A new Party?

01/26/2021 | 1of10

[1of10]

A new Party?
Why?
We already own the old one.

With the victory of Donald Trump we saw the result of the Conservative movement that started with the TEA party effort some years ago.
All that remains is to clear out the old deadwood that clings to the bottom of the ship.
Look at the big map, a lot of red on there. And with the wind of change that Donald Trump has brought with him, we should be able to clean house right down to the local dog catcher..
But .. and yes there is a but ... Trump has brought the rats and the scalawags out of the shadows. He tore off the mask of hypocrisy that so many of our trusted pols hide behind. They can't hide now.
It's time to clean out the GOP. It all starts at the local level.
Did your local GOP party chair support Trump?
If not, then you know this is job 1, throw them out.

Did your councilmen support Trump?
Did your mayor support Trump?
Did your local state Representative support Trump?
Did your election supervisor support Trump?
How about school board members?

Start with the ones closest to the people. It should be clear where they stand, and don't put up with any "get em next time ". If they didn't openly vocally support Trump then throw them out. The only reason that we have rinos running the show anywhere is that we let them.

Then it's time for the secretary of state, the governors, congressmen.

If you want honest elections take control of the election supervisor position.That is a local position.

The easiest spot to get is the GOP chair for your area. Will you do the work it takes?
You, yes I mean YOU!
You want another party so you can go to the polls and look down a different list of names. Where do you think those names come from, how do you think they get on the ballot? If we don't have the fortitude to use what we have already won, we will never bring a slate of "new party" candidates to the field.

We have been working to build a conservative party for years, Donald Trump was the culmination of that effort.
All the "johnny come latelies" should get off their behinds and get involved with the WORK. (I'll go ahead and apologize for the "johnny come lately" comment, but I couldn't help getting a snarky remark in here somewhere).
I know the process of finding good candidates who will serve is a daunting task, but it has never been clearer who needs to be primaried and who needs support. Donald Trump has cast a light on the battle like never before. It's up to us to take the field.

All politics is local.

[johnthebaptistmoore]

The Left cheated their way to victory, and they made sure that the only LEGITIMATE political party is The Democratic Party! Now, the GOP is dead. Conservatism is dead. Capitalism is dead. Free and fair elections don’t exist here, anymore. This is a third world country, and all of The Mess isn’t, even, here, yet!

[Trump Girl Kit Cat]

Your opinion!!! Many here feel the same way I do, you still support republicans go right ahead and continue to be stabbed in the back your choice!!

[Olog-hai]

It has everything to do with the OP. Local politicians are just the same as the swamp ones, as are the state-level ones, and the bureaucratic DC state extends its control all the way down to local level. And the electoral process is in the swamp’s control, and particularly subverted by the supposedly-independent judiciary—as Thomas Jefferson once noted in his letter to Spencer Roane (dated 09/06/1819), “It should be noted as an axiom of eternal truth in politics that whatever power in any government is independent is absolute also”.

Now the notion of a new party means not only one that can attract a massive number of new adherents, of course, but also one that can wrest the control of elections and the certification thereof from the usurped system. So in a sense, it’s a bit of a false dilemma to choose between the GOP (one branch of the Uniparty) and a new party unless those problems are overcome.

[1of10]

2020 Scott County Republican Committee Mass Meeting Thursday, March 12, 2020”

The first thing you will need is a flux capacitor, and a Delorean ... 2020 .. but you have the right spirit.

So now you have taken the first step, be proud of yourself and take the next one.There is probably a meeting coming up soon. You'll find it.
And find a friend to go with you.
Don't worry about what to do. You'll learn as you go.

[CFW]

Alas, we don’t have millions of dollars to throw at these local elections like Soros has and does. His purchase of the Secretaries of state in numerous states who are both Republicans and Democrats, gave this “election” to the Communist/Democrat Party. Soros is actively buying secretaries of state and States and district attorneys. These DAs are who are refusing to charge criminals just turning them loose to continue their depredations. Lenin said that criminals are the social allies of the Communists because they keep the people begging the government for protection and keeps them unsettled and fearful and thus easier to control.

We do not need millions of dollars. We simply need people willing to show up at on the local level to direct policy. One you have made sure you local precinct has a conservative platform, you take that to the county level. Once you have a conservative county policy, you take that district-wide. Once you have a conservative district policy, you take those districts to the State. It can be done in two years. In states that are trending blue, you can reverse that trend IF you get involved.

With regards to District Attorneys, once you take it regional, you will probably find an attorney somewhere in that group. Encourage him or or her to run for the DA position. They will not need millions of dollars, they will simply need the local support. You can pull that support from grass root activism. How do you think the left got where they are today? It is because THEY are doing the things that I just outlined in my paragraph above.

[mrsmith]

Like I told the OP we’re philosophers and ‘keyboard warriors’ here. I think you two represent that.

I want, and I want others here, to learn about local involvement.

[1of10]

you still support republicans go right ahead and continue to be stabbed in the back

I am a republican, I will never stab you in the back.

[mrsmith]

You’re just making fun of me.
Are we really more ignorant of these things than you can even imagine?

Hey, that may be LOL!

[Olog-hai]

And like I said, the swamp got there long before us. Ignoring their involvement will only result in more disappointment, and more names on lists, if we let this go on. All of the moves of the swamp are about centralization and the nullification of any actions at local level.

[mrsmith]

Yeah: “Here’s why we can’t win.”
Thanks, still some of us are so deplorable we keep trying.

The OP has an idea that you seem it sufficient to disparage by saying nothing more than “Oh but our masters rule!”.

Yeah, I’m too much the philosopher to understand what’ll be going on but I’ll show up at my GOP Party’s meeting and do whatever I can figure out to do to help.

You can feel so justified staying home at your’s (and if it’s Cook County who can blame you).

[CFW]

Conservatives just want to be left alone to live their life and be free. The left wants to control everyone around them and make sure all obeys the left's dictates. We cannot allow them to assume they will always be able to set the narrative.

Conservatives cannot allow that to continue. Everyone on FR who are physically able should be finding out when their next county GOP meeting is to be held and show up at the meeting (preferably with a couple of friends)and start making their voices turn into GOP policy.

Do not continue to complain about your state's election laws if you are not at your local meeting expressing your views and working to change those laws.

Those that are not able to attend a meeting should be calling their representative asking what will they be doing in 2022 to insure that there is no doubt about the results of the election.

[Olog-hai]

Don’t put words in my mouth. Of course we can win, but we need the right tactics. Playing the enemy’s game simply plays into their hands, as does ignoring history.

Franklin Roosevelt’s rapid conversion from Constitutionalism to the doctrine of unlimited government is an oft-told story. But I am here concerned not so much by the abandonment of states’ rights by the national Democratic Party — an event that occurred some years ago when that party was captured by the socialist ideologues in and about the labor movement — as by the unmistakable tendency of the Republican Party to adopt the same course. […] Thus, the cornerstone of the Republic, our chief bulwark against the encroachment (on) individual freedom by Big Government, is fast disappearing under the piling sands of absolutism.

The Republican Party, to be sure, gives lip service to states’ rights. We often talk about “returning to the states their rightful powers”; the Administration has even gone so far as to sponsor a federal-state conference on the problem. But deeds are what count, and I regret to say that in actual practice, the Republican Party, like the Democratic Party, summons the coercive power of the federal government whenever national leaders conclude that the states are not performing satisfactorily. …

— The Conscience of a Conservative (1960), pp. 24-25

If involving oneself in one’s local GOP can overcome this decades-old machine, then explain how. There is a lot of foreign money stacked against us in that game, just so you know, including at local level.

[Olog-hai]

What will attending the local meeting achieve in terms of upending what is tantamount to a foreign power calling the shots? Money talks, as the saying goes, and it has been talking very sweetly to the GOP long before I was born.

And don’t conflate conservatives with libertarians, please.

[Ancesthntr]

Anyone who wants a 3rd party, won’t after reviewing the “success” of the Bull Moose Party of wildly popular ex-President Teddy Roosevelt.

[Bell Bouy II]

I am absolutely amazed at the negativity thrown out there by too many here at a positive and very possible start of a fix to a system that is broken.
Amazed
S Gorka has been pounding this same drum for a few weeks now and it makes perfect sense.
Get involved locally.
Especially in states and communities that liberals are flocking to after destroying what they created in the hell holes they are fleeing.
Get involved locally or they will be trashing your town and state. Don’t want to than don’t, your choice but don’t shoot the messenger if the idea and thought process presented by 1of10 doesn’t align with your defeatism.

[CFW]

What will attending the local meeting achieve in terms of upending what is tantamount to a foreign power calling the shots?>br>
I know it is frustrating, but if you attend local meetings you are a part of setting local policy. Local policy turns into regional policy, and regional policy turns into State policy.

For too long, Conservatives have stayed at home and expected their "betters" to know what they wanted. When that didn't happened, we just complain. Voting is one way to be heard, but is no good if the left controls the counting of the votes. If you get involved in local politics you will find you are not the only one frustrated and you can help make the change in election laws.

I was shocked years ago when I went to my first GOP meeting and found out that my local precinct had no local captain and co-captain. How could there be no one willing to represent my community. So, I took on that role. I have no college education and am a simple secretary. Where were all the "experts" I thought to myself. I simply assumed my conservative principles were being represented in my community by those that were "in the know". I was wrong. So, I became the person "in the know" without knowing much about the mechanics but knowing I believed in God, Freedom and the Constitution. It made a difference.

[PerConPat]

My conservative political activities that met with success at the local level were satisfying but rare in a locality dominated by Rats, Rhinos and moderate independents. And all I can speak to are city/county level politics. But I learned in that 15 or so years that without a cause that cuts cleanly across ideology, conservative issues in blue and purple locales are in deep kimchi.

Hesitantly applying lessons to the national level, Reagan had a bad economy to fix, Bush II had a full-blown and fast moving foreign threat, Trump had a nation tired of the swamp and its scum like the Clintons etc.. Now the Rats have responded with their characteristic deceit in a new and improved version.

I can't see a third party, if and/or when, being ready for market until the Mummy and his handlers have more time to screw up things even more. While discussing third parties, however, it is worthwhile to remember how the Whigs fell apart. They looked pretty good in early 1852 and were out on their donkeys in 1855. But like it or not, and I don't like it., the Rats will have as much to do with the prospects for a third conservative party as we do. And I speak as a solid "C" history major.

[mrsmith]

As a local official “I” would not care a whit of foreign money.
Without my influence maybe that money would have influence.

Something to consider about the OP’s post.

[central_va]

Because the GOP will not let go of globalism. The GOP is not a nationalist party. It is not pro worker. It's in the GOP's DNA.

A new party can be nationalist, pro worker and anti globalist from the start.

Plus I just hate the GOP. I would say we are 50-50 whether the next GOP nominee for President is a RINO like Nikki Haley.

[central_va]

We get Nikki Haley I will stay home in '24. Here me GOP!!!!