Posted on 04/27/2021 12:36:08 PM PDT by BeauBo
(President Trump's Operation Warp Speed Update)
(A big drop (half speed) in the number of shots given - No J&J yet - Cases and Hospitalizations now heading distinctly downward at the National level)
Total Vaccine Doses Delivered: 297,543,635 (17,642,250 J&J)
Administered: 232,407,669 (8,097,650 J&J)
People Vaccinated, At Least One Dose: 141,751,857
Fully Vaccinated: 96,747,454
(Excerpt) Read more at covid.cdc.gov ...
From Bagipedia:
ex bulchitum fulum caca
Which means, in the latin, that if event Y followed event X, the likelihood that X caused event Y is high. More so if the person was reasonably healthy to begin with.
Tell me this, pharma man. Do you believe that every single stroke (just as an example of negative events) would have happened sans the vax? Are you that far gone?
Will you make any argument to protect your lovely vax, no matter how ridiculous?
We are coming the point where the vaccine is available to everyone who wants it and they can start figuring out who is refusing the vaccine. Minorities are a big number of those. It’s one reason colleges backed off demanding students be vaccinated
Are you playing dense on purpose? The point is, your 'experts' are part of the same burrocracy that Fauci inhabits. They are political animals who pull fake numbers out their bunghole to further their agenda.
They are fist cousins to 'climate scientists'.
Now if you're gonna misconstrue my words and play semantical games, you won't be allowed the privilege my words. You have the honor of talking to me. Don't waste it on word games.
Good point. Modeling this stuff requires complex differential equations -- there are many moving parts.
Also, as the virus works its way through the population more people are exposed to the virus reducing the number of hosts for the virus reducing the need for emergency vaccines.
Yes Q.
Because it helped solve the Vorld’s (German accent) problems.
Because it worked out so well........
Discerning Mind to Cipher = My interpretation (Grey not Black or White)
You’re not fooling me Mister.......I’ve been vaccinated and my brain cells are multiplying faster than anti-vaxxers at a new VAERS report.
It’s like a Cerebral Orgy up in there........
“Do you believe that every single stroke (just as an example of negative events) would have happened sans the vax?
According to the VAERS, we are talking about around 200 strokes in the day after the vaccination, out of about 230 million doses administered. Less than one in a million.
We would expect some number of coincidental occurrences, just due to the math. How many?
Every year, about 800,000 strokes occur in the USA - over 2,000 per day.
About 1% of the population was getting a shot every day, so maybe 20 per day might coincidentally have a stroke on the same day.
But strokes and vaccinations are both more common in older people, so the coincidences would likely be more common as well.
So clearly, the majority, if not every single one, is likely just coincidental.
“as the virus works its way through the population more people are exposed to the virus reducing the number of hosts for the virus reducing the need for emergency vaccines.”
Yes, the risk of getting COVID keeps changing.
It is kind of like the Prisoner’s Dilemma, where the optimum decision for the individual, depends on what other’s do.
If everyone else gets vaccinated (or exposed), the last unvaccinated/unexposed person’s risk becomes vanishingly small.
Just the opposite.
When you talk about strokes in general, you leave out the fact that they got the vax THE DAY BEFORE. And that's not even counting the ones that the killer vax took a few days to percolate.
Your argument is ridiculous and desperate. When you theorize that the vax has NOTHING to do with any negative events, you beclown yourself. And I say that in all seriousness, pharma man.
There. We finally have one of you vax-bots on record.
Say it loud and say it proud. Any stroke the day after the vax is 'just coincidental'.
And Bill Clinton did not have sexual relations with that woman. Monica Lewinsky.
Put another way, you're f'ng yourself.
I won't judge you.
Of course it’s just “coincidental “.
The government and big pharma will never let it be anything else.
As long as the ones who stand to benefit the most with the narrative are the ones pushing the narrative, there’s no reason at all to believe them.
Conflict of interest precludes that.
“You leave out the fact that they got the vax THE DAY BEFORE”
No, I was pointing out the random probability of a vaccination and a stroke occurring on the same day - or the day before, or six days before, or whenever.
If 2,000 people per day (on average) have strokes, and 1% of the population is getting a vaccination each day, just randomly you would expect about twenty people to have a stroke the day of vaccination, the day after vaccination, and so on.
Of course, since strokes and vaccinations are both concentrated in the smaller population of older Americans, you would expect the random number of such coincidences to be even greater than 20, undiluted by the youth ( who are unlikely to have strokes or be vaccinated).
How about all those people who were vaccinated, and THE NEXT DAY won over $100 dollars in casinos, or on lottery tickets? Doesn’t that correlation prove that vaccination causes lottery winning?
No, of course not.
Seriously? That's your argument?
That's as intellectually stupid as the cock crowing makes the sun come up one.
I don't think the lottery has anything to do with health and I also believe that science would agree that taking a vaccine into your body has no possible bearing on winning the lottery.
See what I mean by 'beclowning yourself'?
You people need to understand you're not arguing with children, here.
So, the moral of the story is....there have been no adverse reactions to any vaccine, but if there were any, it would be purely coincidental.
I guess that's your story and you're sticking to it.
“That’s as intellectually stupid as the cock crowing makes the sun come up one.”
That is the Post Hoc fallacy.
That which comes after, is not necessarily caused by that which came before (for example, a vaccination the day before).
Can you finally see that causation is not proven, by any medical issue that occurs after vaccination (or after a cock crowing, for that matter)?
Of course there will be some medical issues after the vaccination, out of sheer coincidence. Vaccination does not make people immortal, or impervious to old age or other illnesses.
Just because one out of a million people had a stroke within a day of the cock crowing (or receiving a vaccination) is not evidence of causation at all, unless it is more than random average.
Strokes reported in VAERS after COVID vaccinations are not more than random average would predict. Neither are CVST blood clots with low platelet counts. Or deaths.
Say it loud and say it proud. Any stroke the day after the vax is 'just coincidental'.
And Bill Clinton did not have sexual relations with that woman. Monica Lewinsky.
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While the calculated est of 350,000 strokes among the vaccinated is hideously low, because so many vax strokes are not being counted, let's work with this undercount for now.
According to vax-bot, 44% of the year's likely total 'just coincidentail' strokes occurred in a 4 month vaccination window strictly among about 30% of the US population within a few days of getting the 'vaccines' at a rate, which if it continued, would render a minimum of 250,000 more strokes than a normal for the year?
(350,000 est. per 4 months X 3 = 1,050,000 strokes for the year) = 250,000 more strokes during the Year of the Vax compared with prior years.
What about strokes among those not yet vaccinated? If we want to limit the year's increase to a miminum undercount of 250,000 excess people having strokes for the year, all those unvaccinated people can't have a stroke. So 70% of the population must be stroke free or BLAM! There goes vax boy's math.
I guess the unvaccinated can heave a sigh of relief because they are gonna be stroke free, amIright?
Say, what if 70% of the population actually strokes at the same rate vax-boi proposes for 'just coincidental' strokes following within days of a vax?
Let's see, the estimated 350,000 vax's among aprox 30% of US population..... 70% divided by 30% = 2.33 X 350,000= 816,666 'just coincidental' strokes among the un vaccinated DURING THAT SAME 4 MONTH WINOW?
The Vaccianted 350,000 strokes + the unvaccinated 816,666 strokes = 1,166,666 strokes for the 4 month window and lets multiply by 3 to get 12 months of 'accidental' strokes = 3,499,998
So an estimated 3,499,998 'Year of the Vax' strokes compared with an average of 800,000 strokes annual without the coincidental vax.
There's a problem with the estimate because they preyed upon the elderly first - the most vulnerable were 'targeted' for vax so the 4 month window will include more strokes and as the elderly are culled, the monthly rate of 'just coincidence strokes will decline'.
However, there are some indications that the elderly are 'dropping like flies' as has been supported by a CNA watching his patients die abruptly and their deaths dismissed as 'Covid superspreaders' or 'he was old' so there's a signficant number of uncounted strokes in the 4 month 'just coincidence' window among the vaxxed.
Then there's anaphylaxis, cardiac events, neurological damage etc. etc. etc. Recurring strokes among those 'not tolerating' the vax will have to be counted, amIright?
Gosh, if only we could use Ivermectin, the inhaler, the HCQ protocol...you know...all those other treatments that don't have estimates of millions of additional strokes.
Yeah....that one was not a good analogy, BB.
And, we had a dear friend who passed, in his sleep, the night of his first shot. He was on no meds and up and around chasing his grands, enjoying family, etc., in the days prior. Also, stroke/heart attack reports, of the vexed, are likely as suppressed as the actual/real china flu infection numbers.
But.....then THAT would do away with the whole *need* for these money making (off of the US tax payer) experimental, unproven agents/shots.....in Pharmaworld, anyway.
The over 140 million people vaccinated, include most of those likely to have strokes - 82% of those over 65, for example. The overwhelming majority of those with previously diagnosed cardiovascular disorders (including prior history of stroke), are also among the subset who were vaccinated.
What is your estimate of how many strokes should be expected after vaccination of that population (out of the roughly 800,000 annual average), if there was no causative relationship whatsoever? How many should be expected out of random coincidence?
Sorry, I don't have any idea, nor do I give much of a 's'. I'm a simple man and I cant' abide your numbers game. I do know this. People are taking the vax , dropping dead, having strokes, miscarriages, and a host of other things one would expect by jamming an unknown weird chemical into their bodies. And that's just in the short term.
You can play your ticky tack numbers and semantic games all day long, but those were not coincidences, as much as you want them to be.
If you want to convince me, then prove they would have stroked out, etc; if they hadn't taken the vax.
Good luck with that.
“Yeah....that one was not a good analogy” (winning on a lottery ticket, after having received vaccine)
It is a good analogy of the Post Hoc fallacy.
That which simply comes before, can not be concluded to have caused that which comes after.
This analogy clearly shows can be absolutely no causative relationship, despite the correlation.
It is a good analogy, because it is so obvious, that there is no causation.
Of course there are strokes after vaccination. That alone does not mean that vaccination caused them.
Vaccination does not make people immune to strokes. They will continue to occur. The sun will rise, whether or not the cock crows (bagster’s analogy, in which he apparently unwittingly made the point of the Post Hoc fallacy, not supporting his own premise of correlation proving causation of strokes by vaccine).
If there were significantly more strokes than would be expected randomly, that would be evidence of a potential problem.
But there are not.
Really, a physiological mechanism of action would have to be identified, and the incidence would have have to high enough above the average, to make a rational argument against using these vaccines. Neither is the case.
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