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1 posted on 06/23/2021 11:50:22 AM PDT by ransomnote
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To: Cathi; Unrepentant VN Vet; metmom; Fractal Trader; SecAmndmt; bagster; doc maverick; ...

PING


2 posted on 06/23/2021 11:50:47 AM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: Mom MD; gas_dr

*PING* to a couple of Vax-worshipping docs.

Public Health England data, shows death rate for those who were jabbed, is 2x the death rate for unjabbed, for delta variant.

Significant at p=0.0007 ...

Discussed by an MD, so you ought to have your egos properly stroked.


3 posted on 06/23/2021 11:54:44 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: ransomnote
He also said:

PAUSE. THIS. NOW.

8 posted on 06/23/2021 12:14:44 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: ransomnote

Duh. Are people with co-morbid conditions more likely, or less likely, to submit to vaccination?

I’m saying that people with co-morbid conditions get vaccinated on the scale of five times the rate of the overall population. Yes, fully vaccinated people can catch COVID, but the chances are reduced by as much as 95%. Among vaccinated people with COVID the ratio of outcome between victims with co-morbid conditions to the general population of vaccinated victims would not appreciably differ from the ratio of outcomes in unvaccinated victims.


9 posted on 06/23/2021 12:21:32 PM PDT by nagant
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To: ransomnote

Worthless without a breakdown of which vax. RNA or non RNA ? There are many vaccines on the market now.


10 posted on 06/23/2021 12:22:02 PM PDT by redcatcherb412
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To: ransomnote

most likely from antibody-dependent enhancement, which is probably the main culprit in heart inflammation occurring after the first vaccination when antibodies already exist from a previous natural infection and after the second dose otherwise ... aside from efficacy, ADE is one of the main reasons that so many “promising” virus vaccines don’t make it to market ...


22 posted on 06/23/2021 12:55:05 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: ransomnote; Cathi; Unrepentant VN Vet; metmom; Fractal Trader; SecAmndmt; bagster; doc maverick; ...
Infectious Disease Ping – UK study shows higher deaths attributed to vaccinated individuals than *unvaxxinated* individuals
Uh Oh !

(FReeper) grey_whiskers : “Public Health England data, shows death rate for those who were jabbed,
is 2x the death rate for unjabbed, for delta variant.(Emphasis mine)
Significant at p=0.0007 ...
Discussed by an MD, so you ought to have your egos properly stroked. “

and later :" But the pro-jab can’t rely on that: because it literally undermines the entire “Emergency Use Authorization” rationale for the jabs in the first place."

and later still ( grey_whiskers) : “ Death is far harder to recover from than hospitalization. “

Statistics and graphs are included in the OP.
Comments welcomed !

23 posted on 06/23/2021 1:25:54 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt
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>> The result is highly statistically significant (Vax=37/17605, Unvax= 34/35473, RR=2.19, p<0.01)

Definitely significant, ransomnote.

For the sake of accuracy, can you make an argument against these findings perhaps related to the demographics or the way the data was collected?


24 posted on 06/23/2021 1:34:07 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: ransomnote

honestly, these stats mean nothing without knowing individual intervals between vaccine, its effective date and community exposure prior to effective date. That is, if the first shot doesn’t give protection until 21-28 days, then someone could catch covid 3 days or 10 days after vaccination (then add a 10-day-to-symptom block), meaning by the time of the second shot they are on the verge of presenting symptoms, with the virus overcoming the lower levels of antibodies and replicating faster than antibodies are produced by the second shot. But again, there’s the 21-28 day window of potential infectability, or, roughly 40-60 days from first shot.

When did the patient get vaccinated, what were their activities and contacts in the 21 days following? What antibody levels did they have at time of symptoms? Those are the questions we need answered if we’re going to understand these deaths.


27 posted on 06/23/2021 3:57:39 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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To: ransomnote

Breaking: Australian researchers find Covid spike protein best designed to attack human cells after modelling ACE receptors of everything from people to pangolins https://t.co/dDgaxeqCHL— James Morrow (@pwafork) June 27, 2021


36 posted on 06/27/2021 6:08:07 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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Both the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna vaccines may provide lifetime protection against COVID-19, a new study suggests. Researchers found that people who received either of the two-dose shots, which use new messenger RNA (mRNA) technology, had strong and ‘persistent’ immune responses.

What’s more, the vaccines produced high levels of neutralizing antibodies against two variants of the virus.

This could mean that Pfizer and Moderna recipients could have long-lasting immunity - for years or potentially the rest of their lives - and may not even need boosters, reported first by The New York Times.

Source: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-9733211/Pfizer-Moderna-COVID-19-vaccines-provide-protection-against-virus-years-study-finds.html

...gee, maybe there are so many adverse effects due to the spike protein
(and by definition, if the virus does mutate t the point you need a new jab, your body won’t have defenses against the new jab),
they know each new round of booster shots every 6-12 months will result in a new wave of side effects / deaths...


37 posted on 06/28/2021 8:53:44 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: ransomnote

Would like to see the stats for each vaccine desperately. The UK did not use the same vaccines as the US did


39 posted on 06/28/2021 10:08:39 AM PDT by mware (RETIRED)
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To: ransomnote

Folks should check out the banner headline on the “front page” of the UK’s Daily Mail’s website....

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html

“THANKS FOR OUR JABS!”


40 posted on 06/28/2021 10:09:16 AM PDT by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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To: ransomnote

Nothing like hoodwinking the People of the UK.

Ivermectin Drug Therapy is your friend:

The health Alliance Prophylaxis Protocol calls for Ivermectin, Zinc and Quercetin.

https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/FLCCC-I-MASK-Protocol-v4-2020-11-22.pdf

Apparently the Zinc allows the Ivermectin to bind with the Stick protein on the Virus itself.

https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/ivermectin

Source for Ivermectin:

https://dir.indiamart.com/search.mp?ss=ivermectin+tablet&prdsrc=1&src=as-popular%3Akwd%3Divermectin%3Apos%3D3%3Acat%3D-2%3Amcat%3D-2


49 posted on 06/28/2021 6:40:50 PM PDT by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism:http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html) )
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