Lawmakers ask Biden to issue waiver to make Covid-19 vaccination mandatory for members of military

cnn.com ^ | March 24, 2021 | Ellie Kaufman

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[video at link: These soldiers were hesitant to get vaccinated. Hear what changed their minds 02:50]

(CNN)A group of Democratic lawmakers sent a letter to President Joe Biden requesting that he issue a "waiver of informed consent" to make getting vaccinated against Covid-19 mandatory for all US military service members.

CNN obtained a copy of the letter, which was sent on Wednesday from a congressional aide.

Currently the Department of Defense cannot make vaccinations mandatory because they have only been authorized by the Food and Drug Administration for emergency use. A waiver from the President could bypass that rule.

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The Department of Defense has said publicly that the opt-out rate among service members eligible to be vaccinated is about 33%, but last week military officials and service members CNN spoke with from several bases and units across the country suggest the current rejection rate may be closer to 50%.

 

US military says a third of troops opt out of being vaccinated, but the numbers suggest it's more

"I think the true opt-in rate right now would probably be around 50-ish percent," said a military health care source about numbers on a military base of some 40,000 active duty troops. The source spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss vaccinations.

The letter says "disinformation and vaccine skepticism" are influencing service members to opt out of being vaccinated. 

[Captain Walker]

That this mandatory vaccine law is being pressed now by democrats just shows the hate and disdain they have for our Troops and for freedom.

And how skeptical people are about the Virtue Vax...

[Mariner]

“Congress passed a law earlier to allow military members to opt out of the vaccine.”

It’s not a law.

It’s an administrative rule within DOD.

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“-they should not have their rights stripped from them because they volunteered to serve.”

Did you serve?

I know when I was in I received untold numbers of shots. And it was not possible to decline.

A good number of times we didn’t even know what we were getting.

I’m astounded the Pentagon has not ordered this already and are awaiting POTUS directive.

No, none of them has a right to decline this shot. They are property of the US Government.

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Experimental vaccines based on mRNA technology with a horrible record of failure, and concealed risks (e.g., Informed consent disclosure to vaccine trial subjects of risk of COVID-19 vaccines worsening clinical disease - PubMed (nih.gov) ) should not be mandated according to the Nuremburg Code of 1947.

According to The Nuremberg Code (1947), “The great weight of the evidence before us to effect that certain types of medical experiments on human beings, when kept within reasonably well-defined bounds, conform to the ethics of the medical profession generally. The protagonists of the practice of human experimentation justify their views on the basis that such experiments yield results for the good of society that are unprocurable by other methods or means of study. All agree, however, that certain basic principles must be observed in order to satisfy moral, ethical and legal concepts:

1. The voluntary consent of the human subject is absolutely essential. This means that the person involved should have legal capacity to give consent; should be so situated as to be able to exercise free power of choice, without the intervention of any element of force, fraud, deceit, duress, overreaching, or other ulterior form of constraint or coercion; and should have sufficient knowledge and comprehension of the elements of the subject matter involved as to enable him to make an understanding and enlightened decision. This latter element requires that before the acceptance of an affirmative decision by the experimental subject there should be made known to him the nature, duration, and purpose of the experiment; the method and means by which it is to be conducted; all inconveniences and hazards reasonably to be expected; and the effects upon his health or person which may possibly come from his participation in the experiment.

2. The duty and responsibility for ascertaining the quality of the consent rests upon each individual who initiates, directs, or engages in the experiment. It is a personal duty and responsibility which may not be delegated to another with impunity.
3. The experiment should be such as to yield fruitful results for the good of society, unprocurable by other methods or means of study, and not random and unnecessary in nature.

4. The experiment should be so designed and based on the results of animal experimentation and a knowledge of the natural history of the disease or other problem under study that the anticipated results justify the performance of the experiment.

5. The experiment should be so conducted as to avoid all unnecessary physical and mental suffering and injury.

6. No experiment should be conducted where there is an a priori reason to believe that death or disabling injury will occur; except, perhaps, in those experiments where the experimental physicians also serve as subjects.

7. The degree of risk to be taken should never exceed that determined by the humanitarian importance of the problem to be solved by the experiment..  

8. Proper preparations should be made and adequate facilities provided to protect the experimental subject against even remote possibilities of injury, disability or death.
9. The experiment should be conducted only by scientifically qualified persons. The highest degree of skill and care should be required through all stages of the experiment of those who conduct or engage in the experiment.
10. During the course of the experiment the human subject should be at liberty to bring the experiment to an end if he has reached the physical or mental state where continuation of the experiment seems to him to be impossible.

11. During the course of the experiment the scientist in charge must be prepared to terminate the experiment at any stage, if he has probable cause to believe, in the exercise of the good faith, superior skill and careful judgment required of him, that a continuation of the experiment is likely to result in injury, disability, or death to the experimental subject.

For more information see Nuremberg Doctor’s Trial, BMJ 1996;313(7070):1445-75.

[PROCON]

It’s not a law.

It’s an administrative rule within DOD.

OK, well, excuuuuuse.....me! 😁

[Mariner]

That would not get you a court date in any jurisdiction in the US.

Please answer, did you serve in the military?

[Captain Walker]

Can the president order these men and women to the desert to take up a position in the vicinity of an atomic bomb test?

You don't sign away your humanity once you join the military; there are still lawful and unlawful orders.

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That would not get you a court date in any jurisdiction in the US.

Please answer, did you serve in the military?
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I just pointed out that forcing experimental vaccines on Troops is against the Nuremburg code and you relapse into asking if I served?

No. I did not serve. However, I still have the right to object to our service men and women being treated like disposable lab rats.

You know what these ‘vaccines’ are based upon? The genome China supposedly gave us for the Covid-19 virus. Yes, after releasing Covid-19 from their Wuhan laboratory, the traitors in our government trusted China to give us the accurate genome to the bioweapon they created, knowing that would give us proof they were attacking us.

Covid-19 was the first part of the bioweapon, weaponized vaccines forced on an unsuspecting public, extorted by withholding all other treatments, is part 2 of China’s attack on us.

Remember the evidence released that showed China’s CCP infiltrated Pfizer? I know I do!

[TribalPrincess2U]

I want to know if it’s mandatory for all prisoners, instead of letting them out on the streets. They might infect people with the rona. semi/s

[Mariner]

“Can the president order these men and women to the desert to take up a position in the vicinity of an atomic bomb test? “

Yes, and it’s been done a bunch of times.

[Trumpisourlastchance]

I wouldn’t stay in the military unless the US were being attacked, which it isn’t.

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Nuremburg Code 1947
https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3949586/posts?page=23#23

[Mariner]

Yeah, you have a right to object. All citizens do.

But you don’t have a right to be taken seriously.

When ordered to get the shot, they’ll all get the shot. Your objection notwithstanding.

[Captain Walker]

Is there any such thing as an "unlawful order"?

If there is, what would it look like to you?

(Would you go out into the desert to be near a bomb blast because the President gave such an order?)

[ocrp1982]

I read 2 different reports about this. One said 57% of active-duty Marines refused the vaccine. Another said, 40%.
I am retired. I went to my base clinic a couple of months ago with my wife for our annual. We were both asked if we wanted the Jab. We both asked if the vaccine is still categorized as EXPERIMENTAL. The answer was, yes. We both told our PCP no thanks.

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Mariner to ransomnote
Yeah, you have a right to object. All citizens do.

But you don’t have a right to be taken seriously.

When ordered to get the shot, they’ll all get the shot. Your objection notwithstanding.
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You’d like me to understand my reasoning is inferior to yours while you argue that the Nuremburg Code should be set aside when it comes to our troops?

I support the Nuremburg Code and our troops. Since we operate from drastically different world views, there’s no point in our furthering our discussion.

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I read 2 different reports about this. One said 57% of active-duty Marines refused the vaccine. Another said, 40%.
I am retired. I went to my base clinic a couple of months ago with my wife for our annual. We were both asked if we wanted the Jab. We both asked if the vaccine is still categorized as EXPERIMENTAL. The answer was, yes. We both told our PCP no thanks.
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I do think they are exaggerating acceptance across the board. Claiming x number have gotten the vax while moving ‘ahead of schedule’ to offer it to lower and lower age ranges as if they can’t give the stuff away.

That’s not something they would admit to those whom they want to convince to take it, “C’mon, why doesn’t anyone want it?!”

[Captain Walker]

I do think they are exaggerating acceptance across the board. Claiming x number have gotten the vax while moving ‘ahead of schedule’ to offer it to lower and lower age ranges as if they can’t give the stuff away.

Add to this the fact that these Dems want the President to compel the shot to military personnel.

The men and women in our military are almost certainly the healthiest and fittest demographic in the country. What on earth would be the upside to any of them getting this?

[TigersEye]

First it will be mandatory for members of the services.

Then for family members of service members.

Then the rest of us.

[Bshaw]

“Probably if I were military I would demand a medical discharge or medical retirement depending on my length of service.”

They already tried this with a mandatory Anthrax vaccination for all military, but the courts said it could not be mandatory as it was approved as an emergency use and experimental treatment.

Just like all the mRNA gene therapies.

Nice try....

[stylin19a]

The military needs to remember how the Biothax program turned out...