Posted on 04/18/2020 7:34:48 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Major hospitals in New York, Louisiana and other areas hit hardest by the coronavirus outbreak are routinely using hydroxychloroquine on patients hospitalized with COVID-19, though robust evidence on whether it works is weeks, if not months, away.Hydroxychloroquine is a treatment for malaria and autoimmune diseases in use since the 1950’s. The related drug chloroquine has been in use even longer, but is considered to be less safe. The drugs can have serious side effects, including vision loss, heart problems or even death, if used incorrectly. Below are examples of how some hospitals are using the therapy:
NORTHWELL HEALTH, NEW YORK
The 23-hospital healthcare system began in late March to use hydroxychloroquine routinely in patients admitted with the sometimes deadly respiratory illness caused by the virus, according to Dr. Kevin Tracey, chief executive of Northwell’s research arm. This was based on preliminary data that “it may be beneficial,” said Chief Pharmacy Officer Onisis Stefas. Hydroxychloroquine is given to patients who have “really no other options,” and have not qualified for clinical trials of other potential coronavirus treatments, he said. Northwell also allows doctors to prescribe it in conjunction with the antibiotic azithromycin on a case by case basis, but that is not standard of care.
NYU LANGONE HEALTH, NEW YORK
NYU has been giving the drug to patients since early March, according to Dr. Michael Belmont, a rheumatologist. Some doctors at NYU are also prescribing azithromycin in combination with hydroxychloroquine, although Belmont said the medical literature he has seen is “insufficient to draw an inference that the combination is especially effective.”
UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA, LOS ANGELES MEDICAL CENTER
UCLA has been advising doctors since mid-March to consider hydroxychloroquine for seriously ill COVID-19 patients. “Our recommendation is based on limiting usage, allowing it as a Hail Mary-type treatment for patients
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If I read Dr. Raoult's study right and Dr. Vladimir Zelenko's own treatment for his now, close to 1,000 COvid-19 patients, the UCLA administration of HCQ is NOT the best way to use it.
The most effective usage is for it to be administered within 3 days of Covid-19 symptom manifestation. Doing this relieves symptoms and helps the patient recover within 5 to 6 days.
UCLA is giving it to the severely ill ( maybe on ventilators ). HCQ's results for this stage is MIXED.
From the above article, this seems to be the right way to use HCQ:
OCHSNER MEDICAL CENTER, LOUISIANA
Louisiana’s largest hospital system is prescribing hydroxychloroquine widely, according to its chief medical officer, Dr Robert Hart. “We have been using this from pretty early in the outbreak to see if this helps,” he said.
What if the patient requests it be administered?
Not surprising. Doctors and hospitals differ in professional opinion all the time.
Gee, really? So 330 million people, that have 330 million different physical and health-related different ailments, require different drug combinations? Hard to believe...
Is the Z-pack (zithromax) being administered with it? If not, then hydroxychloroquine won’t be as effective.
Fake News. No mention of zinc.
Try to by some zinc at your local CVS....
Everyone’s a doctor these days. Idiocracy was a documentary, “Cause it’s got electrolytes.”
RE: Zithromax and Zinc with HCQ
Any good doctor worth his salt would actually be talking to doctors who have SUCCESSFULLY used it and try replicating the successful protocol instead of experimenting on his own.
I am not sure how many doctors who use HCQ ever even bothered to contact Dr. Vladimir Zelenko to exchange notes with him. Dr. Zlenko has already successfully used it on nearly a thousand patients.
Other Doctors they can contact who have used it successfully are: Dr. William Grace ( also NY ), Dr. Stephen Smith of NJ and Dr. Muhammad Alam at Plainview Hospital, Long Island.
But...but...that’s all anecdotal
These are POLITICAL policies.
You are CORRECT!
"The most effective usage is for it to be administered within 3 days of Covid-19 symptom manifestation. Doing this relieves symptoms and helps the patient recover within 5 to 6 days."
I heard it was the Zinc that made it work. But, they are using the combination of all three now here locally, and they say they are getting good results.
I’ll keep posting this as long as these articles appear.
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Dr. Zelenko’s approach is to provide treatment to people so that they don’t have to be put on ventilators. His out-patient treatment regimen is as follows:
1. Hydroxychloroquine 200mg twice a day for 5 days
2. Azithromycin 500mg once a day for 5 days
3. Zinc sulfate 220mg once a day for 5 days
How can we be midway through April, more than a month after multiple states closed their schools, and we don’t have several complete double-blind studies with random assignment that we can use to evaluate this?
The day we shut NYC schools, they should have approved a formal protocol for testing the various treatments that were already under discussion. Treat everyone - no placebo - but threat them with a randomly assigned treatment said to have promise. We should have known weeks ago what works best, at a standard of proof that even Fauci would accept. Pathetic.
But there is no evidence of exogenous Zinc changing either the interstitial concentration of Zinc, the extracellular concentration of Zinc, of the intracellular concentration of Zinc. In fact it is improbable that anyone in the US could alter these values by taking exogenous Zinc in the absence of a Zinc Deficiency which is really unheard of in the US.
Yeah, EXPERIENCE ain’t robust enough.
“The related drug chloroquine has been in use even longer, but is considered to be less safe. The drugs can have serious side effects, including vision loss, heart problems or even death, if used incorrectly. Below are examples of how some hospitals are using the therapy:
“The related drug chloroquine has been in use even longer, but is considered to be less safe”
At first I said YES, finally they are telling the TRUTH and not conflating Hydroxychloroquin with chloroquine.
And THEN, in the very next sentence....
“The drugS can have serious side effects”, conflating Hydroxychloroquin with chloroquine.
Tomatoes, tomottoes, natural born citizen, citizen.
Ochsner is among the best in my opinion.
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