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To: FourtySeven
FourtySeven Please, to summarize, you must throw away this apparent reflex of yours that what I said previously is based on some MSM article.

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ransomnote: Again the inference that my response is unthinking. Nice touch. /s

The only way I can resolve your opposition to factual data is to assume you got it from the MSM. If you did not, that makes me wonder where you did get it.

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 FourtySeven: It has nothing to do with anything anyone from the MSM says, which, I can assure you, I spit upon, I spit upon the MSM for their decades long betrayal of the American citizen for decades.

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ransomnote: But you agree with them, so there's that.

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If you objectively reviewed campaign efforts, how can you justify the Biden campaigns claim that he received more votes than Obama?

FourtySeven: Because Trump himself received more votes than Obama. That's the essential thrust of my response to your question.

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ransomnote: So the MSM labeling those not voting for Obama racists,  putting a halo on Obama's head (Literally) and campaigning for him 24/7 was actually unecessary because Biden can stay in his basement, admit on camera he had an epic vote fraud system in place, and summon 14 people to his largest campaign event and still do better than Obama?

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FourtySeven: But please allow me to elaborate:

Yes it's true that Biden campaigned very little, while Trump nearly probably killed himself campaigning so much. But that doesn't really prove much because those who attended Trump's rallies (which again of course were substantially more than what attended Biden's) didn't represent a significant portion of any electorate as a whole in any given state.

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ransomnote: Are you aware your assertions contradict past elections and the basis upon which election projections, the stock market, world relations etc. base their predictions?

If what you said were true, no one would have any reason to anticipate any outcome every time there was an election.

Your method requires discarding of all observable data and the assumption that MIA, hair-sniffing Joe and his determination to maintain lockdowns was just that much more appealing. 

No sale.

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FourtySeven: To put in real numbers, say 500,000 attended a Trump rally in any given state (a number vastly more than any reasonable estimate but just for the sake of argument) while only 10 attended a Biden rally. In any of the states in question, there were many more people than 500 thousand, and also, one simply *must* consider that Biden supporters were, for the most part, afraid of COVID infections in large crowds, for whatever reason (right or wrong) it doesn't matter. The numbers at a rally in 2020, given the hype and fear porn surrounding COVID, especially those on the left bought hook line and sinker, don't necessarily prove a lack of enthusiasm for Biden, or more precisely, the level of dislike for Trump.

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ransomnote: Your observations are not tethered to observable detail, facts etc. The fans lining up hours early throughout President Trump's term must, by your reckoning, mean absolutely nothing.

Objections to Biden's plans, the fact that Biden is a Democrat who drove Hispanics, Blacks to cross the aisle in record numbers, based on observable detail, means nothing in your calculations.

When Biden ran for president last time, he obtained zero delegates. When Kamala ran for president - zero deleages. 

Trump won in 2016 and that means nothing compared with those who ran against him and got zero delegates?

You are freighting Covid with far more than it can carry.

There were car rallies for Trump 97 miles in length, each car safely isolated from Covid-19 exposure.

Same with boat rallies.  You have to erase Trump's accomplishments for 4 years and make up some fake ones for Biden to claim for his decades in office, because he has none.

Look outside the 2020 elections and you see a stable history of our Stable Genius renovating and repairing the damage done by Obama/Clinton/Bush. Biden is nothing, and has nothing to show for it, after decades in "public service."

President Trump spent 4 years in office and did amazing things that people said couldn't be done.

You are freighting Covid with far more than it can carry.

There were car rallies for Trump 97 miles in length, each car safely isolated from Covid-19 exposure. Same with boat rallies. You're not going to get far claiming "Covid done it!" 

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How can you make evidence dissappear? Live taping of campaign results feeds that flip 20,000 out of Trump’s votes which immediately show up in Bidens? Suitcases full of ballots, endless violations of election laws? Shipments from China, ballots on wrong papers, conservative’s ballots printed outside of specs to be rejected etc?

Can it be that you don’t realize that the courts are corrupt but the President pursued every effort to seek justice anyway because the public has to understand that martial law was the only way to restore our election process. With fake elections we become Venezuela.

FourtySeven: With all due respect, all of those objections, at least the vast majority, are addressed and shown conclusively to be false in the Twitter thread I provided,

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ransomnote: The left dismisses 240 pages of documented legal evidence by pointing to a Twitter Feed all the time. Given that anti-Trumpers won't admit proof exists, why should I go read Twitter and refute the assertions line by line by cross referencing with a 240 legal document written in legalese?

The left doesn't want to know - they are actively ignoring evidence because that's the only way they can resist the fact that Trump won bigly. If they admitted evidence exists - game over.

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FourtySeven:  Consider this fact dear ransomnote (and anyone else reading this with an unbiased mind [rnote: emphasis mine]):

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ransomnote:  There it is again, your inference you will respect  agreement and will consider all other responses as iligitmate (proof of bias). Why don't I just assume your refusal to admit to documented facts is a result of your bias? Fair is fair, right?

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FourtySeven: Notice the conspicuous absence in that Twitter thread of any court cases (so far) related to the results in Georgia, AND the fact that Trump himself, in the last week or so, hasn't really focused on any court case, hasn't really claimed anything more about any other state other than Georgia, since at the very least Jan 3.

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ransomnote: Notice the conspicuous presence of 240-page documented evidence proving election fraud?

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FourtySeven: Have you ever asked yourself why he hasn't really done so, at least since Jan 3? Why he only wanted to have a phone call with the Sec of State of GA and no one else? Because he knew that the other court cases were lost, and, perhaps, still believed there was something nefarious to discover in GA but again I submit that given the results in the OTHER states,...

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ransomnote: It was apparent early on that the vast cheating in GA was done with approval of the Governor and other upper level officials. Only the Governor can STOP THE STEAL for GA. But the Governor is part of the steal.

Recall Pompeo said in an address to governors that teh Trump Administration had proof many were collaborating with China.

It was clear from the start that China/DS bought, paid for this election. 

You disregard 4 thousand plus legally binding affadavits from witnesses, analysis of the voting software, the fact that numbers of votes received was assigned to a floating point decimal in the software, the softare is documented to have been developed for Hugo Chavez, China owns the software through shell companies etc. etc.- all this evidence you wish away and you want me to wish it away too, or you'll say I'm biased.


The military is the only way (Martial Law - new election). The PResident is just showing the public WHY it's necessary.

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FourtySeven: it's a fantasy to believe anything nefarious happened there, especially since ultimately as I said from the beginning even if there WAS something nefarious there, it WILL NOT CHANGE THE RESULT. TRUMP WILL *NOT* be president Jan 20.

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ransomnote: It's a fantasy if you think Americans are going to allow our country to become Venezuela (fake elections) nice 'n quiet just to avoid being falsely accused of bias or fantasy.

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FourtySeven: It's sad really, because if there was something nefarious in GA, then it will all be lost, all be swept under the rug, as just another "conspiracy theory" because and precisely because of the results in the other states' court cases.

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ransomnote: So we're a conspiracy theory if we point to thousands of affadavits, forensic analysis of the software, and mountains of evidence that you feel can be dismissed in some tweets?

You think it was possible to steal only GA and win? 

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FourtySeven: And that is the reason I'm posting now, because any real voter fraud that DID occur (and make no mistake FRiend, I do believe SOME occurred just not enough to overturn the election), if we focus on all of these wacky theories in some desperate, reality denying effort to overturn the election at THIS point, the REAL voter fraud will never be exposed and corrected.

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ransomnote:  Epic.Levels.Of.Fraud.So.Large.It.Broke.The.Theft.Algorithm.

And you want to shame us into silence by saying we're desperate, reality-denying?

We're not inadvertently covering up evidence of REAL voter fraud - you are denying it exists and trying to shut down those who think it matters.

What kind of evidence WOULD you accept of voter fraud if you breezily dismiss the 240 pages of documentation tracing funding, software development, softare forensics, proof that the computers were connected to the internet, sworn affadvits, the stunt where the GA re-election numbers were toyed with via the internet etc.

Apparently, having ruled out documented evidence so breezily, you will only accept a full Twitter confession on the part of China, Italy, Germany etc.

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FourtySeven: Not to mention again, the incredible damage to conservatism such continues to inflict, if we don't accept reality and move on.

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ransomnote: You can become a slave to China if you wish. We will not serve our enemies.

We will not lie down when they confront us. WE ARE NOT LIKE YOU.

Go ahead, assert the information I used to rebut you proves I'm "biased". You've read all the way to the end so now's the time to deploy it.

1,196 posted on 01/11/2021 8:24:20 PM PST by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: ransomnote
tl;dr

Only response needed is ...you know.

"Sod Off, Swampy"

or

"...AND the Panda you rode in on."


1,198 posted on 01/11/2021 8:28:11 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: ransomnote

https://media.thedonald.win/post/cD96puOv.jpeg

If anyone else can make a pic out of this, please do so.


1,210 posted on 01/11/2021 8:39:32 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: ransomnote; FourtySeven
Whoa. Whose this 47 douche?

Never seen that name ever on FR.

Looks like a huge derp slipped under the wire. I don't think I've ever seen so many lies from one person. Handled very well, Ms. Note.


1,222 posted on 01/11/2021 8:50:14 PM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas.")
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To: ransomnote

47, thank you for saving us from ourselves, oh my, I almost believed my lying eyes. But I sniffed a little ozone in your discourse. Will someone second a Zot?


1,227 posted on 01/11/2021 8:52:12 PM PST by notted
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To: ransomnote; FourtySeven
And please, again, stand down before we on the right are considered all conspiracy theory lunatics.

This is the key phrase I picked out of the derp's post. And he brings it to the heart of FR's resistance, the last core group of patriots willing to fight the derp takeover. Interesting, neh?

If they can't shut us down, they want us to 'stand down', and they will go to incredible lengths to make it so. Now they send in a derp shill who 'hasn't posted in a while' to laboriously and in great deal tell us how stupid, gullible, and full of sh*t we are to think that there was election fraud.

This will be the narrative going forward, as we now see the derps claiming we are domestic terrorists and attempting to shut down any and all discussion of the stolen election.

Gotta tell ya, Mister 47, yours is a valiant effort, though transparent. Seeming all sincere and caring, even spitting on the 'MSM' like a good 'conservative'.

Trouble is, derpo, you are now trying to psyop a group that is immune to derp tactics. Take your crap sammich out beyond the trees where the sheep live. You have no power here.

In other words, piss off.


1,238 posted on 01/11/2021 9:03:27 PM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas.")
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To: ransomnote

You are such a nerd. Love it 💘 😻 💜 💛


1,280 posted on 01/11/2021 9:39:23 PM PST by CJ Wolf (#wwg1wga #Godwins hat is scarier than offensive words? Not being able to say them.. )
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To: ransomnote

FourtySeven Please, to summarize, you must throw away this apparent reflex of yours that what I said previously is based on some MSM article.
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I can’t believe you wasted your time on this guy - you must have been in a fightin mood to bother


1,283 posted on 01/11/2021 9:42:56 PM PST by bitt (When you tear out a man's tongue you are not proving him a liar, you show fear what he might sa)
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To: ransomnote

When the Himalayan peasant meets the he-bear in his pride,
He shouts to scare the monster who will often turn aside.
But the she-bear thus accosted rends the peasant tooth and nail,
For the female of the species is more deadly than the male. ...

...Man, a bear in most relations, worm and savage otherwise,
Man propounds negotiations, Man accepts the compromise;
Very rarely will he squarely push the logic of a fact
To its ultimate conclusion in unmitigated act.

Fear, or foolishness, impels him, ere he lay the wicked low,
To concede some form of trial even to his fiercest foe.
Mirth obscene diverts his anger; Doubt and Pity oft perplex
Him in dealing with an issue - to the scandal of the Sex!

But the Woman that God gave him, every fibre of her frame
Proves her launched for one sole issue, armed and engined for the same,
And to serve that single issue, lest the generations fail,
The female of the species must be deadlier than the male. ...
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Queen of She-bears!


1,299 posted on 01/11/2021 9:51:39 PM PST by Melian (For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it might cost, I am willing to know the whole truth..., )
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To: ransomnote

Epic.


1,448 posted on 01/12/2021 1:04:06 AM PST by TrueFact (Dark to light....might be time.)
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To: ransomnote
the incredible damage to conservatism such continues to inflict, if we don't accept reality and move on.

Ahhhhh the deep state narrative in full vs. obscured form. This is a significant milestone - the trolls appear to realize that facts are facts and they're not convincing anyone of anything. WWG1WGA :)
1,573 posted on 01/12/2021 7:30:39 AM PST by Steven W.
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