[CedarDave]

Ping to ShadowAce, dayglored

[Dr. Sivana]

I like menu bars, not “hamburgers”.

[SeekAndFind]

I boycotted Mozilla’s products ever since they forced their CEO Brendan Eich to resign for simply making a quiet donation of $1,000 to California Proposition 8, which called for supporting traditional marriage in California.

Eich has since developed the BRAVE browser. I’ve been using it for over a year and I found it to be faster, easier to use and relatively secure compared to the Firefox browsers.

[MarineBrat]

Sounds like another instance of a project manager justifying his existence by changing the look and feel of something that already works.

[ShadowAce]

[cuban leaf]

I went to the Avast secure browser years ago. I do occasionally have to use Chrome on incompatible sites - about once every six months - but I like it a lot.

It also has two new features: I can download any youtube video as either an mp3 or a 720p video. And youtube videos are completely commercial free.

[CedarDave]

Another link for Firefox support:

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewforum.php?f=49

[monkeyshine]

Ugh not again. They did a total revision of firefox a couple of years ago. Destroyed everything, all add-ons, lost bookmarks etc. Why would they ever think of doing something like that? It’s like a new and improved bottle of shampoo made with Nair.

[Openurmind]

New feature they have always had...

“PerformanceEventTiming”

Every drag&drop, keystroke and click is connected to an outside API. TRACKING to every fine detail.

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/PerformanceEventTiming

[Revel]

Very good to know. What a bunch of incompetents they are.

[Chode]

NEW Coke anyone?

[Still Thinking]

So if you like your Firefox, you can’t keep your Firefox? 😂

[SunStar]

This is a perfect time to switch to the Brave browser. All the features of Google Chrome without the spying and with built-in ad blocking.

[SkyDancer]

Are bookmarks saved in the profile folder?

[Bloody Sam Roberts]

I like 43 and have customized it to my liking. My company laptop keeps foisting v83 on me despite all attempts to block it.

So, I keep a copy of the v43 install pkg on my desktop, install it after uninstalling v83 and then using MozBackup to restore my profile. I have to do this about once per week. But, it's better than using v83.

[Repeal The 17th]

I froze mine and stopped updating it at V 55.0.3
It is customized just the way I want it.

[dayglored]

For what it's worth, the changes I saw when I updated to 89 were pretty minimal. My settings got applied a little differently in the new design, but they were still all there. I wouldn't call it disruptive enough to avoid.

Other than the tabs and hamburger menu, the only other change I saw was in GreasMonkey for FreeRepublic, the editing buttons look a little different. No big deal.

[lastchance]

Thanks for the warning. I somehow managed to download the new version and I hated it the whole 10 minutes it was on my computer. I tried to download the previous version but got confused (as happens too often these days). I ended up doing a system restore. I changed my settings too. Should it happen again, how does one re-install the older version?

[daniel1212]

"Simplified browser chrome and toolbar:"

No, no , no. If you want a browser that presumes you are a clone that does not care much about customization and expanded capabilities, and is greatly inferior to firefoz ESR 59 (ESR) in that regard, then this trajectory is for them.

I just stopped one of installations of Firefox Quantum Portable (which I use so that I can continued to use Firefox ESR) which I have enabled multiple tab rows on (thank God), and searching for reviews, i came across this so far:

weavejester 9 hours ago [–] My initial reaction to the beta version was that the UI was much worse, but I decided to give it a chance and spend a few weeks trying to get used to it. Now that I've had time to play with it, I'm even more convinced my initial reaction was correct. But I've also had time to reflect on why, and in my view there are two problems with this new design. Removing visual separators from the tabs makes them much harder to distinguish - the only difference between one tab and the next is a larger horizontal space. In prose, when we want to separate sentences, we don't just use longer spaces; we use other visual indicators like capital letters and full stops (periods). Paragraphs are separated by vertical space, which is visually distinct from a horizontal one. The second problem is that the tab you're not supposed to click on (the active tab) looks like a button, while the tabs you are meant to click on (the inactive tabs) are presented as text. This is opposite to normal UX conventions. There are some subjective improvements to the look and feel of this UX change, but overall I'm confused as to why the Firefox UX team would go against established conventions to produce something that's visually more difficult to use and less intuitive than they had before. Fortunately userChrome.css is still usable if you set an about:config option (toolkit.legacyUserProfileCustomizations.stylesheets), so I can see about fixing the problem myself, but I'm concerned that Firefox's march toward reduced configurability will eventually remove this option. Overall, my concerns on Firefox are the same as most; in the pursuit of market share, they're moving further and further away from their roots by removing customisation options. Remember when you could change Firefox's theme without using hidden configuration options? I wrote this a month ago re. Edge as i had found it, but for what it is worth: it seems that mainly due to security and speed aspects, then unlike legacy Firefox ESR 59.9 with Tab Mix Plus and a few other extensions. which enabled more key customization than the whole of Edge, which the below critique is aimed at, but much applies to browsers of that engine of which Vivaldi is part of but is the best of the bunch. : You cannot make it show multiple tab rows (you can with Firefox Quantum but it takes one [1]of the hacks and you can also obtain in Vivaldi). And unless the latter is a portable version, it cannot run concurrently with FF ESR) You cannot adjust max or min tab width. And the more you open the thinner they get, and all look the same. (except the active tab has an close You cannot close a non-active tab by just placing your cursor on it the top right to get a X to click on (so unless you activate it, you need to R. click on it and hit close tab). You cannot enable different colored tabs as with the legacy Colorful Tabs extension (NOT the one in Quantum). You cannot choose to open links in other installed browsers via right click. You cannot toggle btwn the most recently accessed tabs using the Ctrl+Tab switch (and its Alt+Tab alternative messes up switching btwn applications). Edge has a very poor spell checker and the dictionary is hard to find in the drive even if you could edit it (as you can with that of Firefox). [But the LanguageTool extension is a vast improvement. For Vivaldi and Chrome also.] You cannot create more than one profile (as far as i know). I know no extension that saves your text box posts such as this, like the Lazarus legacy FF extension did/does. [But the Typio Form Recovery may be good if not spying.] MS does not make it easy to set another browser as the default one for all html documents and links (details too long for here). There is no option to keep the Find/Search bar open across tabs (handy in searches), meaning you need to do the search new for every tab. There is no option via right click on a tab to choose “Copy link.” Since MS writes the software for Windows, than it ought to be able to create a real "utility truck" browser - and which I am sure would become a classic for "power users" - rather than just another minimalist Chrome clone. However, although using the same engine, Vivaldi has more options so that some of the above criticisms do not apply to it: https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50835261511_0edaca21c2_c.jpg Footnotes [1]https://github.com/Izheil/Quantum-Nox-Firefox-Dark-Full-Theme/tree/master/Multirow and other functions

[SuperLuminal]

Dumped Firefox 17-months ago and never looked back...