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Long Beach [CA] considers options for Queen Mary, including sinking the ship
LA Times ^ | Hugo Martin

Posted on 07/21/2021 1:47:40 PM PDT by BenLurkin

The aging Queen Mary could cost the city of Long Beach up to $175 million to preserve and maintain over the next 25 years but it could cost even more — up to $190 million — to recycle for scrap or sink into the ocean.

Docked on the city’s shore since 1967, the former ocean liner has long been a challenge to operate. A 2017 study recommended that as much as $289 million worth of renovations and upgrades were needed to keep parts of the ship from flooding. According to documents filed recently in Bankruptcy Court, the Queen Mary needs $23 million in immediate repairs to prevent it from potentially capsizing.

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TOPICS: Travel
KEYWORDS: longbeach; moneypit; queenmary
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could cost even more — up to $190 million — to recycle for scrap or sink into the ocean.

What? How is that possible?

Scrapping is done all the time for ships, and a tow out to sea and opening the drain plugs can't possibly cost nearly that much? Can it?


1 posted on 07/21/2021 1:47:40 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

They’ve been neglecting it for years.


2 posted on 07/21/2021 1:50:47 PM PDT by dljordan (Slouching towards Woketopia)
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To: BenLurkin

It’s a public works project and therefore grossly overpriced by definition.


3 posted on 07/21/2021 1:51:02 PM PDT by Dave911
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To: BenLurkin
Sad story. My wife and I visited it once when we were out there in California Sodom & Gomorrah. It was like stepping into the past.
4 posted on 07/21/2021 1:51:05 PM PDT by Sans-Culotte (11/3-11/4/2020 - The USA became a banana republic.)
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To: BenLurkin
Donate it to the US Navy for target practice.

5 posted on 07/21/2021 1:51:14 PM PDT by StormEye
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To: BenLurkin

In order to tow it out and sink it, thanks to environmental law all potential hazardous materials have to be removed. To scrap it, it has to be made tow-able to a ship breaker’s.


6 posted on 07/21/2021 1:55:39 PM PDT by Don W (When blacks riot, neighbourhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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To: BenLurkin

In about 1998 or so, to spend the night there was as cheap as the Long Beach Hilton, so I expensed $80 for a night. I think I even had dinner there on another trip. You could just walk in and walk around.

About a year later, you couldn’t even get on board without big bucks.


7 posted on 07/21/2021 1:55:46 PM PDT by RushingWater
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To: BenLurkin

Crab fishing.

I’ll bet you could store 500 pounds of crabs in that.


8 posted on 07/21/2021 1:55:55 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer”)
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To: BenLurkin

Isnt the Spruce Goose parked in the same location as the Queen Mary?


9 posted on 07/21/2021 1:55:56 PM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic...)
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To: BenLurkin

Stayed aboard several times in the 80s; the forward lounge with all the art deco trim and furnishings was like traveling back in history. Sorry to see her go.


10 posted on 07/21/2021 1:56:51 PM PDT by Ben Hecks (Don't Google it - Duck it!)
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To: BenLurkin

Before towing it to the South China Sea and sinking it, fill it up with all the illegal alien vermin in CA...

Tell them its a free cruise... No masks of vaccinations required...


11 posted on 07/21/2021 1:57:28 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another Sam Adams now that we desperately need him?)
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To: Magnum44

No. The Spruce Goose was sold to a museum in Oregon a number of years ago.


12 posted on 07/21/2021 1:59:01 PM PDT by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: BenLurkin
Donate it to the US Navy for target practice.

13 posted on 07/21/2021 1:59:24 PM PDT by StormEye
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To: Magnum44

The Spruce Goose was moved to Oregon in 1993.

https://www.evergreenmuseum.org/the-spruce-goose?gclid=CjwKCAjwi9-HBhACEiwAPzUhHJZFC1fH2dEvW3L2XA3Se80chHq5lYlwjCQAsgCGnHlB-mX-IKXV5xoCFPQQAvD_BwE


14 posted on 07/21/2021 2:01:26 PM PDT by DFG
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To: BenLurkin

A boat is a hole in to water where money is poured.


15 posted on 07/21/2021 2:02:16 PM PDT by alternatives?
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Salt water is a youknowwhat.

For a comparison, check out the travails of USS Texas. It’s going to cost millions to fix her, but it looks like she’s finally going to get drydocked and repaired. Assuming that the Parks & Wildlife people don’t do something nefarious in the meantime.

The QM is no doubt filled with ‘toxic’ chemicals, and asbestos. The biggest issue is probably the asbestos. The enviros would go nuts if you just sank her off the coast as a reef without cleaning up all the contaminants.

(Never mind that old ships sink, regardless)

The best option available to them would probably be to sell/give her to the poor people who run ships aground on the shore and break them down by torch in (TWH). But no doubt they can’t do that either.

As it is, she’s much like any other boat, a hole in the water that you throw money into.


16 posted on 07/21/2021 2:04:12 PM PDT by Kommodor (Solzhenitsyn was an optimist...)
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To: BenLurkin

Tow it out to sea. Change ownership at sea. Now it is someone else’s problem.


17 posted on 07/21/2021 2:05:49 PM PDT by Nateman (If the Left is not screaming , you are doing it wrong.)
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To: married21

It is in McMinville OR.


18 posted on 07/21/2021 2:06:23 PM PDT by rellic
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To: Magnum44

Not for a long time now


19 posted on 07/21/2021 2:08:14 PM PDT by SaveFerris (The Lord, The Christ, and The Messiah: Jesus Christ of Nazareth - http://www.BiblicalJesusChrist.Com)
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To: BenLurkin

Sell it to me for $1. I’ll convert it to a set of homeless shelters. I’ll sell Tenancy In Common shares for tens of thousands of dollars, to go into maintenance.


20 posted on 07/21/2021 2:08:21 PM PDT by Kevmo (Right now there are 500 political prisoners in Washington, DC.)
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