Dr Ah Kahn Syed @arkmedic: More data has emerged from @PHE_UK which now confirms that the #delta #covid19 death rate is 2x HIGHER for the #vaccinated

twitter.com ^ | June 18, 2021 | Dr Ah Kahn Syed @arkmedic

[ransomnote]

 

 

Dr Ah Kahn Syed

 

@arkmedic

 

IMPORTANT UPDATE. More data has emerged from

@PHE_UK
which now confirms that the #delta #covid19 death rate is 2x HIGHER for the #vaccinated The result is highly statistically significant (Vax=37/17605, Unvax= 34/35473, RR=2.19, p<0.01) PAUSE. THIS. NOW.

 

  

 

 

Dr Ah Kahn Syed

 

@arkmedic

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Jun 18

 

Replying to

@arkmedic

Source data https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/994839/Variants_of_Concern_VOC_Technical_Briefing_16.pdf… Archived here:

SARS-CoV-2 variants of concern and variants under investigation (publishing.service.gov.uk)

 

  

 

 

Dr Ah Kahn Syed

 

@arkmedic

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Jun 18

 

This is really important: It was Public Health England (PHE) that claimed to have performed an independent analysis of the raw vaccine data. That means

PHE are responsible

PHE failed to disclose that they knew ONE DOSE was enough.

[src: https://app.box.com/s/jv487awvqzzsrdql0o34h9gg350ceyd4/file/810525039419…]

 

ransomnote: the following is his discussion refuting the claim that the deaths are a natural outcome of high numbers of elderly in data

 

Dr Ah Kahn Syed on Twitter: "OK I'm going to address this because, instead of actually having a reasonable discussion Deepti has sent trolls from the UK, as expected. It's called targeted harassment and anybody not prepared to engage properly will be blocked immediately. Please read this response" / Twitter

 

Dr Ah Kahn Syed on Twitter: "(2) Let's say all 19 deaths are in the elderly and 75% of the vaccinated group are elderly, this means the IFR in the elderly vaccinated is now 19/7008 = 0.3% with RR now 2.31 and p&lt;0.01 The effect is much greater. https://t.co/coO7mehz9O" / Twitter

 

 

[FR_addict]

Me too.

[catnipman]

most likely from antibody-dependent enhancement, which is probably the main culprit in heart inflammation occurring after the first vaccination when antibodies already exist from a previous natural infection and after the second dose otherwise ... aside from efficacy, ADE is one of the main reasons that so many “promising” virus vaccines don’t make it to market ...

[Tilted Irish Kilt]

Infectious Disease Ping – UK study shows higher deaths attributed to vaccinated individuals than *unvaxxinated* individuals
Uh Oh !

(FReeper) grey_whiskers : “Public Health England data, shows death rate for those who were jabbed,
is 2x the death rate for unjabbed, for delta variant.(Emphasis mine)
Significant at p=0.0007 ...
Discussed by an MD, so you ought to have your egos properly stroked. “

and later :" But the pro-jab can’t rely on that: because it literally undermines the entire “Emergency Use Authorization” rationale for the jabs in the first place."

and later still ( grey_whiskers) : “ Death is far harder to recover from than hospitalization. “

Statistics and graphs are included in the OP.
Comments welcomed !

[Gene Eric]

>> The result is highly statistically significant (Vax=37/17605, Unvax= 34/35473, RR=2.19, p<0.01)

Definitely significant, ransomnote.

For the sake of accuracy, can you make an argument against these findings perhaps related to the demographics or the way the data was collected?

[Katya]

I don’t think we can garner much from this. And you are correct, a specific sector of “ill people” will be getting immunized because their drs have warned them they are in a high risk category.
My other question is, why are people still catching covid?
I’m immunized AND understand that it doesnt’ protect me from catching covid.... so I still zicam when I go out, and take my vit D religiously. I have ZERO interest in getting sick, with anything. I have avoided all colds and flus since 2010... vit D and zicam

[little jeremiah]

“ Death is far harder to recover from than hospitalization.”

Ain’t that the truth. I’ll read the thread, thanks.

[blueplum]

honestly, these stats mean nothing without knowing individual intervals between vaccine, its effective date and community exposure prior to effective date. That is, if the first shot doesn’t give protection until 21-28 days, then someone could catch covid 3 days or 10 days after vaccination (then add a 10-day-to-symptom block), meaning by the time of the second shot they are on the verge of presenting symptoms, with the virus overcoming the lower levels of antibodies and replicating faster than antibodies are produced by the second shot. But again, there’s the 21-28 day window of potential infectability, or, roughly 40-60 days from first shot.

When did the patient get vaccinated, what were their activities and contacts in the 21 days following? What antibody levels did they have at time of symptoms? Those are the questions we need answered if we’re going to understand these deaths.

[ransomnote]

honestly, these stats mean nothing without knowing individual intervals between vaccine, its effective date and community exposure prior to effective date.
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That issue is addressed in the first line of the first table highlighted in yellow.

[Jane Long]

LOL.....perfect.

That guy is worldwide, now.

[Jane Long]

Agree.

Something Dr Merritt warned us about, last year.

And, I wouldn’t be surprised if these ‘variants’ are also vax related.

What a mess they’ve made.

[blueplum]

Most cases of polio were highly-contageous asymptomatics. Children stricken with paralitic polio had a 2%-5% death rate; it was 15%-30% for adults. The first polio vaccine, in 1935, contained live virus and was a failure. The second, sponsored by the precursor to March of Dimes in 1953 and led by Salks, used an inactive virus and was successful, but a bad batch of live virus caused deaths and the govt called an end to the program. Joint US/Russian research led in 1963 to Sabin’s edible sugar cube vaccine, which the US govt found preferable. Twenty years later, polio was erradicated from the US. (I recall getting the sugar cube in 62 or 63 - part of a school health day at an on-base elementary - in hindsight, maybe we were the ‘phase 3’ and didn’t know it? Nobody at the school got polio, tho.)

The world waited 18 years for a polio vaccine. But that was based on 1935-1960 science and scientific ability (no computers). In the meantime, we’ve defined trials into phases that need to reach benchmarks and specialized medicine into world-wide brainbanks. I sure hope we have advanced further than mid-20th century technology and medical thought in producing new vaccines with a tighter timetable than 18 years. Expecially when faced with a future where biowarfare is an existential threat.

[blueplum]

Covid symptomatic to death is 18.5 days on the average. Plus 10 days asymptomatic/incubating, (symptoms day 10) gives a 28 day infection to death timestamp on the average.

The chart lists 4,000 single-dose deaths within 21 days of vaccination, and 9,500 after 21 days but before the second dose (which I guess is 21 days or more after the first dose). That's within the averaged death window and points to an incubating infection prior to the first dose. Without looking at community exposure pre and post first dose, and, antibody levels at time of death, we can't say definitively the vaccine caused those deaths.

There are another 4,000 that died up to or 14 days after the second dose, or, on a 21-day dosing, 35 days plus to death from the first dose. That's still within the averaged death window but also points to inadequate antibody production of the first dose, and community infection between the first and second dose dates. That is, given an average 28 day death cycle, infection would have occurred just prior to or anytime after the first dose when antibodies were still building.

Does this mean that the UK should not have extended time to second dose to three weeks, so as to reach more people with the first dose, but leaving some people with inadequate antibody level buildup from the first dose? People with a false sense of security more likely to return to community settings before the 21-28 day caution window while antibodies are building? Should antibody testing be part of the dose 2 regime?

[Freedom56v2]

Public Health England data, shows death rate for those who were jabbed, is 2x the death rate for unjabbed, for delta variant.

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Wait, so I have been reading/hearing in news all week that we must get the jab to protect ourselves from the more transmissible deadlier Delta variant...

How is this possible?!?!

[nagant]

nagant: Duh. Are people with co-morbid conditions more likely, or less likely, to submit to vaccination? you: I have co-morbid conditions and will rely on the prophylactics for Covid, not on an experimental gene therapy. I've done my research. I'm sure there are plenty like me that will not take the shots. Covid sounds a lot less dangerous than the side effects including death from experimental gene therapy shots. I'm sure the voices in your head have convinced you that everyone like you believes like you do, but it is not so. The incidence of co-morbid conditions is a function of age. Here's the age demographics of COVID-19 vaccination in the U.S.

[nagant]

nagant: Duh. Are people with co-morbid conditions more likely, or less likely, to submit to vaccination?

you: I have co-morbid conditions and will rely on the prophylactics for Covid, not on an experimental gene therapy. I've done my research. I'm sure there are plenty like me that will not take the shots. Covid sounds a lot less dangerous than the side effects including death from experimental gene therapy shots.

I'm sure the voices in your head have convinced you that everyone like you believes like you do, but it is not so. The incidence of co-morbid conditions is a function of age. Here's the age demographics of COVID-19 vaccination in the U.S.

[grey_whiskers]

Breaking: Australian researchers find Covid spike protein best designed to attack human cells after modelling ACE receptors of everything from people to pangolins https://t.co/dDgaxeqCHL— James Morrow (@pwafork) June 27, 2021

[grey_whiskers]

Both the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna vaccines may provide lifetime protection against COVID-19, a new study suggests. Researchers found that people who received either of the two-dose shots, which use new messenger RNA (mRNA) technology, had strong and ‘persistent’ immune responses.

What’s more, the vaccines produced high levels of neutralizing antibodies against two variants of the virus.

This could mean that Pfizer and Moderna recipients could have long-lasting immunity - for years or potentially the rest of their lives - and may not even need boosters, reported first by The New York Times.

Source: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-9733211/Pfizer-Moderna-COVID-19-vaccines-provide-protection-against-virus-years-study-finds.html

...gee, maybe there are so many adverse effects due to the spike protein
(and by definition, if the virus does mutate t the point you need a new jab, your body won’t have defenses against the new jab),
they know each new round of booster shots every 6-12 months will result in a new wave of side effects / deaths...

[grey_whiskers]

[mware]

Would like to see the stats for each vaccine desperately. The UK did not use the same vaccines as the US did

[mewzilla]

Folks should check out the banner headline on the “front page” of the UK’s Daily Mail’s website....

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html

“THANKS FOR OUR JABS!”