Corona Virus Daily Thread #44 COVID-19

various | 04-13-2020 | RaceBannon

[RaceBannon]

new thread starting 4-13-2020

[Fury]

“Coronavirus live updates: Germany to begin reopening economy next week as global cases surpass 2 million”

- see https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/15/coronavirus-live-updates.html

“New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo orders all people to wear face coverings in public”

- see https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/15/new-york-gov-cuomo-to-order-all-people-to-wear-masks-or-face-coverings-in-public.html

[RummyChick]

zinc is a lot easier to get than zinc picolinate

btw, I didnt heed the warning here ...probably by one guy..who would post that you need copper with it.

Some of my eyebrows on one side of my face started going grey. Weird...and may be from the zinc as per internet search. So I ordered some copper

[Trump Girl Kit Cat]

Chris this lockdown was to NOT overload our hospitals if we don’t get people out there this damn virus will come back as soon as they let us out!,We need herd immunity PERIOD!!!

[amorphous]

Yeah, zinc without a little copper, now and then, is dangerous. Zinc depletes copper from your system. Easy on the copper too.

[amorphous]

Many fewer dust particles visible in the sunlight streaming through our windows this morning - although some.

[RummyChick]

I am not big on taking supplements due to issues they can cause with liver and the fact that I have so many wacky things wrong with me..like low LDH and thalessemia..and the fact that supplements are so unregulated.

But when I have been out of quarantine i start taking them for the first 7 days just in case.

I bought the version that is

Copper Bisglycinate

because I dont want premature gray hair or eyebrows

In searching I have found some scientific evidence that Korean Ginseng can help with cytokine storm so will probably buy some of that just in case

[PA Engineer]

Sharing some interesting news from my wife's practice. First, EPIC did a software upgrade early this morning and erased all COVID-19 (red letter) warning from the patient files. Second, ID came by because some health system administrators wanted infected to be seen outpatient in the practice office. They went ballistic. Waiting to hear more about the fallout from this one. I wish I ate popcorn.

When you promote administrators who were already incompetent, don't expect them to become anymore competent during an emergency that requires systems thinking.

[PA Engineer]

Thanks you. I found another source. The nutricost one shocked me. We get many of our project metabolites from them. They are made in the USA (whatever that means).

[RummyChick]

Drudge has been linking a lot to the Daily Star..interesting headline...comes from scientists in Canada. dont know if they are chinese. chinese do eat dogs

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/coronavirus-spread-humans-dogs-not-21867728

[RummyChick]

there are some Doctors that have been promoting it’s use..such as those at Texags site.

There has been a big run on it.

I hadn’t heard of that brand but will put it on my list since I am skeptical of some companies like you see on Amazon.

[amorphous]

This is the one I take:

Swanson Copper Antioxidant Immune System Red Blood Cell Support Mineral Supplement (Copper chelate) 2 mg

If you cook with "real" copper utensils, you probably don't need to worry about adding a copper supplement (2 mg is nothing) - or you could just suck on pre 1964 Pennies - but that could be habit forming, and you might swallow one. To be a child again! ;)

What supplements do you take? PM me if don't wish to discuss in the open.

[PA Engineer]

We use Jarrow and Nutricost for our work.

[RummyChick]

btw Nutricost does carry the Panax Ginseng and Korean Red Ginseng..so anyone interested in cytokine storm should look at the research articles on it.

[chris37]

“Chris this lockdown was to NOT overload our hospitals”

Yes, that is true, and that goal has been achieved as far as I can see at this time.

I am not opposed to a restart. I may think it’s too early, but that doesn’t really matter. We cannot continue like this forever. I say give it a go when your ready, Mr. President.

It’s either going to work, or it’s not, but I am going to pray that it works, because I want my country to succeed and prosper.

[RummyChick]

Right now when I go out of quarantine I come back in and do my sick protocol

Turmeric, zicam, whiskey with manuka honey, hydrogen peroxide in ears, vitamin A, liposomal C...which is what cured me when the asians coughed all over me in March.

That’s my mainstay. then I have a bunch of other stuff on hand for when I get WUHAN or think I have wuhan.

Naomi Campbell did a breakdown of what she takes. She has a lot of stuff. I can’t deal with all of that on a daily basis.

The problem with Vitamin C for me is that I already have low LDH..and Vitamin C can make it worse. So I don’t do Vitamin C except for a sickness routine

Vitamin D is controversial. I saw one Dr say take it until you get sick because of possible cytokine storm issues. There are studies backing up that idea

[RummyChick]

back when this was starting Korea was talking about the Red Ginseng. Of course, we know they got hit by Wuhan Flu

How much good this really does for cytokine storm from Wuhan still unknown. But I am buying some based on various studies. A lot of the studies I have looked at dealt with chemotherapy and cytokine issues.

http://www.businesskorea.co.kr/news/articleView.html?idxno=41325

Known for Enhancing Protection against Viral Infections
Red Ginseng Enjoying Soaring Popularity as Immune System Booster against Coronavirus

[Fury]

"When you promote administrators who were already incompetent, don't expect them to become anymore competent during an emergency that requires systems thinking."

Sound observations in most professions. I have seen some high-level executives at one of the sites we support essentially "freeze" and unable to process the information at hand. Few updates, risk averse to the point of absurdity, etc.

I don't doubt that lawyers are involved in some of the risk-averse decision making.

[DEPcom]

Looks like the calculation are holding.

[amorphous]

The recommended daily dietary allowance of copper for adults ranges from 900 to 1,300 micrograms (mcg).

Article on: What Are the Dangers of Chelated Copper Supplements?

https://www.livestrong.com/article/562149-what-are-the-dangers-of-chelated-copper-supplements/

My regimen:

1 gram of C now, before 500 Corona mg
5,000 of D3+K3
Zinc Picolinate 50mg +2mg Copper 1 - 2 times week
NAC
Potassium+Iodine
Magnesium
Probiotic
CoQ10
Astaxanthin
And GNC Mega Men, I call that my "He-Man" vitamin. Which also has 2mg of copper, and many other vit. and minerals.

Lately, I've been making 1 - 2 PPE wearing trips into town, a week.

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

Priot to our idiot governor's stay-at-home order (Maryland), curbside pickup was allowed for non-essential businesses. You might not have been allowed INSIDE BB&B or Home Depot, but you could order it in advance (phone it in, go online, whatever), then drive the pickup order and get your item curbside outside the store. The idiot stay-at-home order banned even that.

You know, your rhetoric has a familiar ring to it, if I do say so myself.