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Corona Virus Daily Thread #52 COVID-19 5/12/2020
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Posted on 05/12/2020 5:35:05 PM PDT by RaceBannon

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Corona Virus Daily Thread #52 COVID-19 5/12/2020


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: coronavirus; covid19; plague; tyranny
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I saw Hogan was not planning to open MARYLAND schools till winter. An Annapolis article showed January 2021 as it is part of stage 3.


21 posted on 05/13/2020 4:43:22 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: RaceBannon

Thanks for the new thread, RB!

******

Case counts US - 1.370 million cases, 82,327 fatalities as of May 13, 2020, 5:30 am (FluTrackers)

Alabama: 435
Alaska: 10
Arizona: 562
Arkansas: 95
California: 2,882
Colorado: 1,009
Connecticut: 3,041
Delaware: 237
District of Columbia: 336
Florida: 1,779
Georgia: 1,494
Guam: 5
Hawaii: 17
Idaho: 69
Illinois: 3,601
Indiana: 1,578
Iowa: 289
Kansas: 180
Kentucky: 321
Louisiana: 2,347
Maine: 65
Maryland: 1,756
Massachusetts: 5,141
Michigan: 4,674
Minnesota: 614
Mississippi: 457
Missouri: 531
Montana: 16
Navajo Nation: 102
Nebraska: 103
Nevada: 321
New Hampshire: 142
New Jersey: 9,508
New Mexico: 219
New York: 27,284
North Carolina: 600
North Dakota: 38
Northern Marianas Islands: 2
Ohio: 1,436
Oklahoma: 278
Oregon: 130
Puerto Rico: 115
Pennsylvania: 3,806
Rhode Island: 444
South Carolina: 355
South Dakota: 39
Tennessee: 265
Texas: 1,133
US Virgin Islands: 6
Utah: 73
Vermont: 53
Virginia: 891
Washington: 962
West Virginia: 57
Wisconsin: 418
Wyoming: 7

Total 82,328

https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/-2019-ncov-new-coronavirus/united-states-2019-ncov/826435-case-counts-us-1-370-million-cases-82-327-fatalities-as-of-may-13-2020?p=860323#post860323


22 posted on 05/13/2020 4:58:18 AM PDT by LilFarmer
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To: LilFarmer

I think this may have been posted on the last thread, but here’s a positive HCQ study from NY:

Hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin plus zinc vs hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin alone: outcomes in hospitalized COVID-19 patients

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.05.02.20080036v1.full.pdf


23 posted on 05/13/2020 5:03:00 AM PDT by LilFarmer
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To: LilFarmer

Looks like little rural Mason Co., TX (pop. 4000) cases have been stopped at 28 as of Friday. All 28 from one idiot mayor who thought he was above the stay home orders and went on vacation to the beach and brought it back. So many people affected by one lousy person. Wonder if he learned a lesson or not. He might as well be that idiot Spring Break guy in Florida.


24 posted on 05/13/2020 5:44:50 AM PDT by bgill (Idiots. CDC site doesn't recommend wearing a mask to protect from COVID-19)
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To: RaceBannon

I merely added a genesis to your excellent chronology. ;-)

Thank you for the new thread.


25 posted on 05/13/2020 6:16:52 AM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: Jane Long

people roaming around at night as ghosts screaming in India

Ashok Mahapatra
May 5 at 1:30 PM ·
Latest tactics adopted to keep people indoors in night.

https://www.facebook.com/drakmahapatra/posts/2974873999215164


26 posted on 05/13/2020 6:50:50 AM PDT by RummyChick ( Yeah, it's Daily Mail. So what.)
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To: RaceBannon

What’s the bad news? - Coronavirus May Be About to Kill Network TV - https://www.frontpagemag.com/point/2020/05/coronavirus-may-be-about-kill-network-tv-daniel-greenfield/


27 posted on 05/13/2020 7:32:08 AM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: RightGeek

Perfect example, Faux News’ Martha MacCallum just said millions should have been tested on day one in the US.


28 posted on 05/13/2020 8:10:52 AM PDT by bgill (Idiots. CDC site doesn't recommend wearing a mask to protect from COVID-19)
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To: bgill

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-8312771/Male-coronavirus-patients-low-testosterone-levels-likely-die-COVID-19.html


29 posted on 05/13/2020 8:22:37 AM PDT by RummyChick ( Yeah, it's Daily Mail. So what.)
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To: RaceBannon

Thanks for continuing these threads.

My favorite “apples to apples” comparison—today’s update:

Sweden—147 deaths
Czech Republic—1 death

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

...nothing to see here... :-(


30 posted on 05/13/2020 8:26:07 AM PDT by cgbg (New poll: post elderly voters like Biden's experience as Wilson's VP fighting the Spanish Flu.)
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To: cgbg

FNC - We’re reviewing cutting Chinese student visas. How about we cut them to zero. Same with work visas. We need to get ourselves out from under communist control with medical supplies and general manufacturing.


31 posted on 05/13/2020 9:09:26 AM PDT by bgill (Idiots. CDC site doesn't recommend wearing a mask to protect from COVID-19)
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To: RummyChick

Dr. John Campbell - today’s video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fxw3nTZYlA

We knew this but this is backing it up.

Studies of Vit. D proving more and more how helpful it is against CV. JoAnn E. Manson, MD, DrPH Prof at Harvard Medical - https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/930152?src=soc_tw_share

“Evidence of patients with respiratory infections tend to have lower blood levels of 25-hydroxy-vitamin D” (that’s the blood test for Vit D). They are seeing this in CV cases.

“Eightfold higher risk of having severe COVID illness among those who entered with vitamin D deficiency compared to those who had sufficient vitamin D.”


32 posted on 05/13/2020 9:47:55 AM PDT by bgill (Idiots. CDC site doesn't recommend wearing a mask to protect from COVID-19)
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This comment kind of got lost at the end of the last thread, so for anyone who missed it, I’m reposting it here.

Here’s something just posted on Facebook by Bill Gertz (Mods, if it is not OK to post this, please delete):

It’s war. Today I had a fascinating meeting — both physical in an office in Alexandria and two by video conference — with five retired Army medical doctors, two of whom were White House presidential doctors and two who worked at the U.S. Army Medical Research and Development Command, aka Fort Detrick, the one that specializes in biological warfare defenses.

All the doctors but one are in private practice now and are steeped in the coronavirus pandemic.

So, some interesting take aways from my meeting.

These doctors treating patients for the disease still do not know a lot about the Wuhan pneumonia. But one thing that is changing is that the disease is about to get officially re-categorized from a mainly respiratory affliction to an inflammatory malady or a combination of both. The reason is the blood coagulation issue that is cropping up as key characteristic. This is causing blood clotting that is killing people in addition to the lung damage and immune over-response that causes multiple organ damage or failure.

One doctor said this inflammatory disease aspect is like the opposite of Ebola, a hemorrhagic disease that kills by causing massive bleeding. Covid is killing through blood clots or blood coagulation. The latest treatment tests are now trying a combination of the anti-viral drug remdesivir plus an anti-inflammatory drug.

Second, the way out of the virus crisis is looking, well, not good. The people leading the response in WH NIH, and CDC are flying blind while claiming to be committed to following the data. The doctors say the data has been wrong on all fronts so claims that everything is being done on a “science-based” approach to the response is not accurate.

The White House Task Force is adamantly opposed to the so-called Swedish model of seeking to defeat the virus through herd immunity. Fauci, et. al are not allowing any discussion of Sweden’s less stringent, non-lockdown approach.

I asked the doctors of the three routes to virus defeat — herd immunity, therapy/treatment and vaccine — what is the best?

Answer: all three. But currently we’re only doing two! Therapy and vaccine. And most of the vaccine work being done is going to be to produce a vaccine like the flu vaccine, which is iffy at best for preventing the disease. One ex-military doctor said there needs to be a vaccine similar to smallpox that includes live virus. That is going to be way off. Another doctor said vaccines are coming along and that the Big Pharma working on it claim they are prepared, once approved, to produce 100 million doses by September and 300 million doses by January.

I briefed the doctors on the Chinese mishandling and my new booklet How China’s Communist Party Made the World Sick and it was very well received.

All the doctors agreed with me that unless original virus samples are obtained directly from China, it will be very difficult to find the origin and craft remedies to defeat the virus. China’s Wuhan Institute of Virology initially promised to provide original virus samples from those infected in December but then reneged and refused.

The doctors had no insights but generally ascribed to the current official thinking on the two origin theories: (a) naturally occurring spread from the wet market in Wuhan, or (b) an accidental and uncontained infection from a Wuhan lab leading to outbreak.

The Fort Detrick doctors noted that they had responded to virus infections at their P-4 labs in the past and appropriate action was taken to prevent larger infections. China through incompetence did not handle a laboratory infection and we’re paying the price now.

This is my military-grade mask that are sold at the Pentagon. I dislike having to wear a mask and object to being forced to do so in stores. But if I’m going to wear one, it might as well be miltiary-grade and camo to boot.

The mask comes in military-specific variants. The Navy version comes with a mini-AN/SPY-1 phased array radar and is known as the Aegis mask; the Air Force one is equipped with a aerial refueling capability; the Army mask comes with a mud filter and the Marines...nails. Something to chew on.

600 posted on 5/12/2020, 7:33:45 PM by firebrand


33 posted on 05/13/2020 10:10:34 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: firebrand

The comments following post 600 were interesting also.


34 posted on 05/13/2020 10:11:26 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: firebrand

While the WH is not in favor of “herd immunity”, the reality is that many states will be reasonably open in the next month or so (granted, no large public events).

Sometimes in the fog of war you are following a strategy that you don’t think is your strategy. ;-)


35 posted on 05/13/2020 10:21:07 AM PDT by cgbg (New poll: post elderly voters like Biden's experience as Wilson's VP fighting the Spanish Flu.)
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To: cgbg

The phrase “herd immunity” has been used traditionally in the context of vaccines. I.e., if enough people get vaccinated, there is herd immunity, like we have with our childhood vaccines.

This is the first time it has been appropriated by those who want the disease to be let loose to run through the population, thereby creating a new kind of herd immunity, that caused by letting the weakest people die.

Even the slightest relaxing of the recommendations does that, but we have to do some kind of compromise. The argument is about how much. There’s too much selfishness coming into the equation right now, not concern for the country and the economy but just a plain old desire to go out and have fun. Well, usually disguised as a respect for the Bill of Rights but still.


36 posted on 05/13/2020 11:12:30 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: RummyChick

Obesity is also a cause of low T. Wonder if there’s a connection.


37 posted on 05/13/2020 11:28:42 AM PDT by LilFarmer
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To: firebrand

“The phrase “herd immunity” has been used traditionally in the context of vaccines. “

You hit it on the nose. I wonder if they want try the new meaning of herd immunity with Ebola.


38 posted on 05/13/2020 12:40:47 PM PDT by DEPcom
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To: Jane Long

when you fist asked me about the list, there were several other names who made posts, I only remembered your name.

:)


39 posted on 05/13/2020 12:46:01 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for)
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To: RaceBannon

march 27 china guy thinking he was well has infected new people leading to China testing 11 million people

https://twitter.com/MiaFarrow/status/1260575394211737602


40 posted on 05/13/2020 1:16:22 PM PDT by RummyChick ( Yeah, it's Daily Mail. So what.)
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