Posted on 07/20/2020 3:29:57 PM PDT by DouglasKC
Those who believe that George Floyd was "killed" by the cops need to understand something.
I found this little tidbit while looking up some COVID stats:
This Article explains how a technique called "proning" is helping COVID patients with their breathing problems.
What it is? It's simply putting a person on their stomach and turning their head to the side. In this way it allows them to breathe easier.
From the article:
Why does proning work? Flipping a patient on their stomach helps respiration because “oxygenation (getting more oxygen into the blood) is easier in the prone position," says Dr. Stewart. It's a function of anatomy, as the human body has more lung tissue in the back of the body than in the front. The coronavirus causes abnormal fluids and secretions to pool toward the back, where there's more lung tissue, and leads to greater interference with lung function. “When a patient is in the prone position, gravity helps the secretions move downward, so more of the ‘good’ lung is on top and therefore less affected,” Harry Peled, MD, a medical director in critical care at St. Jude Medical Center in Fullerton, California, tells Health.
Now ask yourself...what position was George Floyd in when he died? They had him on his stomach with his head turned and were keeping him there by holding him down. In other words, they were doing EXACTLY what they should have been doing when someone is claiming that they are having trouble breathing.
Yet another reason that I'm sure defense lawyers are going to point out. They took steps to SAVE his life by having him on his stomach. Not take it.
you are right. When we have someone in the hospital that can’t breathe we put them on their stomach unmonitored with a knee on their neck. That is the most ridiculous thing i have ever heard
Saint Floyd died of a drug overdose. You need to accept that.
So the article is wrong? Proning isn't a way to help patients who cannot breathe? Was not George Floyd in the optimal position for breathing? And by the way his knee was NOT in place that would interfere with breathing.
Not when he is over weight and has his hands cuffed behind him.
Did you read the results of the autopsy, or are you going to take BLM’s word for it?
Maybe he did.
Having a knee on his neck long after he had gone unconscious didn’t help.
You might even say it falls into the category of “Depraved Indifference”.
https://definitions.uslegal.com/d/depraved-indifference/
The coroner’s report says Floyd died of cardiopulmonary arrest following neck compression. That’s all that anyone has to accept.
Can we just stop with suggesting every reason under the sun why what that cop did was ok?
It makes us all look stupid.
The article mentions nothing about weight being a factor. Also it should make little difference where your hands or arms are. Here's why it works:
""And, what we do is we simply turn people over and they lie on their stomach. By doing that, the heart falls off the lungs and opens up a little bit more of the lung,"" It's all about being on your stomach.
Do you agree that the officer had George Floyd in an optimal position for someone who is having breathing difficulties?
You are (to my understanding) a medical authority. Do you claim expertise in policing, too?
The tox report came out and showed Saint Floyd was full to the gills with meth and fentanyl. He had heart problems, hypertension and the KungFlu. He also admitted to hooping that day.
Drugs killed him.
There are specific circumstances where putting someone on their stomach can be safe and helpful. However, pretty much every police training manual and instructor in the country states that once you have cuffs on a suspect, you are to immediately put them in a neutral (e.g. sitting) or standing position. This is for the safety of the suspect. This was a hard lesson learned after people with all sorts of medical conditions died after being left laying face-down while handcuffed.
In exactly zero situations are police instructed to place a knee on someone's neck after handcuffs are on. In 99% of cases, police are told to use a knee on the back of the shoulder DURING arrest while gaining control over the suspect. A knee on the neck gives ZERO additional mechanical advantage over having one on the neck, but has HUGE risks from a medical perspective. Regardless of where the knee was placed during arrest, it comes OFF the suspect once they are in handcuffs and the suspect is placed into a medically safe position.
Why? So they don't die in custody. Talk to police training instructors before posting stuff like this. They'll explain it better than I can.
And where does this say standing around doing nothing while a guy in obvious physical distress begs for his mother is helpful?
THAT’S the real problem. It’s not what they did. It’s what they didn’t do. And what they didn’t do was appear to give a damn.
Floyd died because he had way over the lethal dose of Fentanyl in his body, along with meth, and other drugs too numerous to mention.
Floyd would be alive today if he followed the Law.
The police officers did their job and took this bum out!
I hope the Cops all walk free. They should. End of Story.
WOW
The more that comes out ... the more it looks like he was going by the book and his coldness may have simply been that he didn't have an ounce of emotion in carrying out his job by his view of the book, and perhaps even perfectly.
You don't honestly believe that being face down in the street with your hands cuffed behind your back and a 190 lbs man's knee on your neck is an "optimal position" for breathing, right? That was intended sarcastically or as a joke?
And he said to the officers he couldn’t breathe because he had COVID. Before they did anything and he was resisting arrest. It’s recorded on the police body cams.
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