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Corona Virus Daily Thread #42

Posted on 04/09/2020 9:49:35 AM PDT by Mariner

Yesterday's thread here:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3833043/posts?page=1


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: 42; chinavirus; livethread
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To: PA Engineer
File this one under "Just the Flu."

National Guard uses Enterprise rental vans to pick up hundreds of dead bodies from New York City homes - as the city prepares to include suspected coronavirus cases in the death toll amid test shortage
501 posted on 04/10/2020 12:06:30 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: calenel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaN6NREprmw

Here’s a video to go with your numbers. Mass burial (temporary from where I have read on FR) of deceased on Hart Island, NY.

With them laying large sheets of plywood over the stacked coffins, I would presume that is true - temporary burials.


502 posted on 04/10/2020 12:42:01 AM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: 21twelve; PA Engineer; calenel

Hmm. Looking at google earth, it appears since 2007 the island has been used for mass burials with long trenches. Images from 2018 shows a trench with plywood sheets.

So now I’m not so sure this will be a temporary burial. On the youtube folks were saying this area is used for unclaimed dead - it is in/near The Bronx. I’m guessing it is cheaper for the city to bury them than the family.

In the video it shows lots of vertical white pipes. I’m guessing those are to vent the gases (methane?) from the decaying bodies.


503 posted on 04/10/2020 12:52:59 AM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: PA Engineer

Interesting article.

Imagine the NG, many of them young. “When we signed up - did you ever think we’d be doing this!?”

I like the racks in the refrigerated trucks - offering some form of dignity for the deceased as opposed to piled in a heap.

For sale - Enterprise Vans. Cheap! Local miles only.


504 posted on 04/10/2020 12:58:48 AM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: Black Agnes; amorphous

Considering Italy had ZERO cases of SARS, and no vaccine for SARS ever made it out of trials, I would take any claims that such a vaccine was widely deployed in Italy with a HUGE grain of salt. Are we to believe this same vaccine was also widely deployed in Spain? Clearly, there are a large number of people who want to cast doubt on ALL vaccines, and think vaccines are a huge global conspiracy.


505 posted on 04/10/2020 1:30:15 AM PDT by ETCM
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To: ETCM

“Considering Italy had ZERO cases of SARS, and no vaccine for SARS ever made it out of trials, I would take any claims that such a vaccine was widely deployed in Italy with a HUGE grain of salt. Are we to believe this same vaccine was also widely deployed in Spain? Clearly, there are a large number of people who want to cast doubt on ALL vaccines, and think vaccines are a huge global conspiracy.”

There was a particular FluBro that was touting this SARS vaccine theory as the reason for the high mortality rate in Italy. For some reason they stopped posting it when the death rates in France and Spain started being competitive with Italy. At least I don’t recall seeing them post it lately.


506 posted on 04/10/2020 2:23:17 AM PDT by calenel (Don't panic. Prepare and be vigilant. Join the war effort. On the human side.)
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To: gleeaikin

If you are suffering from allergies for 6+ months a year that is horrible.
My grandfather was a beekeeper, he swore by honey. You might want to give that a try. It should be as local to you as possible. None of my family are sufferers from allergies and I attribute it to the local honey we ingest.
A toasted peanut butter and honey sandwich is so good, even if it doesn’t help you it’s a tasty lunch.


507 posted on 04/10/2020 3:26:57 AM PDT by TermLimits4All (A next on the agenda, reelection of DJT.)
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To: All
Gov. Wolf orders all Pa. schools to remain closed for the rest of the academic year (4/8/20)
508 posted on 04/10/2020 3:36:42 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Wu Flu! (when I feel heavy metal) Wu Flu! (when I'm pins and I'm needles) Wu Flu!)
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Allegheny County reports 2 more COVID-19 deaths; state confirmed cases up nearly 2,000 (Pennsylvania, 4/9/20)
509 posted on 04/10/2020 3:43:59 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Wu Flu! (when I feel heavy metal) Wu Flu! (when I'm pins and I'm needles) Wu Flu!)
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PIAA officially cancels all spring high school sports in 2020 (Pennsylvania, 4/9/20)
510 posted on 04/10/2020 3:50:52 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Wu Flu! (when I feel heavy metal) Wu Flu! (when I'm pins and I'm needles) Wu Flu!)
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To: Mariner

I did a google search for Erythropoietin as a COVID-19 treatment yesterday and this was all i found, posted April 8. I wonder how much consideration EPO is being given.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/jmv.25839


511 posted on 04/10/2020 3:52:05 AM PDT by FreedomForce
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“JPMorgan now sees economy contracting by 40% in second quarter, and unemployment reaching 20%”

- see https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/09/jpmorgan-now-sees-economy-contracting-by-40percent-and-unemployment-reaching-20percent.html


512 posted on 04/10/2020 3:57:44 AM PDT by Fury
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Colleges buffeted by COVID-19 grow wary about fall admissions (Pennsylvania, 4/9/20)
513 posted on 04/10/2020 4:01:33 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Wu Flu! (when I feel heavy metal) Wu Flu! (when I'm pins and I'm needles) Wu Flu!)
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To: blueplum

Yeah, I posted that about the masks just out of interest, but I still personally believe something is better then nothing.


514 posted on 04/10/2020 5:07:00 AM PDT by LilFarmer ("Everything we do before a pandemic will seem alarmist. Everything we do after will seem inadequate")
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To: All

The stats of New York current as of 04/09:

Of the 7,067 deaths in New York since the first mortality on March 14:
61% were men, 39% were women
83% of the deaths were among those age 60 and older

No matter the age, COVID-19 is a serous illness for many people with underlying chronic disease
5,630 (80% (was 87%)) of those who died had at least one chronic disease, with the top three identified being:
Hypertension - 66% (was 64%)
Diabetes - 43%
Hyperlipidemia - 23% (was 21%)

- Source Data - see https://covid19tracker.health.ny.gov/views/NYS-COVID19-Tracker/NYSDOHCOVID-19Tracker-Fatalities?%3Aembed=yes&%3Atoolbar=no&%3Atabs=n

n.b. - see this post regarding COVID-19 and chronic disease - http://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3832668/posts?page=655#655


515 posted on 04/10/2020 5:14:12 AM PDT by Fury
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To: PA Engineer

“Statins Linked to Raised Risk of Type 2 Diabetes”

Keep ranting! I also think they’ve finally owned up to Statins and Cataracts.

And all one has to do is watch the videos on how the numbers were fudged for Statins. To paraphrase: The claim is something like “Statins reduce the risk of heart disease by 33%” - then you look at the study that ‘proves’ it, and you’ll see that for a large group of people 50 to 60 years old, that heart disease dropped from 1.2% to 0.8% over a 2-year period. In other words, from just over 1% to just under 1%. But Statin or not, your odds of NOT getting heart disease in that group, over those 2 years, was right about 99% either way.

...but then they had to include a statistically significant finding from that study. People in that study who developed diabetes went from something like 10% to 14% (I know these numbers aren’t right, but I’d have to watch the video again to get those numbers) - in other words, to achieve a 0.4% reduction in possible heart disease, one had to increase their risk of diabetes by 4.0%. So for each person who did not get heart disease, 10 people developed diabetes, due to Statins...so there’s certainly some risk with going on Statins. Nice to see it starting to get disclosed.


516 posted on 04/10/2020 5:26:40 AM PDT by BobL
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To: ETCM

“Clearly, there are a large number of people who want to cast doubt on ALL vaccines, and think vaccines are a huge global conspiracy.”

I ran into a FluBro on another thread who INSISTED that a vaccine could never be developed for this Coronavirus. He said, go read the papers for other Coronaviruses and you’ll see it’s just not possible.

I told him that dozens of companies throughout the world are working on vaccines right now and therefore I have two choices:

1) Take him at his word, without knowing a thing about him.
2) Spend a few hours looking up research work to decide for myself.

The problem with #2 is that there are literally thousands of people who have spent careers developing vaccines and, no-doubt, read all the research. They’ve obviously concluded that a vaccine is possible, or they wouldn’t be wasting their time on it. And I’m supposed to spend a few hours on it and become more qualified than those people?

I then said “You’re funny”.

He didn’t laugh.


517 posted on 04/10/2020 5:35:25 AM PDT by BobL
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To: blueplum; Black Agnes
mmmm...Fresh bread! Forget the scale - Covid-19 means we get to gain 19 pounds, because ever-so-slightly overweight is healthier than skinny. ;). At least that’s my story .

That's what my doctor has told me. For real.

It means you have some reserves left for it you get really sick.

518 posted on 04/10/2020 5:37:34 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: LilFarmer

“Yeah, I posted that about the masks just out of interest, but I still personally believe something is better then nothing.”

From a public health perspective, any mask is CLEARLY better than no mask, if only because they block coughs and sneezes from shooting out to others. From a personal health perspective, I also agree that anything that can stop particles of any size is better than nothing.


519 posted on 04/10/2020 5:38:54 AM PDT by BobL
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To: Jane Long
Thank you I think 😶 That is weird, since articles I found, confirmed what I thought Dr. Birx had said, about how the machines were already in the hospitals/clinics throughout the country, and they just had to plug in the new test component. Of course, since following up on this does NOT reflect poorly on Trump - they have no interest 🙄 Shakes head. Prayers up for a better day, everyday - Tatt
520 posted on 04/10/2020 5:42:21 AM PDT by thesearethetimes... (Had I brought Christ with me, the outcome would have been different. Dr.Eric Cunningham)
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