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1 posted on 02/17/2021 11:06:52 AM PST by ransomnote
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$1K is a great price for a class “A” firearm.......

Do the Feds have any more for sale? I could be interested...😂


2 posted on 02/17/2021 11:10:17 AM PST by nevergore (I have a terrible rash on my covfefe....)
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I know nothing about Iron Youth. A picture of the alleged perp might enlighten.

I will say I have concerns about illegal dealings when one of the parties is the law enforcement agency brokering the illegal purchase in this case. Would there have even been a crime if not facilitated?

On the other hand, if the alleged perp is a dirt bag with many other offenses, well, Al Capone was put away for tax evasion, you know.


3 posted on 02/17/2021 11:12:28 AM PST by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic...)
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I’ve never heard of the Iron Youth. What did the other four members have to say about his arrest?


4 posted on 02/17/2021 11:12:50 AM PST by cuban leaf (We killed our economy and damaged our culture. In 2021 we will pine for the salad days of 2020.)
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His real crime is belonging to the wrong group?


5 posted on 02/17/2021 11:13:03 AM PST by Leep (Save America. Lock down Joe Biden!)
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white nationalist group called Iron Youth

SOURCE: News Yahoo

6 posted on 02/17/2021 11:14:47 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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“Oliver purchased a fully automatic machine gun from an undercover officer for $1,000”

Where did the PoPo get the gun?


7 posted on 02/17/2021 11:15:01 AM PST by Paladin2
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You can tell who in your group is an undercover agent. He’s the one suggesting you perform an illegal act.


9 posted on 02/17/2021 11:16:02 AM PST by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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Was he making sure that he owned it before 1986 and that he was photographed and fingerprinted and that he was going to pay the $200 USD transfer tax?


11 posted on 02/17/2021 11:16:35 AM PST by OttawaFreeper ("The Gardens was founded by men-sportsmen-who fought for their country" Conn Smythe, 1966 )
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“called Iron Youth, a racially motivated violent extremist group that advocates violence in the furtherance of its objectives.”

Smells bad, have never heard of any group like this, doubt very seriously that Texas Rangers would release this info if in fact this happened like presented.


14 posted on 02/17/2021 11:17:27 AM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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How is this not entrapment?


19 posted on 02/17/2021 11:24:36 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents)(Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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According to other sources, the man arrested hates Jews. Not the typical person to be labeled “racist”.

And they say he is a Neo Nazi.

Guess we will see what the reality actually is.


20 posted on 02/17/2021 11:24:53 AM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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While the ballot boxes were being stuffed with fake ballots by community organizers in the last presidential election, evidently, the FBI was playing "Fantasy Gun Buying", entrapping stupid dorks, to busy to be bothered with things that matter, and could cause actual JUSTIFIED civil unrest .

The Fake Bureau of Intrapment should be dismantled.....the FBI is dangerously silly

21 posted on 02/17/2021 11:25:16 AM PST by KTM rider (Expatriated at home by no choice of my own, living in a socialist country taken over in a coup )
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Caleb Nathaniel Oliver purchased a fully automatic machine gun from an undercover officer for $1,000.

The "Undercover" Officer:

Noted for her "Undercover" work and resulting conviction rate.

24 posted on 02/17/2021 11:31:50 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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What kind of machine gun? We already know that 19 year olds have poor impulse control, that white supremacists are morons, and that the FBI entraps these dolts.
29 posted on 02/17/2021 11:41:33 AM PST by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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Stupid. No one is going to sell an actual submachinegun for $1000. An AR15 costs that much.


32 posted on 02/17/2021 11:43:36 AM PST by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL)
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Will someone please explain to these Right Wing idiot teenagers that 50% of the people in their political clubs are paid FBI informants?


35 posted on 02/17/2021 11:48:28 AM PST by zeestephen
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No photo of the kid... Wonder why? He’s over 18. Most times the msm takes great pleasure in getting a mug shot out with the story.


36 posted on 02/17/2021 11:49:53 AM PST by Mathews (It's all gravy, baby!)
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Only $1000 for a machine gun? I guess he never looked at the prices before.


49 posted on 02/17/2021 12:40:24 PM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes.)
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"Caleb Nathaniel Oliver, age 19 of Smiley, is charged with one count of unlawful possession of a machine gun. Upon conviction, Oliver faces up to 10 years in federal [??? emphasis added] prison."
FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument

The militia-related clauses of Congress's constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers aside, patriots are reminded that the states have never expressly constitutionally given the federal government the specific power to regulate either the peacetime use of firearms, or over the counter sales of guns and ammo imo.

In fact, the congressional record shows that Rep. John Bingham, the main author of the 14th Amendment (14A), had clarified that, until 14A was ratified, the states had never expressly constitutional given the feds the power to make peacetime penal laws, not even for murder.

"Our Constitution never conferred upon the Congress of the United States the power - sacred as life is, first as it is before all other rights which pertain to man on this side of the grave - to protect it in time of peace by the terrors of the penal code within organized states; and Congress has never attempted to do it. There never was a law upon the United States statute-book to punish the murderer for taking away in time of peace the life of the noblest, and the most unoffending, as well, of your citizens, within the limits of any State of the Union. The protection of the citizen in that respect was left to the respective States, and there the power is to-day [emphases added].” —Rep. John Bingham, Congressional Globe. (See bottom half of third column.)

Note that 14A gives Congress the power only to STRENGTHEN rights that the states have amended the Constitution to expressly protect, including 2nd Amendment (2A), from abridgment by state actors.

In fact, the congressional record also shows that Bingham had included 2A when he read the Bill of Rights as main examples of privileges and immunities that 14A applies to the states.

John Bingham, Congressional Globe. (See 2nd Amendment (Article II) about in middle of 2nd column.)

Again, while desperate federal Democrats want to take our guns away to try to stay in power, the only constitutionally express power that they have to make gun-related laws is, ironically, to make peacetime laws that STRENGTHEN gun rights.

So it's up to each state to use it's 10th Amendment (10A) powers to make reasonable, restrictive gun laws, such laws reasonably checked by Congress (ahem!).

In fact, Justice Reed had noted that it was the job of judges to balance 10A-protected state powers with 14A-protected rights.

"Conflicts in the exercise of rights arise and the conflicting forces seek adjustments in the courts, as do these parties, claiming on the one side the freedom of religion, speech and the press, guaranteed by the Fourteenth Amendment, and on the other the right to employ the sovereign power explicitly reserved to the State by the Tenth Amendment to ensure orderly living without which constitutional guarantees of civil liberties would be a mockery.” —Justice Reed, Jones v. City of Opelika, 1942.

It is disturbing that federal peacetime gun regulations seem to have started appearing in the books during FDR Administration, FDR and the Congress at that time infamous for making laws which they had no express constitutional authority to make.

Franklin Roosevelt: The Father of Gun Control

Finally, for the sake of argument, even if 2A was to disappear from the Constitution, it remains that the feds have no constitutionally express power to make peacetime, restrictive gun laws.


50 posted on 02/17/2021 12:45:12 PM PST by Amendment10
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They picked some low hanging fruit.


55 posted on 02/17/2021 1:38:03 PM PST by sport
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