Why I Stopped Hiring Ivy League Graduates

The Wall Street Journal ^ | 6/7/2021 | R.R. Reno

[Dr. Thorne]

I’m not inclined to hire a graduate from one of America’s elite universities. That marks a change. A decade ago I relished the opportunity to employ talented graduates of Princeton, Yale, Harvard and the rest. Today? Not so much.

[Reily]

One of the problems in engineering education is that engineering labs as we used to know them are dying. In many places labs are replaced by software simulation. Not even close to being the same thing ! The main reason for this is maintaining labs to a standard where they are educationally useful is expensive. Colleges and universities would rather put that money on a diversity administrator. Secondary reason is the naive notion is “everything is software” or will be soon and all the cool kids are doing it. Also the pressure on engineering curriculum to make space for SJW nonsense. Got to keep the degree program at 4 years so something has to give. So what is given up - the labs, at least the physical aspect of them. They're expensive so they have a big target on on them.

[FormerFRLurker]

Someone drives a Ferrari around town with the license plate “NOCOLLEGE”. I really would like to meet this guy. I see the car in traffic about once a month.

Mr. FFRL and I both went to college and survived with our traditionalist views intact, just sayin'. The world doesn't need any more easily triggered SJWs, but it does need more doctors and engineers. Good luck getting more of those without colleges.

[Professional Engineer]

We hired a PhD electrical engineer. He didn’t know that you could put a diode in backwards. What are they teaching in school these days? Not everything can be solved with a computer simulation.

When I was in Engineeering school a million years ago, there were many students that only chose EE for the $$$. So many had not touched a soldering iron or resistor until they got into the required labs. I’ve been melting solder since age 9.

[Professional Engineer]

Mwhuhahahahahaha

[ExNewsExSpook]

When your degree is in sociology, women’s studies or gender studies, it’s that, or a job that involves explaining the customer’s latte options...

[Mr.Unique]

We hired a PhD electrical engineer.

A former boss, also a PhD electrical engineer, once told me he had to go home to meet the dryer repair man.

He described the problem and I asked if he checked the dryer door switch. He seemed to have no idea how a dryer worked.

It was the door switch.

[ml/nj]

We hired a PhD electrical engineer. He didn’t know that you could put a diode in backwards.

Pretty lousy interview process, I guess.

ML/NJ

[apocalypto]

Good quote.

[Labyrinthos]

Another reason (or excuse) to hire foreign, H-1 STEM workers.

[Reily]

Here’s my question when I see kid’d working on or with those degrees, “Did their parents have a say in the degree program? They’re likely the ones paying for it !’.

I know many parents of my generation went through the Depression and were of the mind set that any college degree meant a ticket at least into the middle class. That clearly changed (If it ever was true!) say by the 1970s certanly by the 1980s. I told my kids “NO HOBBY DEGREES!”. If they insisted then they had to double major a “hobby degree” plus a employable degree. I was a “bad guy” for awhile for being so rigid to my wife both sets of grandparents. However I was proved correct all ended up with STEM degrees (Note I didn’t insist on STEM degrees, just an “employable” degree - business, etc. !) plus “hobby degrees” - classics & music. All now married and productive. I only did “I told ya so !” to the “naysayers” at family gatherings for only a few years afterward.

[bagster]

I used to date a guy who was a Harvard grad. He was an out-of-touch snob and also, absent minded!

When I was a kid, I read this book by I forget who (mighta been Isaac Asimov).

In it, the human race was entirely house bound, and connected up to computers. Their physical bodies had evolved and atrophied from sitting around all their life, but their heads were HUGE, cause they were so 'smart'.

Animals had either evolved, or been genetically engineered (I forget) until they were human-like, walking on two legs and speaking English.

I think they even got opposable thumbs cause they ran the world just as humans used to do, while the real humans never saw the sun or went outside.

I see many parallels in modern America and the western world. Substitute non-white, third worlders for Asimov's (?) animals and white people for humans, and he was trying to tell us something.

(is that racist?)

These Ivy Leaguer lefty derps are well on their way to Asimov's world.

(if it warn't Asimov, it was some other top sci-fi writer. Wish I could remember, I'd like to read it again).

[17th Miss Regt]

The Ivy League schools of Law and Business should be burned to the ground, the land sown with salt, and the “professors” driven naked into the howling wilderness.

Heh-heh! C'mon, man, tell us what you really think!

[central_va]

U of Md is a brutal Darwinian educational experience. Especially in STEM.

[SueRae]

Thanks for the book tip. i’ll bet I’m not far from one...

[Jeff Chandler]

We hired a PhD electrical engineer.

Years ago I designed and built a rather large mother-in-law house, marshalling the labor from family and friends. I made the mistake of enlisting an electrical engineer friend to run the electrical wiring. The dummy fished the Romex through the conduit one circuit at a time, scratching the insulation. I had to redo it myself.

[SueRae]

I saw this when my daughter was in middle school when 0bama was running. As soon as you discounted him you were racist. The schools were captured early..

[Gay State Conservative]

When judging Ivy League grads just consider William F Buckley and Jacob Rees-Mogg in Britain. Jacob's speeches/comments in the British Parliament are very,very impressive indeed.

[SueRae]

If my daughter was to attend college, it would be Hillsdale!

[bert]

For the record....... Buckley is dead and irrelevant to the current discussion

[Chad C. Mulligan]

This is news? Thirty years ago my wife’s father, who was then president emeritus from a large Boston bank, told me he’d learned never to hire any Harvard B-School grads, because it took too much time and effort to retrain ‘em.