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At least he's not hiding behind a press release.

There he is making his case...

1 posted on 01/07/2021 1:43:04 PM PST by RandFan
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The Republican road to riches:

1. Elect me so I can stop them.
2. Now that I’m elected, I don’t have the power.
3. Re-elect me so I can stop them.


2 posted on 01/07/2021 1:46:20 PM PST by cmj328 (We live here.)
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The optics are not good, regardless.

He’s there talking about state’s rights, while the Orcs have already taken over the city.


3 posted on 01/07/2021 1:46:39 PM PST by PGR88
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What is this sh*t about “verdict of the States”? Please correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t MULTIPLE states request (at the last minute0 to de-certify the fraudulent electors? And didn’t CON-gress refuse to allow it?

Sometimes Rand Paul is flat-out brilliant. Other times, he comes across as dumber than a box of rocks.


4 posted on 01/07/2021 1:48:34 PM PST by AFB-XYZ (Option 1 -- stand up. Option 2 -- bend over.)
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Sorry, nut state senators from 3 states requested the vote be held off for 10 more days...there is a precedent for this...until the fraudulent election issues could be dealt with and until they could see if the results changed the winner. Was that too much to ask?


5 posted on 01/07/2021 1:48:42 PM PST by Shery (Pray for righteousness to be restored and for the peace of Jerusalem.)
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So mr Paul you are ok with election fraud? Banana republic BRA


6 posted on 01/07/2021 1:49:09 PM PST by eeriegeno
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What a fool. He could vote no to every disputed state.


7 posted on 01/07/2021 1:50:04 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Hope is not a plan. -- Matthew Bracken)
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Sounds like the physical accosting from the leftist mobs is still fresh in his mind. Good luck dealing with them, Senator. You’re on your own now. I’m not sure I speak for other conservatives, but here’s my middle finger.


8 posted on 01/07/2021 1:53:45 PM PST by CatOwner (Don't expect anyone, even conservatives, to have your back when the SHTF in 2021)
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From a related thread…

Just as with Pence, post-17th Amendment ratification Paul is ignoring that their oaths to protect and defend the Constitution include guaranteeing each state a republican form of government which includes guaranteeing vote-counting integrity imo.

"Article IV, Section 4: The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government [emphasis added], and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence."

An example of electoral vote fraud in this election is the following imo. Electors are constitutionally intended to act independently of state governors and legislatures imo. So the alleged certification of electoral votes by governors instead of electors in some cases, and alternate destination of electoral votes in Electoral Count Act violate the chain of custody of electoral votes from electors to vice president specified in the 12th Amendment imo.

Excerpted from the 12th Amendment: "The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice- President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate [emphasis added]; […]"

Also, the Civil War Union States had ignored any electoral votes of the Confederate States in the 1864 election.

"Because eleven Southern states had declared secession from the Union and formed the Confederate States of America, only twenty-five states participated in the election." — Presidential election of 1864

10 posted on 01/07/2021 1:56:14 PM PST by Amendment10
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I respect Rand, even though I disagree with him, at least in result.

The problem with principled federalism in this situation is national — no, international — socialism focuses its efforts at each micro-level state election, and it ceases to be a federal issue.

The GA “Senators” were elected using California elites’ money with a giant Soros-funded Army of activists.

There is no one one state can resist this crush.

They could flip Montana.

And once in, there is never again a free and fair election.

It’s forever fixed.


11 posted on 01/07/2021 2:00:21 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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Poser and loser. Hopefully his neighbor pays him another visit.


12 posted on 01/07/2021 2:03:23 PM PST by IgnorerOfLiberals
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Paul is a liar and thinks he is fooling us. Shame on him.


15 posted on 01/07/2021 2:10:01 PM PST by jmaroneps37
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Rand Paul is a traitor.


17 posted on 01/07/2021 2:20:19 PM PST by nagant
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He can’t vote to overturn the verdict of states?

States that have violated the constitution, its laws and defrauded MILLIONS Of people belonging to all the several states including the citizenry of their own states!!!

You respect federalism when everyone is playing by the rules! We are a union of sovereign nation states... and not one or several can dictate to the rest; which is why we have a senate and house! But now we have a collusion of house and senate subversives who wish to dissolve the union and republic from within, erase our borders and rule over us with central authority and totalitarian control as a single land/population mass!

But Rand Paul says he wants to protect the EC and Federalism??!! From what?! These traitors want to DESTROY IT!!

These states have been infiltrated and corrupted by enemies of the United States! By an enemy who wish to destroy America; its constitution and its existence?

The states have been taken over by INVADERS! They have defrauded the majority will of their citizenry and have suppressed dissent, stifled free thought and free will. The people of these states have had their individual rights violated and censored!

Their votes were STOLEN from them!

These rouge states are no longer of the union and have violated the contract of statehood. They are no longer lawful adjoined states with allegiance to the constitution, federalism and the laws that govern them!

These radical hate-filled anti-American insurgents must be purged and taken down!


20 posted on 01/07/2021 2:22:42 PM PST by Bellagio
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It is pathetic how these Republican’s can talk about states rights and how the vote must be accepted. Votes should be sacrosanct, but only legal votes. People like Rand Paul, Graham, McConnelly etc don’t want to address the fraud and voting machine crimes because it is too hard. They have no problem taking rights away from States if it suits them. They are phoneys and are using the states rights excuse to justify their inaction in the face of rampant fraud in those swing states that didn’t even follow their own laws.


21 posted on 01/07/2021 2:23:50 PM PST by falcon99 (qu)
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Sure you could have, unless you had a gun to your head.


22 posted on 01/07/2021 2:26:31 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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Rand Paul's argument would have some merit if it were not true that federal courts regularly rule on the ways in which states conduct elections, and the federal government has enacted laws that regulate in detail how states can conduct elections. If states are truly able to select their electors any way they want to how can the federal government and courts have jurisdiction over them?

How can the voting rights act apply to states if they have an unfettered right to select presidential electors any way they want?

Rand Paul is simply wrong. If Rand Paul really believed his own words he would have to argue that the United States Government had no authority over how the states select presidential electors, or how they conduct presidential elections. He doesn't believe that, but is just saying words he hopes nobody thinks about.

24 posted on 01/07/2021 2:27:55 PM PST by freeandfreezing
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What if the States overturned the verdict of the people’s votes??

Rand Paul is a pussy who always looks for an excuse to bitch, bitch, bitch, but NEVER accept or offer a solution to anything, and he always finds faults with anyone else offering solutions.


25 posted on 01/07/2021 2:28:28 PM PST by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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These Republicrats think they will thrive under the largess of their Democrat benefactors. That will be true until the Democrats spend back to the ground the Republicrats are standing on. It happened to Romney and McCain. By then it will be impossible for them to turn to their conservative allies. They won’t have any.


26 posted on 01/07/2021 2:29:04 PM PST by nagant
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Ok Paul. I can’t vote GOP anymore.
Onward to the MAGA Party.


28 posted on 01/07/2021 2:34:12 PM PST by tennmountainman ( Liberals Are Baby Killers)
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The equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment trumps Article 2 and the 12th Amendment. The contested states owe the rest of us a fair, honest election. They have a duty to be competent. They have failed in that duty.


30 posted on 01/07/2021 2:35:45 PM PST by nagant
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