Posted on 07/11/2020 11:18:20 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Wildlife expert sez...”I’ve got good Gnus and I’ve got bad Gnus.
They wont let it go... We already know the truth
So many studies. So few answers.
Apparently a bunch of doctors did. Otherwise they wouldn't have these results.
This is a dumb article written by a dumb and very young and naive "reporter", Jenni Fink.
What's dumb about it? Do you think Jenni designed the study?
that’s how I see it.....
And you see it correctly!!!
If you read it closely the mortality does not decrease. There are more side effects. This is a hit piece
COVID-19 never killed anybody
by Ted Noel MD July 7, 2020 in Healthcare, Opinions
If all you get is the Wuhan Flu, you may get a bit sick, but you won’t even need to go to the hospital. You’ll get over it. That’s because you don’t get a “Cytokine Storm.”
In plain English, CS is a different disease process. It’s an uncontrolled release of signaling molecules that engage the immune system at ludicrous speed. A number of different infections can trigger it. An infection is needed before the Storm can start, but the Storm is a different process.
Once it’s underway, it drives the train. We know that the risk of dying from CS following COVID-19 in Florida if you are under age 25 is 0.02%, but if you are over 85, it’s 24.5% (FL Dept. of Health as of July 6).
That 1,225x difference in risk proves that something else is in play. The infection is necessary, but it’s not sufficient. CS requires something more than just infection such as COVID-19, SARS, or H5N1 flu.
In general, age and infirmity are correlated with bad outcomes, but we don’t know in any detail what factor within those categories is needed. What we do know is that the interventions that work don’t have all that much to do with antiviral effects.
Multiple studies have shown that hydroxychloroquine works to reduce severity and duration of the infection complex (COVID + CS) if given in the earlier stages of the disease. We also know that HCQ has both antiviral and immune modulating effects. Which of its effects is important with COVID-19 is not entirely clear.
But as we look further, studies have shown that dexamethasone, a common, inexpensive steroid, has beneficial effects, most likely by reducing CS. And new reports indicate that early administration of budesonide, an inhaled steroid that only gets to the lungs, can rapidly reverse the onset of CS.
The common feature of these treatments is an anti-inflammatory effect. HCQ is a mild anti-inflammatory, inhaled budesonide works the same way in the lung, and dexamethasone is a more potent systemic anti-inflammatory.
If we add suggestive data that non-steroidal anti-inflammatories may reduce inflammatory symptoms of respiratory virus infections, we start to see a strongly suggestive picture that CS is the major culprit.
When we look at drugs with antiviral effects, the picture isn’t so clear. A search of PubMed reveals no strong candidates for therapy. Lay news reports have remdesivir reducing hospital stays, but detailed studies are still in the pipeline.
In short, antivirals don’t seem to be all that useful in advanced COVID-19 cases. At the same time, viral load on admission does not seem to match outcome. - But viral load does match inflammatory markers in critically ill patients.
Putting the viral load data together doesn’t tell us much. That suggests that antiviral therapy isn’t likely to be terribly helpful in the critically ill patient. And that seems to be what we’re seeing. - The disease that kills people is CS, not COVID-19.
https://noqreport.com/2020/07/07/covid-19-never-killed-anybody/
It doesn’t matter if hydroxychoroquine and Zinc is the answer. They’ve made in impossible to get it prescribed. Next to impossible to get your prescription filled.
thanks for that- interesting read-
this is a sad story....he was an idiot..now he is dead
he had a quirk in his body and Covid killed him
in the bham metro area:
Marcus Aurelius10:04p, 7/10/20AG
Have 29 y/o teetering on vent sick as hell. Plus numerous 30-50 y/os. Community spread.
RE: There’s some evidence that anti-inflamatories such as dexamethasone, and budesonide and such, corticosteriods, can be helpful both when in early stages and in later stages when in ICU
In his most recent interview. Dr. ZELENKO has also said that in later stages of CoVid-19, he is administering anti-inflammatories.
He continues to strongly advocate use of his HCQ+AZITHROMYCIN +ZINC cocktail in the early stages of the disease to prevent hospitalizations.
from another VERFIED texags dr
“This far, I’ve seen two patients <40 die, 5 get intubated and 15 sick enough to get monitored in the unit. Of those 15, six had no readily apparent risk factors (including one who died) and 9 did (usually obesity and/or diabetes).
To answer your question on a macro level though, your risk as a truly healthy young adult is very small. The caution I use there is about half of that group that perceives themselves as young and healthy actually have a health risk factor, either undiagnosed or ignored in their calculation. For instance, there’s a TON of undiagnosed hypertension in the 35-40 age group.”
The study they first put out on Remdesivir showed that it was virtually ineffective. That is not what the media reported however. I wouldn’t be surprised if that drug out and right killed people.
We have an adequate treatment plan. Can we get on with life
Best post I have seen in a long time.
:)
yeah, i was just wondering about early use of budesonide- one doc claims it must be used early to prevent having to go to hospital, saying ‘it doesn’t make sense to wait till they are in critical condition to treat them’ or something like that- wondering if HCQ Zinc and budesonide at same time might be effective or not- probably not necessary since HCQ zinc work so well-
Apparently a bunch of doctors did. Otherwise they wouldn't have these results.
Your second sentence doesn't follow from your first sentence.
Regardless, the best bang for the buck using research dollars TO SAVE LIVES, would be further studies using HCQ with azithromycin and zinc early on, when symptoms are still manageable.
That's not what they tried in this study.
They are costing us lives.
Her Twitter timeline would be the envy of a dumb blonde.
I’m calling it “Political Medicine”.
agree
I don’t understand the combining either. Maybe time to go back and use lab animals...instead of making people guinea pigs.
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