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Lawmakers ask Biden to issue waiver to make Covid-19 vaccination mandatory for members of military
cnn.com ^ | March 24, 2021 | Ellie Kaufman

Posted on 04/10/2021 7:18:05 PM PDT by ransomnote

[video at link: These soldiers were hesitant to get vaccinated. Hear what changed their minds 02:50]

(CNN)A group of Democratic lawmakers sent a letter to President Joe Biden requesting that he issue a "waiver of informed consent" to make getting vaccinated against Covid-19 mandatory for all US military service members.

CNN obtained a copy of the letter, which was sent on Wednesday from a congressional aide.
Currently the Department of Defense cannot make vaccinations mandatory because they have only been authorized by the Food and Drug Administration for emergency use. A waiver from the President could bypass that rule.
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The Department of Defense has said publicly that the opt-out rate among service members eligible to be vaccinated is about 33%, but last week military officials and service members CNN spoke with from several bases and units across the country suggest the current rejection rate may be closer to 50%.
"I think the true opt-in rate right now would probably be around 50-ish percent," said a military health care source about numbers on a military base of some 40,000 active duty troops. The source spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss vaccinations.
The letter says "disinformation and vaccine skepticism" are influencing service members to opt out of being vaccinated. 

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To: whitney69
A problem with not having the troops vaccinated is that there ae many countries that will not allow unvaccinated people past the border. Unvaccinated travelers arriving from Armenia, Azerbaijan, [...] United Arab Emirates, the United Kingdom, most of central America, or the United States must present a negative COVID-19 PCR test result conducted within 72 hours prior to travel. It would put a huge cost on the US government to secure those tests and places the troop on a non-worldwide status.

Nice equivocation there, whitney69!

"Troops" are treated differently than mere "people" or "travellers." Different rules apply.

Regards,

61 posted on 04/10/2021 11:10:37 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: ransomnote

What a stupid liberal media trope LOL!

The Marines are not a typical American community.
They are, most noticeably, younger.

But liars don’t care about facts. And you’ve earned a reputation for being quite a liar.


62 posted on 04/10/2021 11:16:43 PM PDT by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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To: stylin19a

Agent Orange won’t hurt you.


63 posted on 04/10/2021 11:26:42 PM PDT by satan (The tree of liberty is dying in the drought.)
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To: mrsmith
MrSmith

https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3945783/posts?page=81#81 on  3/28/2021

64 posted on 04/10/2021 11:32:17 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: ransomnote

I repeat:
You’ll post any lie.


65 posted on 04/10/2021 11:47:15 PM PDT by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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To: satan

how about it.


66 posted on 04/10/2021 11:48:40 PM PDT by stylin19a (Golf is a game invented by the same people who think music comes out of a bagpipe.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

What scares me is the potential for the Medicare set.

Himself was forced to use Medicare as his “primary” when he hit that age, despite having much better BC/BS coverage already.

We are NOT getting the Frankenvax but what if they force him to, and eventually, me?

Anyone who doesn’t get the gut feeling that all this crap is born of evil is not paying attention.


67 posted on 04/11/2021 12:07:15 AM PDT by Salamander (Salamander has barbaric tendencies.../Gundog)
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To: Salamander

how will they “force” him to?

its experimental, plus its a violation of the nuremburg laws, among others


68 posted on 04/11/2021 1:12:34 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

How did they force us to accept an illegitimate FOTUS?
How did they force sheep to cheerfully accept muzzles?
How did they convince the whole damn world this was tantamount to being the bastard viral child of Black Plague and Ebola?
How are they managing to deceive the whole world?

Very little is beyond the realm of possibility or even sanity, at this point.

/gonna feel really strange mentioning Nuremburg to whomever

o.O


69 posted on 04/11/2021 3:04:57 AM PDT by Salamander (Salamander has barbaric tendencies.../Gundog)
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To: Mariner
I’m astounded the Pentagon has not ordered this already and are awaiting POTUS directive.

No, none of them has a right to decline this shot. They are property of the US Government.

Nothing astounding about it. It's an experimental treatment, with almost zero testing done to it. Legally, they can't force a single person to get the injection. Furthermore, contrary to what you think, service members are not mindless automatons. They have every right to decline illegal orders. In fact, unless things have changed since I was in, they have a duty to question and deny such orders.

70 posted on 04/11/2021 4:38:34 AM PDT by Turbo Pig ('to close with and destroy the enemy")
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To: Mariner

Just like none of them can claim conscientious observer?
How would you then handle reservists? With your hard line stance? There’s always a “waiver”.


71 posted on 04/11/2021 4:42:28 AM PDT by GMThrust
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To: Newbomb Turk

Judging by past experience, you can probably assume that whatever decision is made by Biden will be the wrong one.


72 posted on 04/11/2021 5:26:57 AM PDT by oldtech
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To: alexander_busek

“Different rules apply.”

As a whole, troops are sent in to accomplish a couple of things not just an attack. Such things as support for the ally we are entering with an intimidating show, secondly to place a foothold of a location to muster an action if needed, and thirdly to actually engage.

So most of what we go in for is not to fight, but to assist. And unless there is all out combat where are going into, the fear of this illness has put a lot of new rules for us to abide by. Just playing the game. But those new rules can sometimes step on old ones.

wy69


73 posted on 04/11/2021 5:41:05 AM PDT by whitney69
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To: ransomnote

“Why would they release the Wuhan bioagent and then help us learn how to combat it?

The purpose of a bio attack is not to kill everyone. The military is equipped with ways to work in that atmosphere with MOP kits and training so they would be hampered, but not in a real danger of being defeated because of it. The real purpose of a bio attack is to make people stop what they are doing to the country that sent it.

There isn’t a country on earth that can survive destroying our supply lines for products like oil and food or our support lines. If China takes out everyone in the US, who’s going to step in and run our operation? By the time they figure it out, if they can, the world is dead meat.

Just the loss of power to everything is an example. No electricity, natural gas, purified water, coal power, about everything will go down rapidly. No car or trucks, no aircraft, no trains, therefore no way to move food even within our own country.

We live in a truly high speed world. If a monkey wrench is tossed in, and humpty falls off the wall, there won’t even be the people to put him back together. There isn’t a country in the world that is self sufficient...including us.

An example of failure is China. China has a huge agricultural sector (farming, forestry, animal husbandry and fisheries) that contributes to 10 percent of its gross domestic product (GDP). Yet they can’t feed their people even with help. And there are a number of reasons why, but they all come down to the bottom line...starvation. And countries like Africa, the Caribbean, and central and south American countries, are catching up fast. If the chain slows or stops, our neighbors will have to come looking for food. That’s how wars are started. And they won’t just be looking here.

wy69


74 posted on 04/11/2021 6:13:19 AM PDT by whitney69
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To: ocrp1982

It was 40% across the board and 57% at one Marine base in S Carolina


75 posted on 04/11/2021 6:18:12 AM PDT by Pollard ( )
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To: Mariner

I served 8 years, 4 as enlisted, 4 as officer. This vaccine BS is out of control. They had no right to give us experimental vaccines, yet they did with threats of court marshal. So, you believe our soldiers, airmen, sailors, and marines are guinea pigs?


76 posted on 04/11/2021 7:11:18 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: whitney69
Different rules apply.

As a whole, troops are sent in to accomplish a couple of things not just an attack. Such things as support for the ally we are entering with an intimidating show, secondly to place a foothold of a location to muster an action if needed, and thirdly to actually engage. So most of what we go in for is not to fight, but to assist. And unless there is all out combat where are going into, the fear of this illness has put a lot of new rules for us to abide by. Just playing the game. But those new rules can sometimes step on old ones.

I'm afraid that we may be talking at cross purposes, or misunderstanding one another.

I am not restricting myself to "war-time conditions."

Even during peace time, U.S. troops can cross many international borders / enter many countries (esp. NATO countries), e.g., without a passport. Rather than a passport, their military I.D. is considered adequate.

I would assume (but I admit that it is only a speculation of mine) that the same applied to such matters as 1) customs (declaring, e.g., how much liquor or coffee they have in their luggage), 2) vaccine booklets, or 3) firearm restrictions. I therefore highly doubt that armed, uniformed U.S. troops entering a foreign country, e.g., on board military aircraft, are required to jump through the same hoops that you or I, as civilians, are required to.

Regards,

77 posted on 04/11/2021 8:27:59 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Salamander
Anyone who doesn’t get the gut feeling that all this crap is born of evil is not paying attention.

I certainly would not call you a "conspiracy theorist" or an "hysterical," Salamander, but I think that you are attributing to malice that which can be just as easily explained by incompetence (Hanlon's Razor).

Regards,

78 posted on 04/11/2021 8:30:53 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: alexander_busek
And looking at myriad miseries the WuFluCoup has perfectly wrought, Occam wept...Alexander
79 posted on 04/11/2021 8:36:18 AM PDT by Salamander (Salamander has barbaric tendencies.../Gundog)
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To: Salamander
And looking at myriad miseries the WuFluCoup has perfectly wrought, Occam wept.

They (the governmental and quasi-governmental bodies, NGOs, political parties, etc.) jumped on the bandwagon and exaggerated Covid's hazardousness - to serve their own ends. But I don't think that they actually planned to do so in advance or in any way instigated the pandemic. They merely knew a good thing when they saw one.

Again, I will not argue against anyone who believes that he has thought longer and harder about this than I have, and has arrived at a different conclusion. I, myself, said from the start that there was a small but not insignificant possibility that Corona was a lab experiment (maybe even a weapons test) gone wrong. From the very start, I asserted that Western governments would be positively loath to investigate or acknowledge that possibility - the prospect of their respective peoples demanding that China be punished would have broken their little international / globalist hearts.

So, keep up the good work Salamander. I do not mean to cast any aspersions upon your arguments. I'm just not that far... yet.

Regards,

80 posted on 04/11/2021 8:45:06 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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