Posted on 09/29/2020 4:19:05 AM PDT by C19fan
Fighting raged again between Armenia and Azerbaijan last night as the two ex-Soviet nations battle over a disputed region in a conflict which could erupt into a proxy war between Russia and Turkey.
Azerbaijan aired footage of two Armenian tanks being blown up on the battlefield while Armenia claimed to have taken out 80 armoured vehicles, 49 drones and four Azerbaijani helicopters as of Monday night.
Armenia warned today that it would deploy more destructive weapons in the conflict because of what it described as an Azerbaijani offensive, saying the fighting had been 'elevated to a new level'.
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
“...while German chancellor Angela Merkel called for an ‘immediate ceasefire’ and France called for an ‘immediate surrender’ for both sides.”
Armenia used to be a much larger country, till the mooselimbs showed up.
Now, Armenia has retained their mountainous areas.
Always tough to take out an army hunkered down in mountains (Afghanistan, Switerland..)
I agree. I would not help Turkey even if they were attacked by Aliens.
They’ve been saying that since 1945.
And it’s been true sine 1945...................
“...speaking of a power vacuum left behind by American disengagement under the current administration...”
Think about it. That was really kind of an offhanded compliment for Trump. The US administration was keeping the peace there.
My question though...why do the Americans have to be the only adults in the room?
In a static war, yes. In a mobile war tanks would still have some value. Of course you’re going to lose a lot of them at the point of attack, which is why Herr General Guderian said with regard to tank employment, “Don’t dribble, POUR!”
Yet everyone keeps building them by the thousands.
Tanks should not be deployed offensively until air superiority has been achieved. In mountainous open country they are also vulnerable.
“Under the treaty we Become engaged.”
President Trump would tell’em to stick it. But he’d be in there trying to negotiate a peace...and probably earn a fourth Nobel Prize nomination.
A Joe Biden presidency would jump in feet first, without looking, on the assumption that “Biden Inc” could make some money out of the situation. Hunter would be on Air Force One immediately, flying over to do what Hunter is famous for...
Eisenhower said “Beware of the Military-Industrial Complex.”...............
Tanks are vulnerable to small, shoulder fired missiles nowadays. Even with air superiority, being in a tank is practically a death sentence..............
“Even with air superiority, being in a tank is practically a death sentence..............”
If that were true, then Israeli armor losses in action would be nearly 100%. Show me any major operation where that can be documented and I’ll agree with you.
True, and infantry is vulnerable to a bullet that costs $0.15. What is your point?
It all depends on what weapons the enemy has available in their arsenal. They are expensive.
If they have no tank-killer weapons, like the American TOW or Javelin, or the Russian Kornet, then you’re home for dinner.
Hezbollah used Kornets against Israeli tanks in Syria, destroying four and damaging 20 others. But nobody knows how they got them. Russia denies having sold them to Hezbollah and claims they were captured from Syrian depots........yeah riiiight...................
Those tanks hit land mines.
“Tanks are vulnerable to small, shoulder fired missiles nowadays.”
Ships are vulnerable to torpedos. Planes are vulnerable to missiles. Troops are vulnerable to machine guns. Hooray, war is obsolete!
“On July 14, 2014, the Trophy system successfully intercepted a 9M133 Kornet anti-tank missile fired from Gaza at an IDF tank.[28] Since the beginning of the Israeli Operation Protective Edge to July 20, 2014, at least four Israeli tanks of senior commanders were protected by the Trophy system in the Gaza Strip.[29] According to reports from the front, since the beginning of the ground operation, the system successfully intercepted five anti-tank missiles that were aimed at armored IDF vehicles in Gaza.[7] On July 22, 2014, according to a video by a Palestinian group, the Trophy system installed on a Merkava IV tank successfully intercepted an RPG-29 rocket fired at the tank.[citation needed] According to Debkafile, Hamas has tried to stop Israeli tanks with two kinds of advanced guided anti-tank missiles, the Russian Kornet-E, and the 9M113 Konkurs, but Trophy intercepted them successfully.[30]”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trophy_(countermeasure)
Sucks.
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