


68 posted on 08/07/2021 10:18:08 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (If I wanted to live in Australia, China, Cuba, Canada, the UK, or Chicago! I'd move there! )
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