But they're trying to impeach President Trump for "Insurrection".
And trying to throw out of Congress, those who voted to Stop The Steal.
Shove it, you lying vermin.
I’m astounded at first by your statement, and then realize it must be that you believe the MSM has been faithfully reporting election results.
Again, dear FRiend, you must realize I am not relying on the MSM at all in my OP to this thread. Indeed, my claim(s) rest on the thread from Twitter I posted, a thread that relies on facts alone, not on any MSM interpretation. A thread made by a no-name person, who's identity isn't important (nor his political motivations), because facts are facts. Please, to summarize, you must throw away this apparent reflex of yours that what I said previously is based on some MSM article. It's not. It's based simply on the court cases, and the decisions available to all to see. It has nothing to do with anything anyone from the MSM says, which, I can assure you, I spit upon, I spit upon the MSM for their decades long betrayal of the American citizen for decades.
If you objectively reviewed campaign efforts, how can you justify the Biden campaigns claim that he received more votes than Obama?
Because Trump himself received more votes than Obama. That's the essential thrust of my response to your question. But please allow me to elaborate:
Yes it's true that Biden campaigned very little, while Trump nearly probably killed himself campaigning so much. But that doesn't really prove much because those who attended Trump's rallies (which again of course were substantially more than what attended Biden's) didn't represent a significant portion of any electorate as a whole in any given state. To put in real numbers, say 500,000 attended a Trump rally in any given state (a number vastly more than any reasonable estimate but just for the sake of argument) while only 10 attended a Biden rally. In any of the states in question, there were many more people than 500 thousand, and also, one simply *must* consider that Biden supporters were, for the most part, afraid of COVID infections in large crowds, for whatever reason (right or wrong) it doesn't matter. The numbers at a rally in 2020, given the hype and fear porn surrounding COVID, especially those on the left bought hook line and sinker, don't necessarily prove a lack of enthusiasm for Biden, or more precisely, the level of dislike for Trump.
How can you make evidence dissappear? Live taping of campaign results feeds that flip 20,000 out of Trump’s votes which immediately show up in Bidens? Suitcases full of ballots, endless violations of election laws? Shipments from China, ballots on wrong papers, conservative’s ballots printed outside of specs to be rejected etc?
Can it be that you don’t realize that the courts are corrupt but the President pursued every effort to seek justice anyway because the public has to understand that martial law was the only way to restore our election process. With fake elections we become Venezuela.
With all due respect, all of those objections, at least the vast majority, are addressed and shown conclusively to be false in the Twitter thread I provided, namely and specifically (but not limited to):
"Live taping of campaign results feeds that flip 20,000 out of Trump’s votes which immediately show up in Bidens? "
"endless violations of election laws"
"conservative’s ballots printed outside of specs to be rejected"
and "Can it be that you don’t realize that the courts are corrupt ". (at least half of the court cases documented that thread are decided by Trump appointees, so how far does this "conspiracy" go, until one must ask oneself reasonably, this is just not tenable to believe?)
Consider this fact dear ransomnote (and anyone else reading this with an unbiased mind): Notice the conspicuous absence in that Twitter thread of any court cases (so far) related to the results in Georgia, AND the fact that Trump himself, in the last week or so, hasn't really focused on any court case, hasn't really claimed anything more about any other state other than Georgia, since at the very least Jan 3.
Have you ever asked yourself why he hasn't really done so, at least since Jan 3? Why he only wanted to have a phone call with the Sec of State of GA and no one else? Because he knew that the other court cases were lost, and, perhaps, still believed there was something nefarious to discover in GA but again I submit that given the results in the OTHER states, it's a fantasy to believe anything nefarious happened there, especially since ultimately as I said from the beginning even if there WAS something nefarious there, it WILL NOT CHANGE THE RESULT. TRUMP WILL *NOT* be president Jan 20.
It's sad really, because if there was something nefarious in GA, then it will all be lost, all be swept under the rug, as just another "conspiracy theory" because and precisely because of the results in the other states' court cases. And that is the reason I'm posting now, because any real voter fraud that DID occur (and make no mistake FRiend, I do believe SOME occurred just not enough to overturn the election), if we focus on all of these wacky theories in some desperate, reality denying effort to overturn the election at THIS point, the REAL voter fraud will never be exposed and corrected.
Not to mention again, the incredible damage to conservatism such continues to inflict, if we don't accept reality and move on.
There is none so blind as those who refuse to see. The fact that you calmly chatter on ignoring all things pointed out to you means you are duplicitous and are here not to learn but to dictate derpdom.
Plonk troll...
” the incredible damage to conservatism”
Put your glasses on that is NOT the perception I see.
I see the huge damage to the lying, unethical democratic party.
Perception is a strange character and plays with the rules of the beholder.
Dear 47!
You had your one nice reply from “Dear” Ransomnote. (Look out for the oil slick!)
My thoughtful consideration is that after your second reply you are a diversion and a troll. I don’t think you give a crap about how what we believe reflects badly on you with your Democrat “Friends.”
“Not to mention again, the incredible damage to conservatism such continues to inflict.” (yes...INCREDIBLE!!)
Sure, you are hurt that ANY of the congressums voted NOT to certify because it makes us look craazy!!!
We get that you like to pretend to represent Conservatism. Do you know how painful it is to have your wobbley thinking associated with the right? (Nah...just kidding. We don’t care what you think.)
No, no open mind at this point, its not over and we are going to see how this plays out and you are just a distraction. (Such poor timing!!)
Set up your shop off thread and maybe we’ll see what you’re selling in a month or two if we have enough Social Credits to still get internet access.
Thanks for your input “factchecker”
You think I should accept that a senile old pervert who couldn’t get 30 people to a rally, who has close ties to China got more votes than President Trump? And I am not interested in the bridge you are selling! You are a sad, sad person. Even if you got the Biden you seem to want you can’t honestly deny the fraud
Very far FRiend. Blackmail and corruption know no party bounds.
To put in real numbers, say 500,000 attended a Trump rally in any given state (a number vastly more than any reasonable estimate but just for the sake of argument) while only 10 attended a Biden rally. In any of the states in question, there were many more people than 500 thousand.
O.K. so basically you're saying that sampling is meaningless indicator of the behavior, or preference of a population. All legitimate polling is based on making predictions about the population at large by looking at a sample of that population.
...and also, one simply *must* consider that Biden supporters were, for the most part, afraid of COVID infections in large crowds, for whatever reason (right or wrong) it doesn't matter.
The evidence of weak public support for Biden goes beyond rally attendance. It also includes the paucity of viewers for Biden events, press conferences, town halls, etc. Consider this fact dear ransomnote (and anyone else reading this with an unbiased mind): Notice the conspicuous absence in that Twitter thread of any court cases (so far) related to the results in Georgia, AND the fact that Trump himself, in the last week or so, hasn't really focused on any court case, hasn't really claimed anything more about any other state other than Georgia, since at the very least Jan 3.
My dear, dear FRiend, notice that you are not addressing the merits of the cases but rather are relying on the judgement of courts that have refused to even give a full hearing of the evidence, because, once again, you are granting a degree of integrity to our courts that is not warranted. Could it be that Trump's failure to seriously pursue any cases since Jan. 3rd indicates that he recognizes the futility of seeking judicial relief from a corrupt judiciary?
With all due respect, all of those objections, at least the vast majority, are addressed and shown conclusively to be false in the Twitter thread I provided.
With all due respect, my dearest FRiend, no they haven't.
I said from the beginning even if there WAS something nefarious there, it WILL NOT CHANGE THE RESULT. TRUMP WILL *NOT* be president Jan 20.
You are wrong dear FRiend. But there's no point in arguing about it. How about you just come back here on Jan. 20th and see who's right? Deal?
Uh No, one MUST NOT consider such a thing at all. We saw more Biden supports at every RIOT they had all summer long. Biden supporters were not that afraid to gather. You just posted a narrative right there.
at least half of the court cases documented that thread are decided by Trump appointees, so how far does this "conspiracy" go, until one must ask oneself reasonably, this is just not tenable to believe?
Well, now, that would be the wrong question. The correct question would be 'How did legislation pass that does not allow voters or candidates to have standing to file a lawsuit challenging an election? All cases that were dismissed were dismissed for 'standing', not on merit or the facts. How does that happen, better yet why would that happen? Could it be that politicians of all political persuasions have been cheating in elections for decades? The very people who get 'elected' to craft this legislation?
As for your speculations regarding Trump's strategy and Georgia, it's just that. Your speculation.
just not enough to overturn the election
We will only know for sure if the people are allowed to see the facts...not narratives and speculations like yours. All these conspiracies you speak of would end if the actual facts are made available to the people. But, we see how important it is to Biden and his comrades to make sure the results are never audited. Seems odd, since they are so sure they won and screamed for 4 years about election fraud. Seems they would prefer that all these 'conspiracies' would stop and if they believed they really won they would love to shove in Trump's face with facts. Instead they resort to gaslighting and censorship. (Just giving us a little preview of what they have in store for us I suppose)
because the public has to understand
This is the kind of phrase self-important people use when they are trying to convince the 'lesser' people.
Not to mention again, the incredible damage to conservatism such continues to inflict, if we don't accept reality and move on.
Reality is relative. Just whose reality should we all accept? Your suggestion that we accept their reality and move on is exactly why we ended up where we are today....on the brink of becoming a communist country. Just 'accept' what we are told to believe. Yeah, that's the ticket
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ransomnote: Again the inference that my response is unthinking. Nice touch. /s
The only way I can resolve your opposition to factual data is to assume you got it from the MSM. If you did not, that makes me wonder where you did get it.
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FourtySeven: It has nothing to do with anything anyone from the MSM says, which, I can assure you, I spit upon, I spit upon the MSM for their decades long betrayal of the American citizen for decades.
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ransomnote: But you agree with them, so there's that.
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If you objectively reviewed campaign efforts, how can you justify the Biden campaigns claim that he received more votes than Obama?
FourtySeven: Because Trump himself received more votes than Obama. That's the essential thrust of my response to your question.
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ransomnote: So the MSM labeling those not voting for Obama racists, putting a halo on Obama's head (Literally) and campaigning for him 24/7 was actually unecessary because Biden can stay in his basement, admit on camera he had an epic vote fraud system in place, and summon 14 people to his largest campaign event and still do better than Obama?
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FourtySeven: But please allow me to elaborate:
Yes it's true that Biden campaigned very little, while Trump nearly probably killed himself campaigning so much. But that doesn't really prove much because those who attended Trump's rallies (which again of course were substantially more than what attended Biden's) didn't represent a significant portion of any electorate as a whole in any given state.
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ransomnote: Are you aware your assertions contradict past elections and the basis upon which election projections, the stock market, world relations etc. base their predictions?
If what you said were true, no one would have any reason to anticipate any outcome every time there was an election.
Your method requires discarding of all observable data and the assumption that MIA, hair-sniffing Joe and his determination to maintain lockdowns was just that much more appealing.
No sale.
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FourtySeven: To put in real numbers, say 500,000 attended a Trump rally in any given state (a number vastly more than any reasonable estimate but just for the sake of argument) while only 10 attended a Biden rally. In any of the states in question, there were many more people than 500 thousand, and also, one simply *must* consider that Biden supporters were, for the most part, afraid of COVID infections in large crowds, for whatever reason (right or wrong) it doesn't matter. The numbers at a rally in 2020, given the hype and fear porn surrounding COVID, especially those on the left bought hook line and sinker, don't necessarily prove a lack of enthusiasm for Biden, or more precisely, the level of dislike for Trump.
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ransomnote: Your observations are not tethered to observable detail, facts etc. The fans lining up hours early throughout President Trump's term must, by your reckoning, mean absolutely nothing.
Objections to Biden's plans, the fact that Biden is a Democrat who drove Hispanics, Blacks to cross the aisle in record numbers, based on observable detail, means nothing in your calculations.
When Biden ran for president last time, he obtained zero delegates. When Kamala ran for president - zero deleages.
Trump won in 2016 and that means nothing compared with those who ran against him and got zero delegates?
You are freighting Covid with far more than it can carry.
There were car rallies for Trump 97 miles in length, each car safely isolated from Covid-19 exposure.
Same with boat rallies. You have to erase Trump's accomplishments for 4 years and make up some fake ones for Biden to claim for his decades in office, because he has none.
Look outside the 2020 elections and you see a stable history of our Stable Genius renovating and repairing the damage done by Obama/Clinton/Bush. Biden is nothing, and has nothing to show for it, after decades in "public service."
President Trump spent 4 years in office and did amazing things that people said couldn't be done.
You are freighting Covid with far more than it can carry.
There were car rallies for Trump 97 miles in length, each car safely isolated from Covid-19 exposure. Same with boat rallies. You're not going to get far claiming "Covid done it!"
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How can you make evidence dissappear? Live taping of campaign results feeds that flip 20,000 out of Trump’s votes which immediately show up in Bidens? Suitcases full of ballots, endless violations of election laws? Shipments from China, ballots on wrong papers, conservative’s ballots printed outside of specs to be rejected etc?
Can it be that you don’t realize that the courts are corrupt but the President pursued every effort to seek justice anyway because the public has to understand that martial law was the only way to restore our election process. With fake elections we become Venezuela.
FourtySeven: With all due respect, all of those objections, at least the vast majority, are addressed and shown conclusively to be false in the Twitter thread I provided,
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ransomnote: The left dismisses 240 pages of documented legal evidence by pointing to a Twitter Feed all the time. Given that anti-Trumpers won't admit proof exists, why should I go read Twitter and refute the assertions line by line by cross referencing with a 240 legal document written in legalese?
The left doesn't want to know - they are actively ignoring evidence because that's the only way they can resist the fact that Trump won bigly. If they admitted evidence exists - game over.
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FourtySeven: Consider this fact dear ransomnote (and anyone else reading this with an unbiased mind [rnote: emphasis mine]):
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ransomnote: There it is again, your inference you will respect agreement and will consider all other responses as iligitmate (proof of bias). Why don't I just assume your refusal to admit to documented facts is a result of your bias? Fair is fair, right?
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FourtySeven: Notice the conspicuous absence in that Twitter thread of any court cases (so far) related to the results in Georgia, AND the fact that Trump himself, in the last week or so, hasn't really focused on any court case, hasn't really claimed anything more about any other state other than Georgia, since at the very least Jan 3.
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ransomnote: Notice the conspicuous presence of 240-page documented evidence proving election fraud?
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FourtySeven: Have you ever asked yourself why he hasn't really done so, at least since Jan 3? Why he only wanted to have a phone call with the Sec of State of GA and no one else? Because he knew that the other court cases were lost, and, perhaps, still believed there was something nefarious to discover in GA but again I submit that given the results in the OTHER states,...
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ransomnote: It was apparent early on that the vast cheating in GA was done with approval of the Governor and other upper level officials. Only the Governor can STOP THE STEAL for GA. But the Governor is part of the steal.
Recall Pompeo said in an address to governors that teh Trump Administration had proof many were collaborating with China.
It was clear from the start that China/DS bought, paid for this election.
You disregard 4 thousand plus legally binding affadavits from witnesses, analysis of the voting software, the fact that numbers of votes received was assigned to a floating point decimal in the software, the softare is documented to have been developed for Hugo Chavez, China owns the software through shell companies etc. etc.- all this evidence you wish away and you want me to wish it away too, or you'll say I'm biased.
The military is the only way (Martial Law - new election). The PResident is just showing the public WHY it's necessary.
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FourtySeven: it's a fantasy to believe anything nefarious happened there, especially since ultimately as I said from the beginning even if there WAS something nefarious there, it WILL NOT CHANGE THE RESULT. TRUMP WILL *NOT* be president Jan 20.
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ransomnote: It's a fantasy if you think Americans are going to allow our country to become Venezuela (fake elections) nice 'n quiet just to avoid being falsely accused of bias or fantasy.
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FourtySeven: It's sad really, because if there was something nefarious in GA, then it will all be lost, all be swept under the rug, as just another "conspiracy theory" because and precisely because of the results in the other states' court cases.
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ransomnote: So we're a conspiracy theory if we point to thousands of affadavits, forensic analysis of the software, and mountains of evidence that you feel can be dismissed in some tweets?
You think it was possible to steal only GA and win?
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FourtySeven: And that is the reason I'm posting now, because any real voter fraud that DID occur (and make no mistake FRiend, I do believe SOME occurred just not enough to overturn the election), if we focus on all of these wacky theories in some desperate, reality denying effort to overturn the election at THIS point, the REAL voter fraud will never be exposed and corrected.
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ransomnote: Epic.Levels.Of.Fraud.So.Large.It.Broke.The.Theft.Algorithm.
And you want to shame us into silence by saying we're desperate, reality-denying?
We're not inadvertently covering up evidence of REAL voter fraud - you are denying it exists and trying to shut down those who think it matters.
What kind of evidence WOULD you accept of voter fraud if you breezily dismiss the 240 pages of documentation tracing funding, software development, softare forensics, proof that the computers were connected to the internet, sworn affadvits, the stunt where the GA re-election numbers were toyed with via the internet etc.
Apparently, having ruled out documented evidence so breezily, you will only accept a full Twitter confession on the part of China, Italy, Germany etc.
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FourtySeven: Not to mention again, the incredible damage to conservatism such continues to inflict, if we don't accept reality and move on.
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ransomnote: You can become a slave to China if you wish. We will not serve our enemies.
We will not lie down when they confront us. WE ARE NOT LIKE YOU.
Go ahead, assert the information I used to rebut you proves I'm "biased". You've read all the way to the end so now's the time to deploy it.
But they're trying to impeach President Trump for "Insurrection".
And trying to throw out of Congress, those who voted to Stop The Steal.
Shove it, you lying vermin.
Why did so many of these states stop counting at around 9 PM?
Then resume counting in the middle of the night, with hundreds of thousands of pro-Biden (sometimes, ONLY Biden) votes coming in, in the middle of night?
Why did they say at one site, they had to stop counting "because they ran out of printer ink" ?
Why did President Trump tweet back on June 22, that there would be millions of ballots printed in other countries?