You mean like the tens of thousands of closely monitored volunteers who participated in the Phase 1, Phase 2, and Phase 3 clinical trials over the course of several months?
We already had guinea pigs. They all survived. Some of them had a headache and muscle soreness for a little while.
I support everyone’s right to make their own decisions about what’s best for their individual health and wellbeing, but the contention that they’re being asked to be guinea pigs - as if these vaccines weren’t already thoroughly tested through the normal approval process - is absurd. They’ve been tested. They’ve been evaluated. They’re safe and effective. These are the Trump vaccines. The sooner people get inoculated the sooner the excuse for why we must shut down the economy vanishes.
The more I post past 10 pm my time, the more my brain shuts off.
There won’t be an end to the lockdowns. You’re living in fantasyland if you think they’ll ease up restrictions.
The vaccine is no different than an annual flu vaccine. Millions of people choose not to get the flu vaccine. For something that is 99.97% survivable, I’ll take my chances thanks.
You mean like the tens of thousands of closely monitored volunteers who participated in the Phase 1, Phase 2, and Phase 3 clinical trials over the course of several months?
We already had guinea pigs. They all survived. Some of them had a headache and muscle soreness for a little while.
Not even close to have been safely tested 6 months is meaningless in safety and effectiveness for such a low risk disease when the cure is DNA altering and 99.97 percent infected survive. Checkback in 5 years a minimum for declaring a vaccine is ssfe much less effective
You mean like the tens of thousands of closely monitored volunteers who participated in the Phase 1, Phase 2, and Phase 3 clinical trials over the course of several months?
We already had guinea pigs. They all survived. Some of them had a headache and muscle soreness for a little while.
Not even close to have been safely tested 6 months is meaningless in safety and effectiveness for such a low risk disease when the cure is DNA altering and 99.97 percent infected survive. Checkback in 5 years a minimum for declaring a vaccine is ssfe much less effective
What magical world do you live in that you think this is actually about a virus? I really wish I shared your optimism.
“We already had guinea pigs. They all survived.”
What will be the side effects, long-term, of these guinea pigs? Also, there hasn’t been enough time to know how babies of pregnant women can be affected by Mom getting the vaccine.
Of course, testing wasn’t adequate. But I’m all for “my body, my choice”, so if people choose to do it, then fine.
Mom is 96 — in the vulnerable demographic — and said she won’t take it.
These do not have approval.
They have EUA. Slightly different. I’ll wait several rounds of vaccinations, but certainly not taking it right out of the gate.
Let’s be sure we understand what an EUA is before they decide to expand the definition recently.
Why FDA’s Issuance of EUAs are not ‘approvals’ and why that matters
Posted 03 April 2020 | By Zachary Brennan
Patricia Zettler, assistant professor of law at Ohio State University and a former FDA lawyer, explained to Focus via email: “I think it’s really important that patients, healthcare professionals, and the public understand that emergency use authorizations are *not* the same as standard FDA approvals or authorizations.
“Typically we think of FDA authorization as meaning that there is data and information that in the agency’s view shows the product is safe and effective for its intended use. For example, to approve a drug, FDA must determine that there is ‘substantial evidence’-—consisting of adequate and well-controlled investigations-—that the drug will have the effect it is intended to have. An EUA, on the other hand, can be authorized if ‘it is reasonable to believe that . . . the product may be effective.’ The EUA standard is simply a lower standard, and everyone should understand that.” https://www.raps.org/news-and-articles/news-articles/2020/4/why-fdas-issuance-of-euas-are-not-approvals-and-wh
I’m not sure I want a “vaccine” that mainly stops the severity of the symptoms rather than stopping infection, and which won’t negate the lockdowns/mask mandates - but you are correct - if it saves more lives by mitigating symptoms w/o having a critical “gotta get treated” period, then it’s a boon and confidence booster. and those who beat it to death disregard that they’re attaching President Trump.
Just like they freaked when 4 of 30K (1 in 7500) had Bells Palsy episodes - when it strikes 4 times that rate (1 in 1800) in the regular population.
>>> You mean like the tens of thousands of closely monitored volunteers who participated in the Phase 1, Phase 2, and Phase 3 clinical trials over the course of several months?
What about the challenge study? Was anyone aware that it’s unlawful to conduct challenge studies with humans?
What is a challenge study???
That is where they expose the vaccinated subject to the real virus or variant in the wild.
They do it in the animal trials... thats ok... just not ok with humans.... until now... because they SKIPPED THE ANIMAL TRIALS!!!
Guess what happens when they PREVIOUSLY did challenge studies with this type of vaccine?
The subjects (animals) immune system over-reacted and in many cases died.
Thats ok though, because they can just blame the deaths on a new strain... like Covid-20... and give everyone a new booster.
And did the study include a look at likely female infertility? No, it was a rush job for a cold virus vaccine that has eluded all attempts to make one until the political virus hit.
I’m with you on all that. But, assuming the central claims in this article and its sources are true, and they seem to be coming from a pretty credible source (CBS LA reporting on a UCLA survey and their own follow up), doesn’t this beg the following question?
We have been told, constantly, for months, that the hospitals are blood baths of dying Covid patients and are constantly on the brink of collapse and that our front line medical workers are overwhelmed, exhausted, traumatized, and dying left and right. Accordingly, we’ve been told we need to shut down our lives and wear masks everywhere primarily to protect our hospitals and our health care workers from being overrun.
Why, then, are a majority of those health care workers in SoCal refusing a vaccine that has been tested on millions of subjects, and why are none of the hospitals in the area compelling them to take it?
Why do they fear the vaccine more than the virus?
Why should one more person shut down his business, lose his job, or be forced to wear a mask in public to protect the hospitals and nurses when they won’t take a safe, effective vaccine to protect themselves?