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Corona Virus Daily Thread #44 COVID-19
various | 04-13-2020 | RaceBannon

Posted on 04/13/2020 2:28:12 PM PDT by RaceBannon

new thread starting 4-13-2020


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Health/Medicine; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: coronavirus; covid19; wuhanflu
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To: mrsmith

For protecting the vulnerable, I’d say that a reliable treatment and/ or prevention would go pretty far in that direction.

If I came down with it and knew that I could go to the hospital and receive X,Y, or Z to spare me a trip to suffocate to death land, I think I’d be able to be more confident about returning to a normal existence.

I hope we’re able to get there, but I don’t really know, I’ve seen too many videos now about how this was engineered in a lab. There’s no telling what these evil bastards in China loosed on us, but I hope they get the payback they deserve.


461 posted on 04/14/2020 10:57:16 PM PDT by chris37 (Coronavirus wasn't born in a bowl of bat soup.)
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To: chris37

Well now Trump stated awhile ago that the Chinese are a great people. Everyone knows their generally slightly racist, but they are at least polite about it. Lol. That racism probably left over from the long isolation period. But the problem therein lies in the fact that if just 30 % of Chinese are good souls, we are talking what, over 400 million. Lol. That would be a lot of good sent to hell. We would prefer some internal house arrests of those who conducted their biowar. That would at least be a start in the right direction.


462 posted on 04/14/2020 11:07:41 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: justa-hairyape

Yep. Problem is they aren’t letting anyone in, and they’re still playing around with bugs in their labs.

If we keep letting them do this, they are going to keep doing this.


463 posted on 04/14/2020 11:20:45 PM PDT by chris37 (Coronavirus wasn't born in a bowl of bat soup.)
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To: Black Agnes

Nice. Did not think we had ACE2 in the feet. lol.


464 posted on 04/14/2020 11:23:10 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: blueplum

https://twitter.com/BillGates/status/1250292126643941376

“Halting funding for the World Health Organization during a world health crisis is as dangerous as it sounds. Their work is slowing the spread of COVID-19 and if that work is stopped no other organization can replace them. The world needs @WHO now more than ever.”

I checked to make sure this is Bill Gate’s real account.


465 posted on 04/14/2020 11:24:38 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts (M / F) : Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: chris37

Yeah well knowing the Chinese like I know the Chinese, they would likely put a military run biolab inside a front corporation building. Only military in and they dress as business people. Very difficult to spot. I guess rods from god could pancake it anyway.


466 posted on 04/14/2020 11:33:46 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: PA Engineer; All
Dr. Berry discussing TOFI

TOFI: Skinny AND Unhealthy?? (Hidden Clues 2020)
467 posted on 04/14/2020 11:36:04 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: mrsmith

Yeah right. The money spent on the Who actually has caused more deaths. I had to be the one to tell an Italian Doctor that it was airborne and borderline aerosolized. Who said not airborne at the time. Lots of Italian medical people died because of money and power abused by the Who. And that’s just one state.


468 posted on 04/14/2020 11:38:40 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: justa-hairyape

More idiocy...
https://medcitynews.com/2020/04/furor-erupts-billions-going-to-hospitals-based-on-medicare-billings-not-covid-19/?rf=1

“... HHS confirmed Friday it would give hospitals and doctors money according to their historical share of revenue from the Medicare program for seniors — not according to their coronavirus burden.”


469 posted on 04/14/2020 11:52:04 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts (M / F) : Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: mrsmith
I keep hearing people claim the virus was much more widespread than what has been observed. I have not seen any studies to support the claim.

There is interesting work conducted by Trevor Bedford (first identified the virus in Washington State) who refutes the heard incidence based on phylogenetic.

Seattle Flu Study

I keep asking for data about the widespread infection. There simply is not.
470 posted on 04/14/2020 11:53:55 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: Black Agnes
We were prepared for a long term change. I had not anticipated that we would need more PPE then we stocked because of my wife's exposure and the failure of her health system to plan or stockpile adequate supplies.

That will never happen again. As far as one incompetent administrator taking my wife to task for wearing proper PPE, a simple handover over of our lawyers card had them scurrying away.

There is a special hell brewing for health systems that have not kept up with the recent COVID-19 OSHA updates. Even cleaning crews are required to have proper PPE now.
471 posted on 04/15/2020 12:04:38 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: PA Engineer

I don’t think that data is very significant.
Lots of data shows the virus is not fatal for effectively ALL of the healthy.
I see no reason for people to argue over that.

What matters for re-opening the economy is protecting those who ARE vulnerable to terrible outcomes from this virus.
I see no reason for people to argue over that.
I need to see that is in any plan to reopen.

Flubros and doomsters can both claim they were right. In some subgroup[s they were.


472 posted on 04/15/2020 12:08:46 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts (M / F) : Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: mrsmith
Lots of data shows the virus is not fatal for effectively ALL of the healthy.

How do you define healthy? What percentage of the population is healthy?
473 posted on 04/15/2020 12:10:45 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: mrsmith

P.S. I am neither Flubro or doomster. The study was the best there was. The data was not significant? Please explain.


474 posted on 04/15/2020 12:16:44 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: PA Engineer

“Healthy”: with a 99.9% chance of surviving the virus.
A fair question nonetheless as it’s not just the easily identifiable group of the elderly that is at severe risk from this virus.

Nothing else matters besides protecting the “at risk” as far as re-opening the economy goes. Which is the phase we’re at now.

And the idea that ‘herd immunity” has been achieved anywhere is beyond silly. Although that may be attainable in sub-groups... something to consider.

Yeah, but “loose” “at risk” people are a concern. I suspect we’ll just have to depend on their families to protect them.

(I don’t think any regular on this thread is either a flubro or doomster)


475 posted on 04/15/2020 12:50:26 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts (M / F) : Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: mrsmith
A fair question nonetheless as it’s not just the easily identifiable group of the elderly that is at severe risk from this virus.

My numbers (raised higher by others) is 46% suffering metabolic syndrome. Glycated hemoglobin is the leading risk factor for negative outcomes.

How would you deal with that percentage of people if the RO was allowed to increase again?
476 posted on 04/15/2020 12:59:49 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: PA Engineer

Don’t get tricky on me.

My ‘numbers’ is .2% fatality rate for people under 40, which the US can easily cut in half. Maybe even for those up to 60.

I admit those “at risk” who are not easily identifiable are a problem.
Perhaps their families can provide for their protection.


477 posted on 04/15/2020 1:07:43 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts (M / F) : Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: PA Engineer

Treatments US has come up with:
Care for “cytocline storm”, improved intubation protocols.
See a lot of consideration of coagulation and renal effects.

All very promising.

And the development of an RNA virus vaccine would have miraculous effects on human health.


478 posted on 04/15/2020 1:13:28 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts (M / F) : Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: PA Engineer

Our St. Louis area hospitals have formed a task force, and the Doctor leading it said today that they are doing “extended” use for PPE in order to be sure that they have enough for the “surge” period-expected in 2-3 weeks.

At present, they are using about half of the available ventilators. If the surge comes in at the top of the numbers, it looks to me like they won’t have enough.

Also looking at the map, they are not including a lot of areas like our county—which only has a critical care access facility with 25 beds. Mostly the ER just stabilizes and transports.

During regular flu season this is also an issue as sometimes they don’t have the beds. People have had to wait days for the transport.

Hoping your wife comes through it all ok. I liked that part about handing out a card from the lawyer.


479 posted on 04/15/2020 1:23:31 AM PDT by greeneyes ( Moderation In Pursuit of Justice is NO Virtue--LET FREEDOM RING)
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To: mrsmith
Heading to bed. At risk is anyone with HbA1c over 6.0.

Saliva testing is the next step. There will be no vaccine for the foreseeable future.

There still is no miracle treatment for those who have been intubated.

Check out Israel's numbers. They are getting a grip on treatment.

I'll post some of the protocol tomorrow.

Sleep well.
480 posted on 04/15/2020 1:25:49 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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